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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #90 on: December 22, 2018, 04:33:02 PM »
Note to self.
Remove the gas tank before cutting the floor above it.
somehow I keep forgetting that little step when I am planning.

Did get it turned around, and even sold the Mustang floor pans.

Looks like I won't be working Christmas Eve or Christmas. I could use the money, but I can use the time off more right now. Hoping to get a bit done on the Pinto, but have some stuff to do around the house also. I've got to get the rims/tires off the car for sure. Got to get the rims shipped next weekend.

Just got home from buying a pair of front rims/tires for $50. Not sure what the rims are, aluminum aftermarket. I need to look at them for markings. Kind of ugly, but for the price they were worth it. The tires may be too big, but for now they will work for rollers if nothing else. And,no, I didn't get the center covers. Keep repeating to myself, "$50". He was asking $100 originally, but came down recently. $100, no thanks. $50, sure.

Should be ordering the Speedway 11 inch disk brake kit next weekend. Need to take the new axles and the parts to a machine shop to be put together.

Found a T5 semi locally, but it is either buy it and nothing else right now, or get the brakes and axles so I can get this rolling asap. So rolling it is. The trans is near a town called Show Low, and the drive is a bit more than I trust the Subaru to do right now. Oh, that reminds me. I bought another cheap floor jack and some 1/2 inch drive metric deep sockets, so I can do the rear struts on that car. Yet something else that needs done more than the Pinto. :-(

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #91 on: December 29, 2018, 05:43:54 AM »
Finally just ordered the Speedway disk brake kit. And it's in stock.
Got the rear axle bearings, now I just need to get the backing plates and stuff and head to a machine shop. Might have to wait for my next payday for that.

I've got 4 days off, now through the first. I need to get some stuff going. Like getting the rims for Bill ready. And getting some of the left over stuff on CL or OfferUp. Or both.

Got some cleaning/sorting done in the work room, I can almost see my work bench. But I CAN get to it now. Couldn't before. Adding some length to it for Karen, she has started making vinyl signs on wood. And she is sanding and painting or staining the wood. So she needs a better place to do that than on top of the washing machine.

I'm starting to forget what all I have bought for this thing. I need to make a list.

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #92 on: December 29, 2018, 11:12:39 PM »
Have I mentioned that I am going to smooth out the firewall? Going to go with a heater/ac setup like this
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Slim-Line-Heater-Air-Conditioning-Unit,50710.html
Not totally set on this one, but for the price why not. I am not going to try to use the stock stuff. 
Why am I mentioning this? Because it should help with the 351W install. I hope.
Plus, I can learn to weld filling in these little non-structural holes.

I bought some exhaust manifolds today, although they look more like shorty headers. Paid $25 for them, so it is worth the shot. I am thinking about running the exhaust pipe like fender well headers, since I don't have fender wells. :-) If not, time to start saving for the Hooker 351W swap headers. I am really hoping I can make these work.

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #93 on: December 31, 2018, 12:23:19 AM »
And keeping on with the exhaust, I am supposed to be buying the below for $40 tomorrow (Monday) afternoon.
Just for the parts if nothing else it will be a good deal for me.
Seller has had it on Offer Up for a month, so not a good deal for others I guess.  8)
Couldn't get cats cheaper if I tried. And cutouts and an H pipe even!
 ;D

I have to get up a little early for me so I can gather up some old car batteries and an aluminum rim (that came with the 74) and take them to a place that buys that stuff, will almost pay for the exhaust part.

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #94 on: December 31, 2018, 02:56:06 AM »


I have to get up a little early for me so I can gather up some old car batteries and an aluminum rim (that came with the 74) and take them to a place that buys that stuff, will almost pay for the exhaust part.


Now that sounds like a deal!  Happy New Year, Russ!

