Author Topic: My first car is a 78 Pinto (Read 30878 times)

johnbigman2011 · « **Reply #60 on:** November 19, 2012, 05:44:06 PM »

Have you guys ever new of anyone running the Pony Ram set up on the 2.0 by chance?

cabecho · « **Reply #61 on:** November 19, 2012, 06:02:53 PM »

i think i know what your talking about. the two single barrel set up right?

johnbigman2011 · « **Reply #62 on:** November 19, 2012, 06:07:52 PM »

Thats the one! It would look good on my T. Just cant find no one to rebuild the carbs. Heck I even have the kickdown linkage for the auto trans. I looked hi and low for it and now all it is used for is decoration.

There's a write about about it in the magazine section, here on the home page.

cabecho · « **Reply #63 on:** November 19, 2012, 06:42:16 PM »

i seen them on the track there is a old guy that have them on. but i dont really know him. now if you give me a few days i can probably fine you something, or some where you can get the carbs. i order 3 holly 94 for a costumer not long ago and they look pretty close to what you are looking for im sure we can fine something that will cover what you need. unless you are looking for thous specific ones.

johnbigman2011 · « **Reply #64 on:** November 19, 2012, 06:46:56 PM »

Might have to look at that approch for sure. I never could find out what the CFM's were on the two carbs that came with it. Again, I think they would look good on the T.

cabecho · « **Reply #65 on:** November 19, 2012, 07:04:23 PM »

i think they will look grate. and i was just reading on them i think. they are 185 cfm.
i will call one of the guys that i get the carbs from and i will fine out. i have a speed shop im sure we will fine something.

johnbigman2011 · « **Reply #66 on:** November 19, 2012, 07:11:02 PM »

Sounds good, for sure.

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #67 on:** November 20, 2012, 05:32:25 PM »

I'm getting ready to do quite a bit of welding and patching the floor of my car and I'm wondering if there is anything else I should be doing while I have the welder out. Is there any reinforcing or anything else that would be beneficial? I know that they add sub-frame connectors in V8 conversions, would there be any benefit from doing this to a car with a mildly modified n/a 2.3? what do you guys think?

P.S. the car is torn down to the bare body and will eventually be repainted so this is a great time to do any beneficial modifications.

johnbigman2011 · « **Reply #68 on:** November 20, 2012, 07:46:40 PM »

If you ever plan on going with big HP go for it while you have it tore down. There is a good right up on how to install them on here. Look in the search section.

Pinturbo75 · « **Reply #69 on:** November 20, 2012, 08:11:34 PM »

i realize my 2.3 isnt mild but i do have frame connectors and it does make a difference in the way the car handles....

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #70 on:** November 20, 2012, 09:13:58 PM »

thanks guys, I'll look at it more tomorrow but I'm thinking I might use some angle iron to connect the leaf spring mounts to the front frame. About 50% of the floor is rusted through so I'm planning on cutting most of the floor out and just making entirely new floor pans out of the sheet steel that I have. This should make it fairly easy to work in any extra framework that I decide to do. One of my dad's friends said I should tub it while I have it this far apart but I'm not going to since I would prefer to be able to use the interior panels and the biggest tires I can see putting on it would be 205/60r13(biggest that will fit on my mags) Anything else that you guys would recommend doing at this point?

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #71 on:** November 26, 2012, 10:02:25 PM »

I didn't get near as far as I had planned over break but I definitely made some progress. I picked up an old gravity box that was falling apart in a friend's barnyard. I took it completely apart and I'm gonna use the steel to make my new floor.

My dad also helped me make a cradle or "tip-over jig" to make my floor work a little easier.

sorry about the lighting

I think I have a plan for the subframe connectors, I actually found some channel to use. I should be all ready to go when i get home next. Only 3 weeks until christmas break and then I'm home for a month.

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #72 on:** November 27, 2012, 02:28:56 PM »

I forgot to mention this earlier in my thread but thanks to 79Prostreet I now have an actual gas tank so I can stop using the one gallon go-kart tank.

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #73 on:** November 28, 2012, 03:56:34 PM »

while I'm welding a new floor in, what do you guys recommend as far as moving the seats back a little? I'm only 6'2'' but it's mostly legs so getting between the seat and the steering wheel is a bit awkward.

