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Shiny is Good! => Your Project => Topic started by: Pinto5.0 on September 16, 2011, 05:14:31 PM
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OK, I bit the bullet & picked up this '73 trunk model for $700.
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It was a Florida car & has mint floors, frame, rockers, nearly rust free doors & fenders but has a little rot in the quarters but nothing beyond pinholes & it's mainly the drivers side. It's almost a shame I have to cut the floor for framerails & tubs.
The interior has EXP seats, no rear seat & a button tuck headliner..... .Eeeeewwwww!!
The engine, a built 2.0 & 4 speed were taken out 16 years ago for a V8 swap that never happened & it also comes with 2.3 which I happened to need for one of my dunebuggies. The 2.0 comes with a header(still in car) , an Offy 4 barrel intake & an adjustable cam gear. There's rumor of a cam as well as some porting but I wont know till I tear into it. This may find its way into another of my buggies as well.
I needed another Pinto project like I need migraine headaches.
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Well wouldn't you know it...... I have a built 302w & T-5 that I'm pulling out soon ! LOL !
(to be replaced with a BOSS 302 & T-10)
Only about 600 miles on the engine !
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I wish I had the money to spare. My 302 has about 60K miles on it as does the trans. but it will get me rolling for awhile. I've got a .500 lift cam to pep it up & a tunnel ram with 390 Holley's to dress it up a bit.
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I dug a few of the parts out that will find their way onto this car down the road & snapped some pix. All I need now is some time to get to it all.
Here's the intake with the 390's sitting on it.
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Here's the 11" Granada rotors I got from Advance Auto Parts with the Wilwood Dynalite polished calipers I plan to run. I will need to fabricate caliper brackets but that really isn't too hard to do. I need the Wilwood master cylinder because I also have 11" Wilwood rear disc's for the 9" rear I need to narrow.
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I also took a shot of the 29/15/15 M/T SR rear tires I plan to run. The 26/8/15 in the pic are way too big for the front so tomorrow I'm picking up a pair of 24/5/15 SR's to run on the Centerline 3.5" wheels I have.
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Eye candy, that intake !
Wanna part with it ? :lol:
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Eye candy, that intake !
Wanna part with it ? :lol:
That wont fit a Boss anyhow ;) Actually I gotta get it powdercoated chrome still to go with the chrome bowls & polished scoop. I got outbid on 2 different Weiand mini-blowers & I just said "screw it" & went tunnel ram instead.
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Actually, the B2 I'm getting has a Shelby two 4 intake already.
I have a dumb idea floating around my head I should build a second Pinto. I already have the 302w with T-5. I bought a set of motor mounts for a 71-73 Pinto. I had been in touch with a couple fellows that have headers (if memory serves, they were not sure what year they were for ?)
I also have a line on two 9" locker diffs.
The 302w I have has stock heads. They would need replacing..... ..
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That's how I ended up with 4 Pinto's. I wanted one for a driver with a V8 & the '80 hatch was just too nice to tear up so I'm gonna keep the 2300 in her & make it my 11 year olds 1st car.
I bought the '78 coupe to put all my V8 parts on but once I dug into it I realized it made a better parts car due to the hidden rust I found. I paid $800 for it which is $300 too much but I will use or sell nearly every part of the car by the time I'm through.
I bought the '79 V8 car because it was too good of a deal to pass on but it isn't what I want & I'd be insane to change everything on the car to turn it into what I want so I'll drive it till the '73 is on the road then sell it after I make a few improvements to it.
I've seen the '73 on Craigslist for over a month but I just couldnt bring myself to buy a 4th Pinto project so I ignored it but it was an hour from my house so I just had to go see it. It's an ugly mother but it's clean & well worth the $700 I paid for it. I may even put the 2.0 & 4 speed back in it & drive it around for a while so I dont lose interest.
It's amazing how fast you end up with a fleet of cars in your driveway.
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I forgot I started a thread for my '73. Now that I bought the '76 wagon I'm not as pressed to get the '80 on the road & since I'm digging into this one once Callisto is rolling I'm guessing next fall is when I'll hit this one hard.
