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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2018, 04:41:29 AM »
Now I am not sure I want to use my fuel cell.
Found out (I guess I forgot since I bought it on Ebay 3 or 4 years ago) that it is a Speedmaster79 part. Found some horrible reviews online for their stuff, although nothing about the fuel cells. While I am thinking the tank is either good or bad out of the box, it came with a sending unit that I am now wondering about, as well as the -10 AN fittings since I read about leaks with their fittings in general.

This  is the one, although I want to make it clear I did NOT buy it from Speedway. Bought it from the company direct I believe thru Ebay.
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedmaster-1-130-011-Aluminum-Fuel-Cell-15-Gallon,323455.html

First world problems.   ::)

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #61 on: October 26, 2018, 05:23:03 AM »
well, the things you find when playing on the internet.
I was looking for the 8 inch MII 5 lug axles and I think I have found them.
Place called Dutchman Axles.
They list axles for the stock 4 lug, but they offer a custom option for the bolt pattern, so I ordered the 5x4.5.
Should be getting a call later today from them, as you can't pay online.
Not real cheap, but better in my mind than trying to have the old ones welded/redrilled.
https://dutchmanaxles.com/
and here is the link to their chart of part numbers and sizes.
https://dutchmanaxles.com/images/sr-pob/SR-POB-Ford-Car.pdf
SR#182 is the one for the Pinto/MII 8inch rear. Like I said, stock is 4 lug, but you can customize it.
They do also list axles for the 6.75 rears.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #62 on: October 26, 2018, 06:24:51 AM »
I can be a real idiot.
Ok, you all don't have to agree so loudly.  ::)

I was looking at the VFN fiberglass site and they have a dash for the 70-75 Pinto, but no pictures.

So I've been looking all over for pictures to see the differences between that and a 79. I will have to cut up the stock dash, both to mount it and to add gauges. I'd rather cut up a fiberglass one. If I can figure out how to add the vin plate without it looking like I did. Thinking since that part is separate from the actual dash I should be able to cut and paste.

Well, I HAVE a 74 and a 79 dash. I just have to go look at them.
Sheesh. :-[
Sometimes I really wonder about myself. :-\

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #63 on: October 27, 2018, 08:55:49 PM »
I actually got something on my list done today.
I got the fenders off and in storage.
I was almost right, there were 3 bolts, but also some rivets I had forgotten about. So it took 2.25 hours, including a trip to PepBoys to get a set of drill bits.

I know people have put a 302 and even a 351 into these with the fender aprons, but it sure looks small even without the aprons and radiator support. The trans bellhousing should be fun.

A few pictures of what it is right now.

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #64 on: October 28, 2018, 09:22:14 PM »
hmm, I thought I had posted earlier today, guess it didn't make it.

I got the Pinto up on jackstands after finally finding 4 of the ones I have.
Got the wheels/tires off and listed for sale here and CL.

And then, maybe because I got up at noon, which I never do even on a workday, I did something I swore I would never do.
I bought a Painless wiring harness. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/prf-10102/overview/
I was looking at their fuse boxes, and saw the prices. Then I saw this harness on sale for not much more. Even though I will be heavily modifying the harness, I figured it would be better/easier than working with the almost 40 year old Pinto harness.

Oh, they have a sale going that ends today, which I never noticed before. $25 off any order over $250. So I bought something else on my wish list, and ended up spending less than the sales price of the harness for both items. Yay, me.

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2018, 11:42:52 PM »
I know, when am I going to shut up?

a few thoughts on Pinto things.

I finally got the interior pretty empty. Both sides have metal sheets riveted to them around the seat area. I think he was trying to cover up the subframes, but I won't know for sure until I take the stuff off.

The roll cage isn't going to interfere with the seats unless I went with really wide ones. However, the mounting may be an issue. Looks like he made some brackets to bolt seats in, again won't know for sure until I get the metal sheets off.