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #74 on:** November 07, 2013, 10:03:36 PM »

wow, its been awhile since i've updated my project thread. The work is going alot slower than i was hoping but there is definitely progress. It's hard to find time to work on my car when i'm going to college over 2 hours away. Anyways, this is what i accomplished this last summer. when i left off last winter i was working on the floor and subframe connectors.

the floor pans are made of galvanized steel that is a little thicker than the original floor. The subframe connector design was created and stress tested on a 3d modeling and simulation program and compared to several other designs. this structure tested to be the strongest of my designs while staying under 40 pounds of extra steel. the steel tubes are welded into the floor for the entire length of the connectors to help evenly distribute stress. there is also smaller tube welded along the rocker panels. the simulations i ran showed that by forming a box with the rocker panels and the main subframe connector rails, it greatly increased the structures ability to resist twisting.

the rear if the main subframe rails T into 3x1 inch tubing placed where the supports for the rear seats used to be. there tubes are notched and welded into the from leaf spring mount and the rear subframe. the other end of the tube is welded to a reinforced arch in the trans. tunnel. this completley "boxes in" the center portion of the car that previously lacked a frame.

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #75 on:** November 07, 2013, 10:05:49 PM »

I also did some body work and primed it before coming back to school, i'll post more pics later.

Srt · « **Reply #76 on:** November 08, 2013, 03:40:44 AM »

I "like"!

It looks like you're going in the right direction. Any vehicle can be improved by a stiffer body structure. Every part of the driving experience will be iimproved by what you have done.

How about some photos of the top side of the shell?

oldkayaker · « **Reply #77 on:** November 08, 2013, 03:34:22 PM »

Srt, click on the photos above and it takes you to Clydesdale80's photobucket. Photos of the top side in primer are at the front.

Clydesdale80, Thanks for the idea and research into adding rocker panel stiffing tubes during the frame connector installation. I am sure you are aware, but in case somebody else is trying to weld galvanized steel, it puts off a bad gas so use extra ventilation if you have to weld it. Looking forward to future progress during your next school break.

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #78 on:** November 08, 2013, 07:33:02 PM »

i agree about the welding the galvanized, i used a grinder to remove the coating on the edges i was welding but still did most the welding outside. I will post the rest of the pics on this thread next time i get some time.

thanks for the compliments on frame connectors, it was a slow progress as i was hesitant to just start cutting and found myself second guessing every idea i had but i think it turned out well, there was also a significant amount of cleaning up ugly edges and welds after those pics were taken. the bottom of the car looks much more natural now and the added rails don't stand out like they do in that picture. thanks again guys, i'm glad the consensus isn't that i ruined my car

lol

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #79 on:** November 08, 2013, 11:37:57 PM »

here are all the pics of the top side, i've been sanding most of it down to bare metal and dinging out the dents and glazing everything smooth. there was some metal that was cut out by the previous owner and i had to replace with some non-factory sheetmetal. I'll see if any of you can spot the slightly custom replacement metal

the floor patches blended in fairly well and you can see the main subframe connectors underneath where the front seats would be.

Let me know if anyone spots the custom bodywork and what you think of it.

74 PintoWagon · « **Reply #80 on:** November 09, 2013, 06:21:21 AM »

It's coming along great.

dennisofaz · « **Reply #81 on:** November 09, 2013, 12:07:24 PM »

Hi Clydesdale80.

It it the custom louvered cowl?

Dennis

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #82 on:** November 09, 2013, 02:50:28 PM »

bingo! the previous owner cut out the cowl vents so they got replaced with louvers meant for a rat rod hood. it still needs a little more blending but I have the basic shape smoothed out.

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #83 on:** November 10, 2013, 10:05:09 PM »

here's a better pic of the new cowl louvers. i wasn't able to find any stock parts to replace the vents so i bought a pair of these hot rod louvers - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-of-Streetbeast-34-Ford-Louvered-Angled-hood-inserts-panels-/181201671890?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a307616

I think they will look pretty good behind one of these - http://www.ebay.com/itm/69-70-FORD-MUSTANG-MACH-1-CJ-TORINO-BOSS-HOOD-SCOOP-WITH-GRILL-/271311965692?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f2b740dfc&vxp=mtr

r4pinto · « **Reply #84 on:** December 28, 2013, 05:55:48 PM »

Looks like the car is coming along really nicely! Wish I knew you were looking for a cowl. The one on my 77 has a couple small dents from where the hood flew up but other than that it's not too bad.

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #85 on:** December 29, 2013, 01:32:19 PM »

thanks, that's ok about the cowl, now that it's all welded in I kind of like the little custom touch

r4pinto · « **Reply #86 on:** December 29, 2013, 01:41:55 PM »

To be completely honest I like the look. It looks like it was supposed to be that way. Looks like you do good weld work.

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #87 on:** December 29, 2013, 06:25:35 PM »

I do ok at the welding but it looks the way it does because I was patient using the grinder followed by many thin layers of filler. There is still smoothing that needs to be done that isn't apparent in the pictures.

r4pinto · « **Reply #88 on:** December 29, 2013, 07:35:42 PM »

Heck, no chance of big leaves getting in there with that set up

Clydesdale80 · « **Reply #89 on:** December 29, 2013, 09:45:33 PM »

lol, I hadn't thought about it that way

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