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« on: December 18, 2017, 09:03:37 PM »
I picked up this 2.0 header, I filled with water to test for leaks. it has one INSIDE this area where you can't really weld it. You think it would make a big deal as far has the sound or whatever ?
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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2017, 09:07:02 PM »
I also was going to use this one off my 71, but the way it was ( back welded - letting the metal overlap the wrong way ). I'm wondering if the flow could be restricted. I can see past the bend inside the header.
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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2017, 10:56:04 PM »
On the lower pictured header I assume someone used an undersized pipe and the edge there of is your concern? Meaning the overlap is in the wrong direction?  I'd think in an all out race engine buzzing at high RPMs with only a header it might be an issue. But, once you put a muffler on a street car it likely becomes a greater restriction point than the issue presented.  You probably only want a 2"-2-1/4" max anyway.

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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 09:35:37 AM »
I also was going to use this one off my 71, but the way it was ( back welded - letting the metal overlap the wrong way ). I'm wondering if the flow could be restricted. I can see past the bend inside the header.
That looks suspiciously like my Hooker Super Comp header with a new collector added to turn the flow parallel to the chassis. Mine is heavily brazed at the collector where the tubes enter. An attempt to avoid leaks , I would imagine. Mine cracks at the  head flange on #4 cylinder, ended up splicing a new more gradual bend to the flange. Haven't tried it yet to see if it works.  If it is a Hooker, Look for the engraved Hooker logo. These are rare!
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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 09:57:30 AM »
The header in the first picture is a Hedman two piece header and is the very best header for a 2.0L Pinto as it will almost never crack like any one piece header will. I used one for 20 years on my race car Pinto with only one small crack. BTW read my header damage post under FAQ then tech tips. Read that and you'll never worry about header bo bo's.
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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2017, 03:02:31 PM »
On the lower pictured header I assume someone used an undersized pipe and the edge there of is your concern? Meaning the overlap is in the wrong direction?  I'd think in an all out race engine buzzing at high RPMs with only a header it might be an issue. But, once you put a muffler on a street car it likely becomes a greater restriction point than the issue presented.  You probably only want a 2"-2-1/4" max anyway.

Thanks, I'm not making a race car here, Just want a better sound and good looks when I pop the hood, I also picked up a new Thrush Hush Muffler with the header, all for $50
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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2017, 03:08:13 PM »
That looks suspiciously like my Hooker Super Comp header with a new collector added to turn the flow parallel to the chassis. Mine is heavily brazed at the collector where the tubes enter. An attempt to avoid leaks , I would imagine. Mine cracks at the  head flange on #4 cylinder, ended up splicing a new more gradual bend to the flange. Haven't tried it yet to see if it works.  If it is a Hooker, Look for the engraved Hooker logo. These are rare!

The White one I'm holding is on the Captain America 71 Pinto at the  moment, I have to watch for speed bumps, hangs pretty low to the ground. I was thinking of hooking a square metal block to the unibody area to give the header some protection from the speed bumps. so you guy are saying the white one might be a hooker header, and the rusty one is a headman?
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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2017, 03:09:39 PM »
The header in the first picture is a Hedman two piece header and is the very best header for a 2.0L Pinto as it will almost never crack like any one piece header will. I used one for 20 years on my race car Pinto with only one small crack. BTW read my header damage post under FAQ then tech tips. Read that and you'll never worry about header bo bo's.

Post that link for me? I'm having a hard time finding it  :-\ .
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2017, 03:38:58 PM »
FAQ then tech tips.
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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2017, 04:18:10 PM »
The White one I'm holding is on the Captain America 71 Pinto at the  moment, I have to watch for speed bumps, hangs pretty low to the ground. I was thinking of hooking a square metal block to the unibody area to give the header some protection from the speed bumps. so you guy are saying the white one might be a hooker header, and the rusty one is a headman?
Yes , that's what it looks to be for the White one ( Hooker), But there's a chance it's been modded at the collector to mate with a exhaust system. Hooker points to the ground on my car with flange.  The other half of the flange is seriously changed to tuck in my tunneled floor pan  for side exit under door.
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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2017, 12:55:06 PM »
Yes , that's what it looks to be for the White one ( Hooker), But there's a chance it's been modded at the collector to mate with a exhaust system. Hooker points to the ground on my car with flange.  The other half of the flange is seriously changed to tuck in my tunneled floor pan  for side exit under door.

I seen this one a while back on google, it's like my white one but dumps to the ground, mine was probably mess with before.
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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2017, 12:59:34 PM »
I seen this one a while back on google, it's like my white one but dumps to the ground, mine was probably mess with before.
Yep , that's a Hooker Super Comp for the 2.0L, Mine is identical except for the reinforcement
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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2017, 08:04:03 PM »
So my white header is the Hooker super comp that was worked on.  I found this link that shows the Rusty Headman i also got, and it says not to weld, but mine is welded. http://www.bob2000.com/pinto2.htm
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Re: Header Install help
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2017, 12:03:39 PM »
The Hedman is still the very best header for a 2.0L Pinto bar none. The end of the collector comes out right in the driveshaft tunnel for a super easy exhaust pipe hook up. The fit is very good and much better than the Hooker which points down at the ground and requires a sharp bend of the tail pipe to hook up to the collector.
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