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #95 on: December 31, 2018, 03:29:46 AM »
Thanks.
And to you too.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #96 on: January 02, 2019, 04:49:41 AM »
I think I need to get a 79 service manual. I really thought that will almost nothing being stock I didn't need one, but I am going to need to see what all emissions equipment I am going to need.
Got 2 cats now, but thinking I might have to do the charcoal cannister thing, among other stuff that I may not be thinking of. Car has to go through emissions testing here, and not sure if they will open the hood to look since it is so old.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #97 on: January 04, 2019, 04:09:22 AM »
 >:(
At myself.
This is what happens when you just assume.
Turns out I won't be able to use racing harnesses with the Miata seats. They are not useable with hi back seats, so even the stock Pinto seats wouldn't work. Unless I were to cut slots in them, which isn't going to happen.
Not sure yet what I will do, other than pretend it didn't happen and ignore it for now. Don't need seats right now. Probably have to buy other seats since I really think it is best to have the harness with the roll cage from what I have heard.

Just got home from work for the last time until Jan 14. Really hoping I can get my butt out of bed and get some stuff done. Don't have a good record recently of that happening. 
 :-X

Oh, I did order the cd rom version of the 79 manual. Really won't be much stock on the car, but maybe it will help a bit here and there.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #98 on: January 04, 2019, 05:46:22 AM »


Oh, I did order the cd rom version of the 79 manual. Really won't be much stock on the car, but maybe it will help a bit here and there.
 


Let's hope it helps, anyway!  Enjoy your time off and here's hoping you'll make lots of progress with the car!

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #99 on: January 04, 2019, 12:55:57 PM »

...  Just got home from work for the last time until Jan 14. Really hoping I can get my butt out of bed and get some stuff done. Don't have a good record recently of that happening.  ...


If you believe in self motivation here are a few (self) quotes to get you going:


Oct. 23rd
 
I've committed to my wife to get the  79 on the road by the end of March, unless something major (health, big expense with Subaru, etc) happens.
 
 
Nov.2nd
 
We don't have the room for all the stuff my wife will buy if I don't meet the end of March deadline. 

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #100 on: January 05, 2019, 05:59:29 PM »
Thanks. But the person who wrote those is a bit of an idiot.

Speaking of idiotic, what was I thinking when I bought the 15x10 rims? I took the 4 lug tires/rims off, there is no way that those huge things will fit. Good thing my final cost for those was $20.

Not doing so good, first the seats now the rims. Grrrr.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #101 on: January 05, 2019, 08:03:35 PM »
On a better note, we went out for a bit and when we got home my 5lug 11inch front disk brake kit was sitting by the door.
So now I need to get the old front suspension/brakes off, clean up and paint the subframe, and get the new stuff on. I don't want the car immobile for any longer than absolutely necessary.
Need to make sure my cordless impact wrench batteries (yes, I bought an extra) are charged and ready to go.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #102 on: January 06, 2019, 08:48:50 AM »
Sigh.
It's just after 7:30AM and I am awake. Fell asleep sitting on the couch about 8 last night. Not planned, but want to take advantage of the full day.
So, what's the problem, Russ?
It's WET outside! Rained overnight, and chance of more today I think.
No garage, no carport, no shelter at all over the Pinto. Or any of the other cars for that matter.
Hoping once the sun  shows up it isn't still raining.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #103 on: January 06, 2019, 02:27:45 PM »
Mother Nature does have a way of interfering with our best intentions, doesn't she?  Here's hoping it will clear up and you can get out there today!


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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #104 on: January 06, 2019, 03:35:50 PM »
I've been able to get about 3 hours worth of work in, in spurts.
 
Taking another break right now do to old man body.

Got about 1.5 hours in earlier, then it started raining. Worked out good actually, because I forgot to charge the batteries for the impact wrench/driver/whatever you call it. Thing doesn't work great when the battery isn't very full. I have to remember when it stops loosening stuff it's time for the other battery, instead of cussing it out like I was  doing earlier.
After the first battery recharged, I went back out. Finally got the driver's side suspension/brakes off. Learned a couple of things to remember when I go back out to do the passenger side.

Sky outside reminds me of back east when it is getting ready to snow. 20 degrees cooler and it might snow here. But it is supposed to be warming up back to near normal this week. Hope so, got a lot to do.