Roll cage is definitely going to interfere with the dash, but I will just have to notch the dash or something. But I pretty much knew that already. Fiberglass or aluminum would be so much easier to handle since I am doing this alone. But I'll figure something out.

Rear hatch area is not as cluttered as I was thinking once I got it emptied. The cage has NO cross bracing on the bars from the hoop to the rear of the car. Right now that will make it really easy to work back there. Not sure about long term.

Need to cut out the spare tire well. And that means making a new floor. I can't quite remove the entire floor due to the cage. Which is fine. I will probably just cut out a square section around the spare tire well. I need to figure out the best mounting for the fuel cell. Going to mount the battery inside the hatch area, bought a new Summit sealed box/trunk mount kit. Plus I will be using an AGM battery, so no worries about fumes. Got a Bosch one in the Subaru this summer, not a bad price. Cheaper than an Optima.

I can't use the battery/storage box I built for the 74 in this car. The cage just makes it impossible. Not sure what to do, might make a smaller version for speakers/tool storage. Something to think about, not a big worry. Just would have been nice to use it.

Hoping to get the brakes/suspension off tomorrow. Really give my Goodyear 24v cordless impact wrench a good workout. Probably just throw it in the back of the 74 for now. Our storage locker is FULL.

And under the "he's not very observant" heading, I had thought the rear bumper was already in storage. Nope, it is still mounted on the car.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #66 on: October 29, 2018, 01:30:10 PM »

 

Oh, they have a sale going that ends today, which I never noticed before. $25 off any order over $250. So I bought something else on my wish list, and ended up spending less than the sales price of the harness for both items. Yay, me.



I can never resist a good bargain!  Congrats!

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #67 on: October 29, 2018, 10:55:53 PM »
Thanks.
I need to start resisting better.  :-[

I am seriously considering this
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/pts/6686246706.html
It isn't the trans I want, it's a C6. The seller does have the computer as part of the deal. It isn't a Cleveland, but one in this condition would be out of my budget for now. Not sure about using the EFI. I don't think this trans would be computer controlled, so a carb would be simple. But then again EFI IS nice to have when it is working.
It would be the smaller bellhousing for the Windsor engines (also the Cleveland).
Possibility it could be the E40D. Trying to search, there is a transition period around 1989-1990 where both were used.
 
I committed to spending $450 or so this week on brake rotors for the Ranchero(1972 Thunderbird one year only rotors that swap onto Torinos and Rancheros for a large disk upgrade), but Napa might not have them anymore. I have to call them tomorrow to see if they do. If not, I think I can manage the engine/trans. I do have to rent something to haul it home with. Doubt it would all fit in the Subaru.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2018, 10:16:55 PM »
Well, the brake deal isn't happening so I am going to look at the engine and trans tomorrow afternoon. Seller is willing to bring it here if I buy it.
Hopefully my used hoist works, I tried it today with just my weight and it held. Need to get some bolts for the legs, can't find the ones I bought for it when I first got it. Concern right now is getting it out of the seller's truck. Not close to being ready to set it in the Pinto.

Oh, I might have to take a step backwards, and put the tires back on. If I get this engine I will have to move the Pinto so I can put the engine in back. Good thing I didn't take the front suspension apart yet.

In between excited and dreading. This is probably the best deal I will get, just wish it had overdrive. A GearVendors unit for the C4/C6 is about $3k. But for now this might be the best way to go. Get the car on the road, see just how bad the mileage is with the C6, save up for a built 5 speed.

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #69 on: October 30, 2018, 11:40:11 PM »
Working on trying to find out the bell dimensions of the small block C6. Not so easy, all the stuff I have found online omits the bell dimensions.

Anyway, I thought of a couple of things that might be important especially with this swap if I do it.

I will not be using the stock heat/ac stuff. Vintage Air has an underdash setup that looks like it would be better in my case.

