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EFI vs Carb
« on: August 14, 2015, 10:41:26 PM »
I have a 1977 Pinto Cruizin Wagon with tired 2.3L with 4 speed manual trans. Just bought a 1986 Ford Ranger rust bucket with overhauled 2.3 EFI and 5 speed 2wd. Want to swap the 86 engine into the Pinto. Wandering about leaving the EFI or using the old carb and intake from Pinto. Is there any wiring tricks to leaving the EFI system? Don't know if I can use the 5 speed OD trans from the Ranger. Any suggestions.
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Re: EFI vs Carb
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2015, 12:32:07 AM »
I know there are posts about using the efi here somewhere. Not a huge problem if you are comfortable with wiring.
As far as the Ranger trans, the shifter on those is practically in the dash on a Pinto. Again, I think there has been talk of that here somewhere. Many years ago I asked about that and decided to pass.

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Re: EFI vs Carb
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2015, 01:17:17 AM »
The swapping of the motor/trans. is pretty straight forward. The wiring shouldn't be a big deal, if you are familiar with working with wires. The trans. (if it's a t5), could be made to work with a tail shaft housing swap, to get the shifter position closer. It will still need some trimming at the shift hole. The major issue seems to be clearing the efi intake under the hood. It's been done but it's tight. You can get a rotated/lowered upper efi intake to clear the hood. There will be minor fabbing and "adjustments", but nothing big, and the work will be worth the effort.
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Re: EFI vs Carb
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2015, 06:40:18 AM »
Installing the EFI will be more involved but the final product should be more daily driver friendly, in my opinion.  The 86 Ranger 2.3 head should have D shaped intake ports while the Pinto carb intake has oval ports.  This port mismatch may work but I would be worried about fuel puddling at the mismatch.  If pursued, maybe some epoxy on the intake manifold floor could fix the mismatch. 

As mentioned in above posts, the Ranger shifter will probably be too far forward.  The links below show some more alternatives for relocating the shifter, scroll down some in each.  If this is more work than desired, the original Pinto 4 speed could be retained or go for a Mustang 2.3 T5 .
http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=23775.msg145697#msg145697
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/ford-duratec-engine-and-5-speed.650740/
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Re: EFI vs Carb
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2015, 08:01:20 AM »
It's worth it to me anyway. If you do this, expect some mods and your hood won't fit it, at least it's not in my 79. I've also gone with a A4LD.

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Re: EFI vs Carb
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2015, 12:19:42 PM »
Thanks guys for all the input. I have done a lot of wiring on my old restoration cars but have not worked with an EFI system. At this point I don't know which trans is in the Ranger, but I think it may be the Jap one. I will confirm that very soon. The overdrive would be nice, but I may just stick with the old 4 speed.
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Re: EFI vs Carb
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2015, 02:34:45 PM »
It's not so hard to,wire up the efi , and it's worth the effort to do so, easy starting hot or cold , better MPG , a few extra ponys ,  as for the ranger trans the clutch is Hyd , the pinto uses a cable , for overdrive use the Mercur Scorpio type 9 trans , it will bolt to your belhouseing and shifter will stay in the same place and it's a five speed overdrive , the one you have is a type "E" ,  you can google it to see it , good luck on your project ,
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