Oh, I HIGHLY recommend Mechanix (spelling?) brand gloves. I borrowed my work pair (haven't needed them there lately) just in case. I normally don't like wearing gloves at all, but it was a bit cool outside and very damp so I tried them. Very nice. If you are only handling things like wrenches or sockets there is no problem with grip. Grabbing something really small probably would be difficult. I'm going to have to buy a replacement pair as I may be keeping these.

Got about 2 good hours of sunlight left. Hoping I can get the other side off quicker than the first.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #105 on: January 06, 2019, 05:50:44 PM »
I am too old for this.

To quote my favorite tv Dr., "The pain, the pain!"

I got the passenger side off. Didn't go as smoothly as the other side, I ended up having to separate the upper control arm and ball joint as I couldn't get the control arm bolts off without lifting the control arm up some. Once I got it up, impact took them right off, but I couldn't break them loose otherwise. Can only get an open end wrench on them when they are in the assembled position and the driver's side came loose right away.

I was seriously thinking about trying our new plasma cutter, but I was worried I might not stop.

Hoping it warms up tomorrow, I need to sand and paint before I can start assembling the new front suspension and brakes.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #106 on: January 07, 2019, 03:45:55 PM »
Well, first of all I am getting tired of being about the only one with new posts showing up on the main page.
I'm really not a post whore.
 :o

But seriously, got some stuff done today. Got to go back out and clean up and cover up shortly, but I'm giving the Tylenol a chance to kick in first.

Got the front frame and cage painted. I still need to do the cross member.
Started out using my grinder with a cheap set of wire wheels/brushes. They actually worked pretty good. Better than I did. I got the driver's side cleaned up, and ran out of gas. So I just painted the rest. It doesn't look much different, but I will go back someday after it is all together and running and redo it. Someday.  :-[
I do need to wire wheel the cross memeber and didn't want to do it with wet paint in the area, so I will try to tackle that tomorrow.

I also got the lower tubular control arms painted. These are the Speedway brand, and come bare metal. You'd think they could paint or coat them and just charge a few dollars more.  I thought of powder coating them, but they come with the bushing installed, and they would look out of place with the other stuff painted, at least to me. That's another down the road thing I may do if I get rich.  I used VHT Rollbar and Chassis spray paint on everything. Probably about 5 coats on the frame/cage, and 4 on the arms. Should last a while.  ::)

Then after a break, (yes, lots of those) I went out intending to separate the trans from the engine. Well, after looking at it a bit I realised it would be a lot easier if I removed the wiring harnesses and stuff cluttering it all up just to get to the starter. Started looking at that and decided it wasn't worth trying to "save" it for selling, and besides I go to junk yards to buy harnesses, here's one in my lap.  8) So I got it off with only a few snips, well maybe 8-10. I only cut connectors off that I would never use anyway.
You can actually tell there is an engine there now.

I'm still going to try to sell the EFI stuff, upper and lower intakes, fuel rails and injectors. But being a 5.8L truck only deal it probably won't sell. But no big loss if it doesn't. I'll be one of "those" people on Craigslist who has it on there forever. And Offer Up as well.  ;D The 5.8 EFI upper intake is huge. No way it would fit in a Pinto without a scoop.

I'll get some pictures with our camera, I don't have any luck with my phone and this computer for some reason.

Tomorrow paint the crossmember, and maybe start on the new parts. Although I need to get the gas tank off, and the rear pulled. Start fitting the fuel cell and battery box. Have I mentioned that I am putting the battery in the inside of the car? I'm going to use the same battery we have now in the Subaru, a Bosche AGM type. Wasn't a lot more than the regular acid type. Be perfect for the Pinto. I was planning on putting it underneath with the fuel cell, but I just feel more comfortable with it inside the car. I'll still vent the box to the outside just in case.

Wow, it just hit me. I can't believe I am actually doing this! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

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Russ
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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #107 on: January 08, 2019, 03:11:42 AM »
Better late than never I guess.
Here's a couple of naked front Pinto pictures. And yes, I had to unbolt the rack to get the lower control arms off.
I didn't get any of the new paint yet.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #108 on: January 08, 2019, 12:34:37 PM »
Well, first of all I am getting tired of being about the only one with new posts showing up on the main page.
I'm really not a post whore.
 :o



No, you're not... but I think you're the main one actively working on a project at the moment.  Keep up the good work!