I am pretty convinced that I will have to modify the firewall and trans tunnel a bit. I am just going to have to learn to weld. There is a welding supply place that gives lessons, like $75 an hour. I might even have to take a vacation day to do it since they only do it one day a week. But it will be worth it. There is so much I am trying to work around that welding would be the best and easiest way to go.

Right now my stamina isn't great. I need to work at that. I'm not dreading working on this, so that should really help. I need to keep making to do lists and sticking to them, even if they take longer to complete than I had thought. Skipping around from one thing to another isn't the way to do something like this. Stick to the plan, Russ!

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #70 on: October 31, 2018, 02:25:56 PM »
Try checking your local school system's vocational-technical center (Ours has been rebranded as a "Technical College." Same place. Same courses.). Ours offers welding at night. If I remember, the fee was really reasonable- maybe a few hundred bucks. Plus, you get to use their equipment. A lot of people that I taught with would periodically enroll so that they could build custom grills, modify stock trailers, etc. Since you are not interested in obtaining a welding certificate, you wouldn't have to worry about attending every class. There is usually a fall schedule and then another in January. Just a suggestion.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #71 on: October 31, 2018, 11:15:35 PM »
Thanks.
Good idea, only I work evenings.
I've been procrastinatin g on learning to weld for way too many years. Just got to do it.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2018, 11:21:20 PM »
How to install a 351W and C6 trans in a 79 Pinto? ???
That is going to be something I will have to figure out, as I bought the 89 engine/trans.  ;D
And it is definitely just a C6. darn it. The seller knew what he was talking about.  :o
Gas mileage, who needs gas mileage? :P

And I didn't get much done on my to do list. And I have to put the tires back on to move the car. Oh, well. I guess getting the engine makes up for some of it. :-[

ETA
I forgot to mention the engine came with all accessories, computer, harnesses, etc. Even an AC compressor. And power steering, which I don't have. But I could use it for hydraulic assist brakes. HMMMMM.
I just ordered a cd version of the 1989 Truck Service Manual that covers this engine and transmission.
I am going to see if the E4OD trans will work and what I would have to do. Overdrive would be nice.
Still up in the air about the EFI vs carb. I'll probably try the EFI and if i get it working I'll keep it, but if I can't get it going then it goes. :-)

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2018, 01:48:25 AM »
AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

My brain is about to explode. Looking at the EFI stuff online and realized I will have to get an air intake, as well as an EFI capable fuel setup.
Thinking "just go with the carb", then realize I need a different distributor (I think).

This is not going to be an easy decision.

ETA, just found out that I have a "truck" 5.8. Apparently the EFI stuff is different. Carb is sounding better all the time.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2018, 04:16:03 AM »
Been doing nothing but googling this efi to carb swap the last few hours. :o

Finally found out the for a 351 that I can swap in a non efi distributor without any problems. Thought there was a oil pump shaft issue, but turns out that it only makes a difference with the 302, unless you are trying to use an efi distributor in an originally carbed 351 engine. Which I am not. ;D

So for me I am going to just go with the carb. It'll make my life a lot simpler as far as getting this car on the road. I have a carb I was going to use on the Ranchero already as well. So I need a distributor and an intake. Not a huge expense. And I've seen an intake on CL for $75. Since I was planning on (and have) a fuel pump for the carb setup that I really want to use, and would have to do new fuel lines regardless, that isn't an issue.

If this was going into a car that had efi already, I would make the effort just for emissions sake. But no Pinto I ever heard of came with EFI.  :D

More stuff to toss on CL and never sell. goody.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #75 on: November 02, 2018, 06:07:24 AM »
Got my 5 lug axles today from Dutchman Axles. Shiny.  ;D
Now, the only problem is I can't find the spacer kit for the Crown Vic disk brakes I bought about 3 years ago. I need it installed the same time as bearings, otherwise I could have had Dutchman do the bearings as well as the lugs. I might have to buy another kit. Only about $50, but still a pain. I know it is here SOMEWHERE. I have the brakes, bought them and the kit for the Ranchero, but you know how that is going. I will have to get another setup for it when the time comes. Not a real problem.