I was at Summit today & found a Milodon 30926 oil pan on the scratch & dent table. It's for the 351W but dimensionally it's identical to the 30925 pan other than leaving room to clear the larger main caps. I figure if I use the 302 pickup with this pan I'm good to go.
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Found a Ram 434 pressure plate 3 weeks ago in clearance for 40 bucks that fits my T-5 so all I need is a good 10 spline disc to go with it.
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Check the glass parts off my want list & I'm getting a serious bug to put this one together.
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I found this set of Wilwood brakes 140-10440-BD on Summit's clearance table for $400 bucks. I really didn't need them but that was too cheap to pass up. I already had Granada rotors & a set of Wilwood calipers for this car. I think I'll use the rotors on my wagon & run the GM metric calipers I have on 'em & save the Wilwood calipers for another day.
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I stumbled into the deal of a lifetime yesterday. A guy said he had a couple of NOS Pinto bumpers in his rafters if I wanted to take a look. $100 bucks got me a pair of early rears, one with holes & one smooth.
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I haven't touched this car for 2 years & had no plans to since it wasn't going to be needed anytime soon. That changed recently when I decided to get it running & press it into service for my stepson. He needs a car & I found a clean 72 sedan to replace this car so it's perfect for him.
I picked up a low mileage 2.0 & auto trans a few months ago that are perfect for this car.
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The cover came off for the 1st time in a year & we dug in. I have him sanding the old paint off the fenders & wire wheeling the engine compartment in preparation for paint & assembly work.
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I found a little rust hidden behind the drivers fender that's an easy fix but no surprises. I decided to keep the 4 wheel drum brakes so I bought a new master cylinder, 4 new wheel cylinders, new hoses, brake shoes & all new hardware for them. I also have a rebuilt rack & pinion, wheel bearings, tie rod ends & boxes of other parts to R&R this car.
I'll swap the clutch pedal into my 72 & put the auto pedal & shifter in here. I already installed the sport wheel in it. I'm hoping to have it on the road by September but there's a lot to do.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/72%20Pinto/P82A15381_zps6cdb2845.jpg)
Luckily I had rounded up most of the parts for this car ahead of time. I'm not using any NOS or mint parts incase it gets banged up. Both fenders will have dent repair, both doors & quarters will have patches welded due to rust & the hood has a few pinholes underneath.
I figure this way if it gets totaled (he totaled his mom's Cobalt already) I wont blow a gasket over flawless parts being destroyed. This is all stuff I would have tossed in the scrap pile anyhow. I figure I'll have about 3K in it & I'm gonna make him carry insurance that will pay me that 3K in the event of a wreck.
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You really are a glutton for punishment. ;D ;D ;D
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You really are a glutton for punishment. ;D ;D ;D
You have no idea.........
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Had my stepson take most of the paint off the fenders so I could get to work knocking out the dents & dings.
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Both bottoms were folded under on the fenders & there were too many dents to count. No rust on them but they were loaded with bondo from all the dents.
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I spent 5 hours with a hammer & dolly getting these as straight as possible.
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They look amazing considering what I started with.
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This was the worst of the dents. It had 3/4" of bondo in it & was caved in all the way to the marker light. It shouldn't take more than 1/16" of filler to make it perfect now. I wish I had a before pic.
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You can also see the crease where it was folded under but it's flat now & shouldn't even need filler.
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Came out good, 8) wish I could do body work.. ::)
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Looks great! I love doing the bodywork :) Hate the greasy stuff!
King Cobra gets finished today and a good start on the Spitfire :)
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Looks great! I love doing the bodywork :) Hate the greasy stuff!
Same here! :)
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Same here! :)
Now we just need to get Art to travel LOL
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Now we just need to get Art to travel LOL
Ain't that the truth?!?!? ;D
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For a Nominal per Diem , My OCD demeanor could be had for the Non mechanically inclined. However, it's not cheap and it must pay better than Futures Stock trading, No 1099 reporting will be tolerated :o
Have Wench, will unravel! :D
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Now we just need to get Art to travel LOL
Well now, if I could just get the money tree to grow!!!!............. ;D
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I don't mind bodywork until I hit something like this.
