PINTO CAR CLUB of AMERICA
Shiny is Good! => Your Project => Topic started by: Tonycando on December 05, 2020, 02:00:38 PM
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I’ve been digging around but with the short hood on our car what have you guys put on your cars for a cowl scoop. ??
Thanks
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My white car needs one. The one on it was mounted too far forward.
I'm just going to take some min measurements & get one that will work with the K&N filter I have.
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i had never paid much attention to my scoop since i put it on 20 years ago but it is essentially a mach one scoop just a tiny bit smaller .. i had to make a hole in my hood for the breather to poke thru ..
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Most of the cowl scoops I fingered are well into the 40” and longer, I’m figuring that probably 30 “ would fit nice but can’t find one ..would need min 4” tall
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Opps ! Just read bolt on.....Don't think I've ever seen a bigger one for bolt on.
Mine needs to be 6" if I remember right.
Yes, they are made long, but looking at them, it looks like they can be cut shorter ?
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6” would be my choice also but depending on where the curve comes up on the cowl 4” would maybe work,I’d rather not buy and then work on it so I’ll continue my search.
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Has anyone ever put a teardrop scoop on a Pinto,curious how this would look. Might have to. Uh one just to see..
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Just looked at some on line & the curve looks like it may set too far forward ?
I know on my car the carb/air cleaner is way back....will take pics later & measurements.
Waiting on day light before heading to the shop...
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Had to cut the old scoop to get the hood on. That is a (too small) 9" K&N filter.
To the engine compartment seal surface it is 5 3/4" or 10 1/2" to carb center
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Absolute min scoop height for mine will have to be 5" , but 6" will be better.
The hood support under the back will also need some cut out, so a bigger air filter can be used.
Blue car will be much worse for clearance.
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Blue car. Carb has 1" to the cowl lip.
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Yep. Looks like it won’t work.
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I know very little about 351C engines.... but are they taller I think ?
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Yes taller,I set my engine according to the header clearance,as far back as possible to maintain rack clearance..My cleaner is 5” from the cowl
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What really blows is my alum rad comes in today and the shipped me a 26” instead of a 24” wide unit by mistake,bummer is they don’t have anymore 24” units.back to the drawing board I guess.
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Mine is 28 1/2" wide, 19 1/2" tall and 3 1/4" thick.
The tabs sticking out on the front of the frame rails were bent over (or cut off & welded up).
The bumper brackets were modified. The straight pieces were cut off at the end on the frame rails & another piece welded to the outside piece.
This pic is the one off of the blue car.
(https://i.imgur.com/IUrRiZa.jpg)
The hood was modified to get the Radiator higher.
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If you need more pictures let me know.
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Top view of radiator
(https://i.imgur.com/E6eHoM1.jpg)
Right bumper bracket
(https://i.imgur.com/72KayC0.jpg)
Right side radiator / bottom support
(https://i.imgur.com/XRM7ChA.jpg)
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Yes might work still with mine. Just wanted to be between the front tabs is all.
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So did your top nose go through the rad support and the lower hose go under the front frame and then up to the pump ? ,with this one they sent me I’ll have to cut the front valance for the rad to drop down ?
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I've had to cut the valance on all the cars I did. However, if you cut the hood bump out & mount the radiator higher, you may get away with no, or very little cutting.
In line thermostat
(https://i.imgur.com/8mt4AIX.jpg)
Had to make a 45 for the lower radiator hose. Cut it & had a shop in town tig a bead on each end to hold the hose on.
Last radiator didn't need this as it was more narrow.
(https://i.imgur.com/84iWuTG.jpg)
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If you left click the pics they should show bigger. No idea what will happen with those new fangled phones.....I still use a flip phone ;D
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I’ll have to measure that up ,I’m pretty sure it can’t go to high without the frame interfering with the lower hose I’m thinking that will dictate the height. I’ll play with it in Sat
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A while back, someone on this site mentioned showcars unlimited in Foxboro, Ontario as they make hood scoops, body cladding, and air dams for Ford Pintos. I am working with them in reproducting a lower front valance panel for my 1980 Pinto. You might want to contact them or look at his website for suggestions. Although he has been receptive and communicative with me, but I am unable to say anything as for his work as I am still in the early stages with him as for the valance panel. His name is Rob and his website can be found by googling Showcars unlimited Foxboro Ont.
Happy Motoring,
Dan
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Thanks Dan
I’ve spoke with him and he offers a hood and I asked for pics as it’s not on his website or I couldn’t find it but have not got a response back from him ? If what he has fits my vision I have for my build I would have bought it already but was not sure how his product is if his response is like it is.
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Lots of bad reviews on line about Showcars unlimited Foxboro Ont.
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Now, I am worried about my Valance project...i was concerned about the primitive website he has, but when I spoke with him, I figured he wasn't all that tech-saavy which is common with a number of old school mechanics. I noticed from my communications with him that he responds to his email address that has his name Rob in the email...I will look it up for you...it's something like rob@showcars etc. Thanks for bringing to my attention of the reviews and I will keep all of you posted as for my valance panel. I hope that I will see it again...sigh. Fingers crossed.
In the meantime, I will keep my eyes peeled for hood scoops for you.
Despite this possible hiccup, Happy Motoring,
Dan
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Tony - found these pictures this morning...
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Kinda what I’m looking for Also seen a pic of a black 71 with a over grown Boss 429 scoop that looked real. Ice.
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make it longer in the back and that is a good look .
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Looks like it already is up to the cowl ? I guess if the hood is pinned on that’s ok but hinged probably won’t work ?
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One left click & they pop up bigger.
Looks like the back is over the cowl some & only front pins.
I'll be in my shop later today. I'll lift the hood & take a pic or measurement of the clearance.
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Yes the top swoop over a bit but it dries not look right to me it out of proportion with the front end I think
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I agree. Took some pics etc anyway.....
Prop rod was shortened by original builder.
From center of radiator support to center of hood lip is 26"
Cardboard is taped onto my scoop & is 4 3/4" high over the cowl.
Clearance over cowl with hood up is 4 1/4"
(https://i.imgur.com/w9r3muL.jpg)
Using a steak (Lath) to hold the hood up front center at 41 1/2" high.
Back has 1 3/4" clearance. (very close to wiper, but I need a higher one anyway)
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Posting for Tony
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One of the nicest Pintos I’ve seen. It needs a bigger tire IMHO. But that scoop is perfect,looks like a modified Boss 429 scoop. Anyone know this car or if that scoop is available ?
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Type into Google: BOSS 429 Hood Scoop & lots of hits.
Here is one: https://www.cjponyparts.com/hood-scoop-fiberglass-unpainted-bolt-on-boss-429-1969-1970/p/HDSC3/
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Been down that search. That one looks different then the one on the car
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Found one on eBay that’s 5” tall and 26” long. I think it should be the one. I’ll post pics when it gets here.
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Has anyone ever put a teardrop scoop on a Pinto,curious how this would look. Might have to. Uh one just to see..
You mean like the one on a T-Bolt? They're generally too long and just don't fit. What I was going to do before a fiberglass cowl hood fell into my lap was use a scoop for a '70 AMX and mount it backward. Forward could work, too.