Starting to think there is a problem with the Speedway front brake kit. Keeps getting pushed back. Oh, well. I haven't paid for it yet so I can wait.  :'(

Also ordered a Summit HEI distributor. Right now cost was a factor, plus I do not want anything that has to have a separate control box. Not even a Duraspark setup.
Will have to see how it does once it is together. I know lots of people hate HEI on a Ford, but I don't. Whatever works best and I can afford.

The guy on CL just sold his $75 intake, but there is the swap meet this Sunday. Generally can get that sort of stuff cheap there. If I am allowed to spend any more money. I've spent just a little on this so far.  :-[ :-X

I am feeling pretty good about the carb decision. Feels like a huge weight lifted off of me. EFI just has so many sensors and wires and injectors and stuff. I am not up to dealing with all that at this point. I can always go with an aftermarket EFI down the road if I really want it. Maybe I can sell it all to someone who wants to do EFI. Although this is the truck stuff, a bit different from the car version. Not sure what all. That was part of the problem. I just don't know much about EFI. Not that interested in learning either.  :-[

Good thing about doing the engine is I can install it straight in, no up and over and angles and dangles.  8)
One advantage to no radiator support.

Sounds like I will be redoing the trans tunnel from what I am hearing. I kind of wish I didn't have to, but I have to deal with what I have. And I imagine an overdrive transmission won't be much smaller, so it shouldn't really hurt anything in the long run. Still hoping to be able to get a good 5 speed eventually, but I am not going to wait for that to happen to get this on the road. We don't have the room for all the stuff my wife will buy if I don't meet the end of March deadline.  ::)

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #76 on: November 02, 2018, 06:53:26 AM »
Oh, geez.

Someone on the vintage Mustang forum was telling someone about Modern Driveline. They have a T5 that would work.
Got me thinking, since this is a stock engine more or less, for now at least, maybe I could get by with a V8 T5 trans for now. Just no 4 grand starts.
One local is listed for $300, and another one doesn't have a price. I just emailed both of them, although there is no way I could buy it right now. My wife would kill me for sure. But they have been listed for quite a while, so maybe another couple of weeks.

Looks like I will be working Saturday.

Maybe I can get the trans I want sooner rather than later.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #77 on: November 02, 2018, 11:03:27 AM »


Maybe I can get the trans I want sooner rather than later.


That would be great!  The key to not getting killed by the wife is NEVER tell her what you're up to! ;)

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #78 on: November 02, 2018, 05:52:43 PM »
Well, she does the bills, and right now I don't have a debit card since someone (scum) stole the information and took $420. Had to get a new account and I am waiting on the new card.
Bank credited back the money finally at least.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #79 on: November 03, 2018, 05:19:55 AM »
It's a disease. That is what it is. :-[
But then one local radio station has already started non stop (except for commercials) Christmas music. So this is my Christmas present to me.  :o

I just ordered this.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/qti-rm-6053/overview/make/ford

I guess I am committed to a manual now. Or maybe just committable.  ::) With this bellhousing at least there is a choice of transmissions.
And this one is the Mustang II size. I wanted SFI cert, but they don't have them in this size. Figured I am not racing anyway, so it shouldn't matter much. Decided that for this kind of money I might as well get the one that fits better. Going to need all the help I can get there.

I almost went with a much cheaper aluminum one, but that one wasn't available in the MII size either, and I would have been locked into one transmission. And it didn't come with the block plate or hardware.

This engine had better be able to use a manual trans. Not sure on Fords, but back in my Pontiac days there were cranks that weren't machined for a pilot bearing. But manuals were available with this engine in 89, so I should be ok.

No word from either seller on CL, not a surprise.  ::)

If you stop hearing from me, my wife has found out how much I have spent.  :-X

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #80 on: November 03, 2018, 10:16:39 PM »
Thanks to pintob (Brent) I have the missing hatch upper brackets.
Great to meet you.