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The pinholes in the floor clued me in to a leaking vent but it turned out to be serious rust. This was a Florida car & never undercoated so a couple Ohio winters took it's toll on it.
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I hated the idea of cutting the cowl off but I really had no choice. Luckily none if the areas will show when I weld it back together. I have some POR 15 & top coat on order & I'll weld in the metal from the 80 I cut apart since that vent area is clean. All the seam sealer is history too.
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This car is gonna get driven & I didn't want to band aid it just to have to tear into it a couple years from now & fix it right.
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Ugly Yellow has rust under the cowl, though not that bad.
I was going to use a spot weld drill bit to remove the top.
Your way may be easier..... let me know how it goes.
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That sucks, but sometimes you don't know what's under it or inside of it. Well, you'll get it :)
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Wow that sucks big time, I couldn't deal withat stuff, lol.. :o :o
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Ugly Yellow has rust under the cowl, though not that bad.
I was going to use a spot weld drill bit to remove the top.
Your way may be easier..... let me know how it goes.
Drilling out the spot welds was going to be an insane amount of work for a driver so I took the easy way out. Once it's welded back in none of the areas I cut will show anyhow. It's definitely a ton of work but I can't halfass it since it will need done right in a couple years no matter what I do.
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After sandblasting the swiss cheese showed it's extent. Luckily the one from the 79 I just scrapped was perfect.
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I also cut out the rust on the drivers side under the cowl. It looks better now that the rust is gone.
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Cut this section from the 79 to replace it.
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I still have some minor trimming but it's close. Once I get all the metal replaced I'll POR15 the heck out of it.
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Got the corner welded in today. Some of my welding looks like crap but it will all be hidden anyhow.
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After welding I got to blasting everything clean.
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Tomorrows agenda will be POR 15 & more seam sealer. I did some areas already that had been clean from blasting.
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I'm busting my tail on this one but my OCD still forces me to overkill it on every step.
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LOL, I think we all overkill :)
Looking good though!
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LOL, I think we all overkill :)
Looking good though!
I was just planning to toss this together as cheaply as possible. It never fails that hidden stuff turns things into a nightmare. It's turned into a full blown project before my eyes & my OCD forces me to do it right.
I got the 1st coat of POR on it. I think my fingers are gonna be black for a month. This stuff does not come off skin!
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I epoxied the new vent in place. I still need to seam seal it after I'm done painting & I still need to weld in metal where the battery rusted the inner fender.
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It's definitely looking better than when I started but I need to get this thing on the road.
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Looks real good..
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I got everything seam sealed. It looks excessive but it's only 2 tubes thinly spread over the seams. The welding & the POR 15 closed up most seams but I want this to last a lifetime.
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I covered the cowl vent area because there were a dozen pinholes & some pitted steel that was close to rusting through that the blasting revealed.
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I welded new metal to attach the vent & sealed both sides. It's now all covered with POR & looks amazing considering the rot under here.
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The new corner is all sealed up & painted too.
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The passenger vent looks great & is ready for the heater box. I'm proud of myself on this one. Considering the Swiss cheese I started with that almost doomed this car I managed to save it with some panel bonding adhesive & the rust free vent from the 79 I scrapped.
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As for the heater box this car had factory A/C & the box was in bad shape. The non-A/C box from the 79 was perfect & fits perfectly after drilling 2 new holes for 2 of the studs. All other holes line up. I had no idea it was that simple.
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I flushed the core & it flows great & doesn't leak. I saved a ton of cash by salvaging the newer heater box.
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Your OCD going to let you re-install that heater without taking it apart & Por15ing the metal parts ? ;D
How bout the bare metal parts under the dash ? ;D
Floor pan ? ;D
Just trying to help , ya know ? ;D
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Your OCD going to let you re-install that heater without taking it apart & Por15ing the metal parts ? ;D
How bout the bare metal parts under the dash ? ;D
Floor pan ? ;D
Just trying to help , ya know ? ;D
LOL. yeah I plan to POR the metal on the heater box. Most of the under dash is going to get sprayed with cheap black in cans since it doesn't see salt or weather. I'm going to POR both sides of the floor pan. If it wasn't $150 a gallon I'd coat the whole car in it. It's good stuff.
