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LS swap question
« on: May 31, 2017, 01:40:49 PM »
for the few that have just wondering what motor mounts you used on your LS swap into a pinto.

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2017, 02:04:54 PM »
Why do you need motor mounts with such a small engine bay? Just drop it in and chain it down. Its a chebby isn't it? It'll feel right at home if you put Vega on the doors. Why screw up a car that gains value each and ever day. If you want a chebby, put it in a chebby.
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2017, 05:00:39 PM »
Thanks for your input. Your name is very fitting.

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2017, 08:03:00 PM »
Please respect everyone's decisions on car and powerplant.  I can't tell you how many people tell me to stuff a v8 in mine.  It's ur car, do what you want. 

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2017, 10:01:04 PM »
shuffln,

You want to talk like that!?, GO some where else.  We don't want or need that here!
Show some respect for other opinions.
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2017, 11:59:31 PM »
No need for nastiness, folks! :(  This site works best when we all respect one another and try to get along.  Okay?

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2017, 11:27:41 AM »
Serious you tell me no need for that. I was polite. Unlike the first reply being total disrespectful on my choice of engine. I asked a simple question from those that have done it. Im not new to the car game. And have always been respectful. If u dont like what some one post move on and dont respond. But please be an butt expect it back. Way to many keyboard heros that need to belittle every post they can . If my post was disrespectful then the mod can delete me.

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2017, 06:16:50 PM »
Guess the reason is that now the supply of pintos is not what it use to be, yes you can stuff any engine you like in any car , some are a bolt in and others which I have seen cut the car up so badly that it's useless and the car is scraped and a waste of a good pinto, back in the 70s I put a Ford 302 into a corvette that I brought from a bank that was repoed with a fried engine (no 350s cheep at that time) yep I got a ton of grief over that but it was my car , ran well . I do not know of anyone on this site that has done the LS swap , if you end up doing it make sure it's a bolt in , (please don't cut the car up unless it's a rust bucket) , in case you want to restore it back to stock condition, there are parts still out there that can make the old 2.3 in the car run better and quicker than a LS swap , unless it's going to be a drag car only , my only two cents to give is don't cut the car up , they are not making them anymore , later Blaine ,
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2017, 07:50:11 PM »
First and foremost the car isnt original. Its a strip/street car already. With a 6 point cage and complete frame connectors. We just did a complete.5.0 swap with t5 in my son in laws 79. I dont want the same. Where im from stock pintos are cheap.  So power for power dollar for dollar ls 6.0 is cheaper then a 5.0. I know i just did one. My 80000 km ls and th350 with 3200 stall was cheaper then the 5.0 drivetrain i had. Ill be honest im very open minded to all cars. Ive seen hacks and ive seen nice customs from mopar, ford, chevy, and imports. Ive seen slammed and ive seen 4x4 . So who cares as long as they are done right and keep them alive.

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2017, 11:17:55 PM »
So true on keeping them alive and being done right , as for the LS engine I have no idea if it will fit or not , guess your going to have lower one into the engine bay and look and see, done the V8 pinto stuff in the early 70s,  now I'm just looking for MPG and long life , (me and the car ) good luck , later Blaine
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2017, 03:47:12 AM »
The LS engine with a couple turbos can fit with some effort, see photo below.  The thread http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=301820 had some photos but there was no info on the motor mounts.   
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2017, 06:12:06 AM »
i will do a build thread. i have a few buddies that have a couple of v8 pintos and i can tell you when at a show or the strip they gain everyone's respect. The little car that blew up and no one wanted is looked at differently when you lift the hood and there is a power machine under there.My son in law loves his 5.0 79 and the looks he gets and always the same question WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?  HOW DID YOU GET A V8 IN THERE? his looks stock other then 275 tires out back, traction bars and fox body scoop,  79 rallye and can be put back to original.  again i'll do a write up so those who are interested will have some guidelines. lets be honest a stock LS puts out 345 hp compare to a 5.0 225hp. a cam change and little bolt ons and your well over 400hp. it cost a few grand to get a 5.0 to turn 400hp. i know I have a 86 fox with a 306SBF. ive done a few foxes, pintos, mustang II's . And there will always be the debate why chevy in a ford or was the LS originally a ford ?   build your dreams , build it right, build it for you.

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2017, 08:21:47 AM »
From what I've read, the LS was based on SBF.....

oldkayaker.... that car looks like no frame supports or rad support. It will be one twisty SOB ! I'd be checking the cross member welds each run/drive !

Myself, I've never looked much at cost. Done right takes $

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2017, 09:36:50 AM »
No twist as it has a full pro stock cage front to back. Hi $$ car and fast but what a waste of a really nice Pinto. Would really like to know where the front spoiler came from since the stock rally spoilers are like hen's teeth.
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2017, 06:12:20 PM »
Following this build. Thinking about doing this to my 76 mustang ii

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2017, 08:17:00 AM »
While the LS engine has been out for a few years and some parts are cheep , yes the stock output is 345 hp and a few mods 400 hp , just noticed a new one that might become a future candidate for the pinto , small and all aluminum light weight and the numbers of them are rising, stock it is 365 ot 375 depending on year , chip upgrades over 400 hp , the eng is a 3.5 ecoboost in a Ford truck , went to a wrecking yard and saw one on the floor , it's small and short and found it's is used in the new Ford gt , 650hp, for now I may plan on useing it in my cruse Wagon , if I ever make up my mind :o have a great weekend , later Blaine
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2017, 05:18:26 PM »
Price on the 3.5 ?