Hoping to get going on the car tomorrow, today was a get the shopping stuff done sort of day.

These 2 day weekends are just too short. I'm taking the 15th and 16th off this month, last of my vacation time for this year. Next year will have 4 weeks, so will be using some early for the Pinto.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #81 on: November 07, 2018, 04:05:29 AM »
I have the last big order (at least for a month or two) coming from Speedway on Friday.
Maybe I should gather up everything I've bought and take some pictures. Or should I just take pictures of the invoices? ::)
Not too sure I want to see all those in one place.  :o
I'm already finding stuff that I have bought in the last month that I have forgotten about.  :-[

We bought a very cheap plasma cutter from Home Depot. We as in my wife has talked about wanting one for years. Might try it out on the Pinto. I am going to have to cut out the spare tire well. Might just use the metal saw I bought. This time around I am going to just make it a nice square cut, be easier to patch. This is so I can fit the fuel cell underneath the hatch floor. I also need to get rid of the stock tank. I am hoping I can make the Speedmaster fuel cell I bought a few years ago work. I really need to have the filler connected to the stock fill tube/cap. But so far it seems no one makes a fill tube/valve that fits their size/bolt pattern. Once I can get to it, I need to measure it and see if it is close to anything already out there. One of the things coming Friday is Speedway's fuel cell mounting bracket kit. It's close to what I had in mind to try to make myself. Figured what the heck, might as well just buy it. Doing that a lot this time around, maybe it will actually help me to finish a car for once. :-[ :-X
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Speedway-Bolt-In-Fuel-Cell-Brackets,56241.html

I also bought a 31 inch double pass aluminum radiator. Normally way too big for a Pinto, but I'm thinking with no radiator support or anything it shouldn't be a problem. With a 351 in Phoenix big is better. Still need to come up with a way to mount it. Might have found something, but it needs a cross bar to mount to, and I don't have one up front, yet. Thinking about making a bolt in one just for this, as I don't want anything blocking the engine from going in or coming out easily.

Also a master cylinder, and two proportioning valves. One nice and fancy with a brake light switch, and one simple one in case the other doesn't have enough adjustment. This second one goes all the way to zero if needed.

And a Weiand 351w stealth intake manifold. This I just got impatient with, should have been looking at swap meets. But new is good too.

Aluminum 1/2 inch fuel line, and a very nice 37 degree flaring tool. The tool was almost the same price as the radiator, but it is supposed to be the best available. Ridgid.

Speaking of Speedway, their 11 inch brake kit is still on back order. Can't afford it right now anyway. I wish they had charged me for it when I placed the order. My luck, the one time I order something that ends up on back order they don't charge me right away.

And of course, I find a 351C 4bbl engine and trans on sale for $300 on CL the other night. Needs rebuilt, so it wouldn't have worked for me right now, but for that kind of money if I hadn't already have bought an engine I would have been ringing this seller's phone off the hook. (oops, does that show my age?) I posted the link on the Torino site and people are drooling over it, but they are all too far away to make it practical. I'm right where it is, but am cash poor right now. Oh, well. Wasn't meant to be for me.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #82 on: November 21, 2018, 12:42:34 AM »
Well, looks like I won't be using the Pinto seats from the 74.
Asked about cost to recover them and this is what I got.
"Just guessing recover 300-400 each , foam is the question , not sure if you need back and bottom and what they are shaped like, you could end up with 600 in each seat as a ball park estimate"
I think I can get some decent seats for half of that at least.

Have to think a bit, having the site down for so long has made me confused on where I was at.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #83 on: November 21, 2018, 12:49:47 AM »
Oh, I knew I was forgetting something.
I bought these the day the site went kaboom.
Net cost $20, I sold the wheels/tires that came on the Pinto for $50 earlier that day, and then found these on CL for $70. Went that night and got them.
Oh, they are not real Centerlines, but close enough for me.
Now the question is will they fit? Not out much if not, but hoping they will.
15x10   :o ;D
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #84 on: November 21, 2018, 05:27:57 AM »
They look to be in good shape!  Nice score!