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I welded up the battery tray.
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I also blasted the insides of the fenders & welded the emblem holes up.
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I coated the undersides of the fenders & hood in POR15.
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I also covered the undersides of the fenders with undercoating. I sure hope all this will save them from corrosion. If not I sure wasted a lot of time & money on nothing.
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Sand & paint any parts that will be exposed to sunlight.
Seems to me it says that in my instructions.
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Sand & paint any parts that will be exposed to sunlight.
Seems to me it says that in my instructions.
Yeah, I did 2 coats POR on the front clip then a coat of POR Blackcote for UV stability. Under the fenders I just did a single coat of POR15 because I planned to undercoat them heavily for rust & chip resistance. I'm going to Blackcote the underside of the hood over the single coat of POR. I let the POR flow into the drain holes at the front of the hood & along the edges & slowly turned it to get the stuff to coat all the inner areas that salt could potentially hit.
As long as he runs this car through a car wash with underbody spray about twice a month during the winter I think it will stay rust free indefinitely. The whole front clip is essentially dipped in this stuff & it's in every crack & crevice. I was thorough in my prep work & after blasting I used POR cleaner/degreaser then metal prep according to the instructions.
The only thing I would do different on my cars is to sand as much of the freshly blasted areas as I could to give it a better appearance. POR over blasted steel has a rough appearance. I also have the occasional grain of sand under the paint because I rushed things a bit but this is not a show car. On this car it's merely being used as a preservative to keep the car from rotting away during winter use. This car isn't nice enough to restore for summer/show duty but it's not rusted junk that's expendable either. For a 17 year old it should make a perfect all season runner.
The rust in the cowl combined with the gutted interior, factory drum brakes, pinholes in the quarters & hacked up tail light panel where the Cougar lights were would have relegated this to being chopped up for parts. My stepson needing a car & my stockpile of less than mint parts actually saved this car from the scrapyard. I'll still have well over 2K in it when it's done but it will be a nice car for what's in it that won't need a wrench turned for several years at least.
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Knew you would have your Ducks in a row ! ;D
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thinking about using either the line x or lizard skin bed liner on my street/strip car! the floor boards and under the car as under coating plus to try and keep the heat down while driving! a thought for that car for ya!
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All I can say is WOW!!
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Knew you would have your Ducks in a row ! ;D
Yeah I wanted to get this right the 1st time. Any mistakes I make here won't be repeated on my 71 or 72.
thinking about using either the line x or lizard skin bed liner on my street/strip car! the floor boards and under the car as under coating plus to try and keep the heat down while driving! a thought for that car for ya!
I'll splurge on sound deadener in my cars since I'll load them up with audio & subs. This one will get a basic deck with provisions for an iPod & about 180 watts total. If Paul wants to earn some money to upgrade his audio I'll install it later but he just wants a car.
All I can say is WOW!!
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Yeah, this came a long way already. I'm just glad most of it was solid. I would have cut it up for parts & scrap if I discovered all this rust as I was building it to be a V8 car. Now that I have the mint 72 shell to V8 all those parts I had for this car can go on that one.
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POR 15 brush on or spray ?
If spray, learn any tricks to get it on nice ?
Type of sprayer ?
Air pressure ?
Don't know anything about spraying paint etc.....
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This works great for patching small areas too..
http://www.por15.com/POWER-MESH-REINFORCING-FABRIC_p_75.html (http://www.por15.com/POWER-MESH-REINFORCING-FABRIC_p_75.html)
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POR 15 brush on or spray ?
If spray, learn any tricks to get it on nice ?
Type of sprayer ?
Air pressure ?
Don't know anything about spraying paint etc.....
I've been brushing it on. I bought the cheapest brushes I can find (3 for $1.00) & I use them once & throw them out. This stuff does not come out of anything once it starts to dry. It took nearly 2 weeks to wear off my hands & I started using disposable latex gloves. I refuse to spray it because I don't want to gum up my expensive guns.