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2017, 08:07:52 PM »
They wanted around $1,900 for the engine and Transmission , checked flea bay and about the same up to $5,000 , know the price will come down because all the F150 have this engine now, now thinking of using it in my Cruze wagon , engine is out but if I can find a core to test fit I will know for sure , watch a few you tube videos of the torture test of the engine so should last me a hundred years or more 😁


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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2017, 06:28:43 AM »
5K + 40% exchange rate = 7k CDN.......  :'(

One in Calgary right now for 3500 CDN.......

Like you, I would like to test fit one first. May see (one day) if the junk yard here has a blown one.....

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2017, 10:44:52 AM »
No need for nastiness, folks! :(  This site works best when we all respect one another and try to get along.  Okay?

Dwayne

  Often these disputes seem to come down to brand loyalty and a preference for stock or near stock retainment.  So, a die hard Ford guy will always expect a Ford engine under the hood of a Ford. And a die hard Pinto guy will cringe at the major alteration of a Pinto.

  I'll never forget when I modified my '73 radiator cradle to fit the later 20" radiator.  I specifically went to great pains to retain all the stock aspects including using only the existing metal and overlap welding the piece to strengthen the area.  If you didn't know any better you would have thought Ford made it that way. So, of all the people I thought would appreciate my effort it would have been Pintony. Instead he was rather upset that I had (slightly) altered one of his beloved early Pinto's.

  I think we need to remember that someone else's car is THEIR car.  On the other hand I think we should have understanding that without the die hard Ford/Pinto guys that will be just one less true Pinto in the world. I realize it can be tough at times. I own a Studebaker and they actually sourced Chevrolet engines their last two years ('65-'66) having shut down their own engine manufacturing. Yet there are a lot of die hard Studebaker owners that cringe at the thought of a 350 Chevy engine.  I live on both sides of this fence. I DO have a real preference for engines of the same manufacture. On the other hand the cost and power aspects (for the money) made it a no brainer when I put a Corvette 350 in my '64 Studebaker. Pardon me now while I go have an argument with myself.   ;D

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2017, 07:14:01 AM »
Know what you are talking about , sometimes the original part are nowhere to be found , or a cheep quest for power , as for studebakers I have had a few years ago , Larks , a avanti , and. R-2 Hawk , parts were scarce then worse now unless someone is reproduceing them , they were ahead of their time , and now sometimes you have no choice but an engine swap , and some pick the wrong engine for the swap , Too big , and too much cutting to make it fit, my 79 Cruze Wagon project still sits engine less right now (removed to put in my76 after it was run hot) and still have not made up my mind what to put in it , a few options at first was to find another 2.8 to overhaul and install , but parts are kind of easy to find , next was the 2.9 , yep it's a bolt in and more power but it was last made in the early 90s , next was a Diesel engine out of a 240D Mercedes, yep I should get 40 mpg and last forever but 0 to sixty in the next three days , last one is the 4.0 out of a ranger , good power , bolt in , but not made anymore since the late 90s ,(got one)  still have not made up my mind yet , but still like to have a 61 champ 😎
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2017, 09:19:35 AM »
I "vote" you get the drive line out of a 2011 Ford Ranger for it  ;D

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2017, 11:35:48 AM »
I have a '63 Champů.
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2017, 01:11:07 PM »
Cool truck!!!  I've never owned a Studebaker but I've driven a few over the years.  I always liked them.  Maybe someday...

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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2017, 07:14:57 PM »
Nice Champ , got the six or 8 ,  259 or 289 , ? ,   Hey Reeves I got the whole drivetrain out of a 93 ranger , 4.0 , the 2011 has almost the same block but the heads are taller , the bolt pads for the 2.8 mounts are not there  , the early 4.0 they bolt up to the block , think around 98 they changed , but now even the 2011 4.0 is not made anymore 😫, still I have the everything I need (except time) to install it , but that extra 150 HP and great MPG sure looks good , 😁
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2017, 12:10:02 PM »
The Champ  has a 259.
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2017, 03:43:43 PM »
The Lark I use to have had the 259 , good engine and got very good gas mileage for what it was , most had the overdrive , the last one I drove had a automatic , friends truck when i helped him move , that was back in 71 , long long time ago  ;D
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2017, 04:04:11 PM »
One thing nobody on here has talked about is no matter which V8 you install in your Pinto, all that extra weight is going to be dead center over the front axle. Good way to end up in a ditch. Friend of mine had such a V8 Pinto. After he built it, it was so hard to drive fast that he removed the posie to gain control over it. Ever truly FAST (10.0 to 8.30) one I ever saw at the drags had the engine moved back and or hundreds pounds of lead in the trunk.
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2017, 10:09:26 PM »
You are so right on that , built over a half a dozen V8 pintos over the early years , first one was a 71 with a 289 , yep the engine was heavy , cast iron intake , cast iron exhaust manifolds , very heavy top loader, and when you had your foot into it the handling was like a bottle rocket, everywhere but straight, you are very correct on this Dick , found later the heavier wagons were much better , but still to much understear in the corners , found the turbo 2.3s were the best combo , my V6 is just fare , your car just have to pick your poison, dragcar or road car ,
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Re: LS swap question
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2017, 06:12:19 PM »
for the few that have just wondering what motor mounts you used on your LS swap into a pinto.
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