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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #85 on: November 23, 2018, 04:02:42 AM »
Thanks.
I wish I could quit window shopping on Craigslist. And now I am doing it on OfferUp.
Wouldn't be bad except I keep finding things I need but have to wait and hope they haven't sold before my next payday.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #86 on: November 29, 2018, 11:10:24 PM »
Apparently I have decided on what seats to use.  :o
I am buying these tomorrow before work. $150. ;D

I kept seeing the cheap racing style seats, and thought I was going to get them used, but then I saw these. They aren't exactly what I wanted in looks, but they are very close. And most importantly, they are OEM seats. I was a bit worried about the cheap part of the other seats, especially in a crash. Knowing that these Miata seats are stock, I am not worried about them falling apart if something happens. All the seats I have been interested in have been around the same price. Not about to spend hundreds on seats at this point just to have some "name".

Found out that some of these have speakers in the headrest. These are from a base 95, not sure if these have them or not. Would be cool if they do, but not why I am getting them so it really doesn't matter.

Not going to worry about it right away, but I've found some very good recover upholstery fairly cheap for these. Apparently Miatas are pretty popular. At least the seats, there are tons of covers for them.

This is probably my only purchase for the Pinto this check. I am spending $60 on something I've been hoping to find for quite a while. It is from the 80's, was called an RCA Selectivision player. Plays movie discs, but unlike the laser disc this used a capacitive discharge setup that has a needle like the old vinyl record players. I used to have one and many movies/shows. Always wanted another one, even though CD and now BluRay is so much better. These were just so cool back then. This one comes with like 80 movies. Might be a challenge finding a new needle cartridge, but any I bought would have the same issue. Tired of looking at thrift stores for one.

Both of these are thanks to Offer Up. Still using Craigslist as well.

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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #87 on: November 30, 2018, 04:26:06 PM »
Those seats will look great in a Pinto!  Congrats on finding the movie disc player you wanted!


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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #88 on: November 30, 2018, 05:15:53 PM »
Well, oops.
I bought one more thing today. Found a pair of 275/60/15 tires on Craigslist for $70. They were near the seat location. Guy had several people interested, I managed to be there first. Yay, me.
Now how to tell Karen.
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Re: New to me 79 Pinto glass hatch ESS
« Reply #89 on: December 09, 2018, 04:19:08 AM »
Well, since I am getting ready to get rid of the rims on the car currently, I got to thinking about things, and I think I have finally made up my mind one one area that has been up in the air.

I have 2 MustangII/Pinto 8 inch rear ends. The one currently on the 79, and the one I bought for the 74 and is all apart. Been going back and forth on which to use.

Decided that even though it will be a bit more work for me, I am going to get the one that is sitting in my workroom put together. The one on the 79 looks rather greasy and has been sitting for what, 20 years or more. So I would be better off taking that one apart anyway, although right now I probably wouldn't. So I will keep that one on the car for now, get the other one cleaned up, modified for the Crown Vic disc brakes (minor cutting on the ends) maybe powder coated or at least painted, and have it ready to go. Also need to get the new 5lug axles ready, need spacers for the brakes and new bearings pressed on. Then take the  other  one off the car, take out the 3rd member, and swap that. And hopefully not have any leaks. Allthough I am worried about the pinion thingie leaking on it, might have to have that checked out by a pro.

This would be the ideal time to put Traction Lock in it. But that probably won't happen for now. Have gotten to the point where I need to concentrate on needs, not wants.

Got to get the car turned around later  today so it is in the correct position for my working on it while the tires are still attached. At least it rolls pretty easily. Be good if I get that much done, I also need to get the transmission off of the 351W so I can put it up for sale. Although I am having no luck selling the 65-70 Mustang floor pans. Wonder why. Arizona, not many rusty cars. Hmmm, think there is any connection?  :P

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