Since this car isn't going to be a show car I have left my mistakes alone. It flows out as it cures & removes brush marks but on vertical surfaces it loves to run & sag & I have dozens of runs all over this car. I don't recommend applying it in the heat of the sun since it starts to cure & gets tacky REALLY quickly. I didn't have a choice but it's a bad idea & inside a garage in temps below 80 degrees would be ideal. Cover your floors with cardboard or plastic & apply it sparingly, thinner is better. I have easily wasted a pint or two due to rushing & less than ideal temps that made it cure too fast & too thick. This stuff is too expensive to waste but since this car will see road salt the excess isn't going to hurt anything.
If you sandblast like I did & want a smooth finish I'd sand everything after blasting then POR it. Anything that will see sunlight needs a topcoat because POR15 isn't UV stable. I topped mine with POR BlackCote. It's not cheap but it's good stuff. Keep the lip of the paint cans free of product. Both of these will glue the lids down but POR15 is like crazy glue. If you use the POR cleaner/degreaser & metal prep like I did wear latex gloves, they're nasty stuff. Any residue left behind (lint, sand, dirt, etc.) will show through the POR like a zit. If you want a smooth finish you must clean it as well as you would to paint the car. The recommended 2 coats POR with a single topcoat is thick. Keep that in mind where clearances are tight.
I did a lot of halfassing on this car & it's gonna show if you look close but it's a 4 season driver so it only matters as a teachable moment to me. I could have prepped better & taken more time to get it perfect & I will apply what I learned to my other cars.
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to thin out the por15 did you add thinner or reducer to it??
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to thin out the por15 did you add thinner or reducer to it??
They have their own solvent to thin it. It's pretty thin already & I think they only recommend 5% reduction with solvent.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/POR-15-Solvent-Quart-for-Thinning-POR15-/371112705019?hash=item56680a7bfb&item=371112705019&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/POR-15-Solvent-Quart-for-Thinning-POR15-/371112705019?hash=item56680a7bfb&item=371112705019&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr)
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Finally found time to blast the passenger side & tunnel. I would have POR'd it if the storm & floods had held off.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/73%20Pinto%20Pauls/P82A16961_zpsf62065c9.jpg)
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/73%20Pinto%20Pauls/P82A16951_zpsaf08b928.jpg)
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/73%20Pinto%20Pauls/ebe0b9d1-4d99-49e4-9815-f9869226da9d_zps2aebebc4.jpg)
Work is gonna start picking up this month. Finishing this is gonna be a fight to the end.
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See the brake line bracket, where the flex hose attaches. Now confirmed for me the long ones are for drum brake front ends. Like my blue parts car.
After I install the Wilwood kit on mine I will see if those longer brackets will work better for holding the flex hose off of the tie rod. Already took them off the blue car , blasted & painted.
Also see the oblong hole in front of that bracket ? Is/was that for some sort of transport tie down ? Ever see one that was made for that ?
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ALL pintos have those oblong holes for tie down. There's two more in the rear by the front spring eye's.
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See the brake line bracket, where the flex hose attaches. Now confirmed for me the long ones are for drum brake front ends.
I think my 72 has long ones & it has discs but I'll have to look closer & make sure
ALL pintos have those oblong holes for tie down. There's two more in the rear by the front spring eye's.
Yeah, they were designed for these T-style hold downs.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/3163-tow-hook-with-d-ring-j-hook-and-t-hook_1_640_zps6ac37c88.jpg)
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Where would a fellow get them ?
Would only need 2, I think.
I'll look at the back of my car later.....