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #109 on: January 08, 2019, 03:16:17 PM »
I'm trying, but I am running out of gas.
Had to get up early today to run and get a floor jack (used of course) for $40. Close to full size, it's a Pittsburgh (HF). Couldn't refuse.
Working on painting the crossmember, need to go out and do the second coat.

Probably won't get anything else done today on the Pinto, got a pair of workbench legs I had ordered, Karen needs a bench to do wood sanding and cutting. Bought her a compound miter saw a while back, need the bench for it also. She has a Silhouette vinyl cutting machine and is now making signs with cutesy sayings on them. Uses painted wood for the base. https://www.amazon.com/Silhouette-Cameo-Starter-Bundle/dp/B00NAX7H78
I can use this for thin sheet plastic for custom model parts, if I ever get back to that. I will some day, but I can only handle one hobby at a time.

Probably end up using 2x4s again for the bench top. Saw a solid door on CL cheap, but it's just too big to fit in the Subaru. I need the Ranchero running.
I need to mount the miter saw lower than the top, so the cutting surface is level with the bench top. Shouldn't be too hard, I am pretty creative with wood.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #110 on: January 08, 2019, 03:53:21 PM »
a few progress pictures, and one of the wiring that came off the 351.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #111 on: January 09, 2019, 10:42:24 PM »
Well, today was the day I'd been dreading.
A nothing day.
Had to do some other stuff and just got nothing done with the Pinto.
And really tired on top of it all. I had to finish up Karen's work bench also.

I did get a grease gun, some grease, and a bearing packer though.
So I should be all set for tomorrow.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #112 on: January 10, 2019, 08:13:11 AM »
Well, perhaps after a day away from it, you can approach the Pinto with renewed vigor!  Go for it!!!


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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #113 on: January 12, 2019, 04:19:17 PM »
Or not. :-[

All I've gotten done since my last post is to get the control arms installed loosely since you don't want to fully tighten things until the car is on the ground under load. I should have put the lower ball joints on but I had a question on those since I've never used screw in ones before. Got that answered, but haven't gotten back out. I think I am going to have to buy a big wrench for the ball joints, another thing I didn't think about.

I am really surprised I got as much as I did done. I am going to go out as soon as I wake up here (lots of diet Dr. Pepper) and try to get the gas tank out at least. Problem I am having working on the back of the car is that the back is on the sloped part of my driveway. Not a huge slope, but enough to make me not want to trust the car being on jack stands on that part. :(

Back to trying to get things done on weekends for now. I'll take another week off in maybe late Feb or early March. Need to get back into the overtime at work to get some more money for the transmission, windshield, and misc. stuff here and there.
Odds of making my March deadline aren't good. But as long as I am making decent progress my wife isn't going to hold me to that deadline. But it will start to hit 100 degrees here in April, so there is a real deadline there.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #114 on: January 12, 2019, 07:59:51 PM »

Odds of making my March deadline aren't good. But as long as I am making decent progress my wife isn't going to hold me to that deadline. But it will start to hit 100 degrees here in April, so there is a real deadline there.


Well, you're making progress and Karen is in a position to see that for herself, so I think you'll be just fine so long as you can finish it up before it gets so terribly hot.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #115 on: January 13, 2019, 03:40:26 PM »
If the suspension arms are not attached use a vise as the socket to hold the ball, and the arm itself as the wrench to tighten it. Just be careful with those fine threads.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #116 on: January 18, 2019, 05:15:32 AM »
Thanks.
They are attached, plus I don't have a vise. That's on the need to get sooner or later list.
I keep forgetting to see what size wrench I need.
ETA, looks like 1 and 15/16ths. Speedway sells a spanner wrench for like $13 for these bushings.

Bought some different seats the other day. Not the greatest, and not what I really want, but for now they should work. For $60. Can always put covers on them.
Don't even know what they are out of, the seller had bought them used a couple of years ago and didn't remember.
Definitely need a good cleaning. But at least I can use the 4 point harnesses with these. Assuming they will fit in the car.

Trying to decide what to do with the Miata seats. Probably end up selling them, but part of me wants to keep them for the Ranchero.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #117 on: January 26, 2019, 03:14:15 AM »
I'm out of room.
Still have those seats in the back of the Subaru.  :-[
Once I get Bill's wheels shipped I will set the seats in the Pinto for now.

Still waffling on the Miata seats. But I really should just sell them. Or try to make some room in our storage place.

Going to really try to get the leftovers from the Mustang on CL and OfferUp later today. Doubt I will get much if anything, but need to try.

Going to order the ball joint wrench from Speedway the 31st. Need to get the front rolling so I can move the car up a bit to get the whole thing on the flat part of the driveway. I tried to get the rear up where it is now, but it was too iffy for me. Couldn't trust it. Another foot or so forward should be good.

I did get some cleaning done. This past week was the monthly bulk pickup, and I ended up putting the Pinto stock suspension out, along with the Ranchero's stock front coils. Did that Saturday night. Someone took it all by Sunday morning. Assuming it was a scrapper. Wish I could have gotten the 6.75 74 Pinto rear and the Crown Vic I took the disk brakes off of out front, but my back just flat said NO! So next month they will go. Got the Ranchero bed cleaned out, it was being used as a storage place, but most of what was there needed to be tossed. Looks a lot better now.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #118 on: January 31, 2019, 09:28:29 PM »
Picked up a Lincoln Mk VIII fan and a Spal pwm controller before work today. I'm not sure if I can use the controller the way I power the fan, but I'll see what I can find out.
$125. Been watching it on offerup, original price was $200. Didn't want the fan that bad, but what I paid for it is a good price for just the fan.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #119 on: February 03, 2019, 05:05:52 AM »
Interesting.
I was trying to learn about the Spal Fan-PWM that came with the fan. Apparently it has been taken off the market a while back, and it isn't on their website.
The reason I got a new one (as well as the old one the seller had) was that his original one got wet and quit working. This might be why they took it off the market, but I can't find anything for sure. Not interested enough to spend too much tiime on it.
The new one was a warranty replacement. Thinking about opening up the old one and seeing if I can fix it. I am an electronic tech after all.  :o Depends if there are any proprietary chips/programming on the board, though.

Wondering if Spal taking it off the market is a reason he had such a hard time selling this stuff. Like I said before, $125 was the top end of the price I was willing to pay for the fan. Didn't want to pay more for something extra I didn't want/need.

I am definitely not going to use it. I like how I have the Ranchero fan wired up and will be doing the same thing with the Pinto. A small relay that is triggered by the temp sensor, and that relay in turn triggers a continuous duty 100 amp or more (don't remember and can't find the one I have online) solenoid like the Ford starter solenoid, only the Ford isn't continuous duty, that powers the fan. The Lincoln fan draws a lot of current.

Don't know what I will do with the Spal stuff. Doubt if it is worth trying to sell since they took it off the market. Maybe just keep the harnesses that came with them (used one and a new one) and toss the modules. If someone here wants them with the harnesses for the shipping cost, let me know. Supposedly they work good when they work.

I came across this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KJNPHJ?pf_rd_p=c2945051-950f-485c-b4df-15aac5223b10&pf_rd_r=SJWJ2PHDNC8EF0EME1FW
while looking for the Spal stuff. It is similar to the Jeep Cherokee engine fuse box I am using, only it is new and doesn't come with relays/fuses/wiring. But pretty cheap if you need one and can't find a Cherokee to steal it from.

Got a new boss at work. I actually had to go in to work Saturday. GRRRRR. I work 10-12 hour days during the week so I don't have to work weekends. I won't be working that much during the week if I have to start working Saturdays. Plus I easily could have gotten what he wanted me to do today(saturday) done Friday night, only I didn't since I HAD to go in Saturday.
So I got nothing done that needed doing. Now I have to try to cram it all in on Sunday. I hate that. Sunday is supposed to be my rest day. Not in a religious sense, I just need one day for doing nothing.

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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