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Here's a few styles
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macs-Custom-Tie-Downs-Cargo-Tie-Down-Anchor-T-Hook-Steel-Zinc-Plated-Ea-340003-/390880097772?hash=item5b0244f5ec&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macs-Custom-Tie-Downs-Cargo-Tie-Down-Anchor-T-Hook-Steel-Zinc-Plated-Ea-340003-/390880097772?hash=item5b0244f5ec&vxp=mtr)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Frame-Tie-Down-Hook-Grab-T-hook-/351040773511?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51bba91d87 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Frame-Tie-Down-Hook-Grab-T-hook-/351040773511?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51bba91d87)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/T-HOOK-with-CHAIN-SHACKLE-AUTO-BODY-FRAME-REPAIR-CAR-TRANSPORT-TIE-DOWN-made-USA-/121308355144?hash=item1c3e8a9a48&item=121308355144&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/T-HOOK-with-CHAIN-SHACKLE-AUTO-BODY-FRAME-REPAIR-CAR-TRANSPORT-TIE-DOWN-made-USA-/121308355144?hash=item1c3e8a9a48&item=121308355144&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-A-T-Hook-AUTO-BODY-FRAME-REPAIR-CAR-TRANSPORT-TIE-DOWN-Grade-70-Made-in-U-S-A-/121298367997?hash=item1c3df235fd&item=121298367997&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-A-T-Hook-AUTO-BODY-FRAME-REPAIR-CAR-TRANSPORT-TIE-DOWN-Grade-70-Made-in-U-S-A-/121298367997?hash=item1c3df235fd&item=121298367997&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr)
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Like the first one...but doesn't ship to Canada.....
Just had a look under the back of my car. The original frame rails have been cut out for the tubs.
So I'd need two....providi ng the oval part is the right dimensions to fit.
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Like the first one...but doesn't ship to Canada.....
Just had a look under the back of my car. The original frame rails have been cut out for the tubs.
So I'd need two....providi ng the oval part is the right dimensions to fit.
I think those oval slots were an industry standard for the car carriers.
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Junk yards use to be full of them on old car haulers. Every car spot had 4.
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Here's a couple shots of how they fit.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/P82A17051_zpsa259551c.jpg)
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/P82A17041_zps24aa9a38.jpg)
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Got the passenger side, crossmember & front of the tunnel all painted with 2 coats of POR. I have a few spots to seam seal tomorrow then I'll paint the top coat on & I can finally weld the cowl back on & start putting this car back together.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/P82A17121_zps047f0add.jpg)
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/P82A17091_zps2af31113.jpg)
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/P82A17071_zps3966310f.jpg)
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/P82A17061_zps44ed1d59.jpg)
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Looks good.. 8)
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Looks good.. 8)
Indeed it does!
Dwayne :)
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Here's a couple shots of how they fit.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/P82A17051_zpsa259551c.jpg)
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/P82A17041_zps24aa9a38.jpg)
They will work well !
I have to haul my car to pavement to drive it. Have about 6 miles of gravel I will not drive the car on.
Well.....if it ran I would have to !
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Finally got some serious progress. I blasted the underside of the cowl & POR'd it a few weeks ago.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A17141_zpsaf750226.jpg)
I lined it up & got it tacked into place.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A17161_zpsb79e5bd4.jpg)
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A17171_zps15a005ea.jpg)
I hit the welds lightly with a disc sander to smooth them & then covered them with some seam sealer.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A17191_zpsb0ca30fd.jpg)
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A17201_zps8bcd77d9.jpg)
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A17231_zps0489713d.jpg)
I also sealed around the patch where the battery tray was.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A17221_zps1ce7ce04.jpg)
The next thing on the list is BlackCote on the fresh POR & the seam sealer. Once dry I can start assembly.
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LOOKING GOOD!!
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Looks like it's coming along real good..
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Finally go some assembly going. Put the vent back in along with a good wiper motor.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A1727_zps8d00de22.jpg)
Also got the column support & automatic pedal installed. It's all shiny black POR & pretty.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A1734_zps469ddfbd.jpg)
The new master cylinder is in & hooked to the pedal. I need an adapter for the brake line but that's easy stuff.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A1731_zps8965e170.jpg)
The new rack is in & everything's painted.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A1733_zpsc4e7892e.jpg)
Also got the front latch support bolted in. I'm ready for the sheetmetal & some primer but I think I'll get the engine gaskets done & drop it in first. It will be easier with no fenders in my way.
(http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af357/OrangeCrushMustang/1973%20Pinto/P82A1735_zps087be138.jpg)
This is now a race to finish before the snow flies. God help me....