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Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« on: December 05, 2020, 02:00:38 PM »
Iíve been digging around but with the short hood on our car what have you guys put on your cars for a cowl scoop. ??

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2020, 05:56:14 AM »
My white car needs one. The one on it was mounted too far forward.

I'm just going to take some min measurements & get one that will work with the K&N filter I have.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2020, 07:53:54 AM »
i had never paid much attention to my scoop since i put it on 20 years ago but it is essentially a mach one scoop just a tiny bit smaller .. i had to make a hole in my hood for the breather to poke thru ..

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2020, 09:27:33 AM »
Most of the cowl scoops I fingered are well into the 40Ē and longer, Iím figuring that probably 30 ď would fit nice but canít find one ..would need min 4Ē tall

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2020, 10:05:49 AM »
Opps ! Just read bolt on.....Don't think I've ever seen a bigger one for bolt on.

Mine needs to be 6" if I remember right.

Yes, they are made long, but looking at them, it looks like they can be cut shorter ?

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2020, 10:14:37 AM »
6Ē would be my choice also but depending on where the curve comes up on the cowl 4Ē would maybe work,Iíd rather not buy and then work on it so Iíll continue my search.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2020, 09:51:02 PM »
Has anyone ever put a teardrop scoop on a Pinto,curious how this would look. Might have to. Uh one just to see..

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2020, 08:14:48 AM »
Just looked at some on line & the curve looks like it may set too far forward ?

I know on my car the carb/air cleaner is way back....will take pics later & measurements.
Waiting on day light before heading to the shop...

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2020, 11:00:39 AM »
Had to cut the old scoop to get the hood on. That is a (too small) 9" K&N filter.
To the engine compartment seal surface it is 5 3/4"  or 10 1/2" to carb center





Absolute min scoop height for mine will have to be 5" , but 6" will be better.
The hood support under the back will also need some cut out, so a bigger air filter can be used.

Blue car will be much worse for clearance.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2020, 11:19:23 AM »
Blue car. Carb has 1" to the cowl lip.




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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2020, 12:20:46 PM »
Yep. Looks like it wonít work.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2020, 06:41:49 AM »
I know very little about 351C engines.... but are they taller I think ?

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2020, 07:55:25 AM »
Yes taller,I set my engine according to the header clearance,as far back as possible to maintain rack clearance..My cleaner is 5Ē from the cowl

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2020, 03:04:42 PM »
What really blows is my alum rad comes in today and the shipped me a 26Ē instead of a 24Ē wide unit by mistake,bummer is they donít have anymore 24Ē units.back to the drawing board I guess.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2020, 09:36:31 AM »
Mine is 28 1/2" wide, 19 1/2" tall and 3 1/4" thick.

The tabs sticking out on the front of the frame rails were bent over (or cut off & welded up).
The bumper brackets were modified. The straight pieces were cut off at the end on the frame rails & another piece welded to the outside piece.
This pic is the one off of the blue car.




The hood was modified to get the Radiator higher.





If you need more pictures let me know.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2020, 09:52:19 AM »
Top view of radiator



Right bumper bracket



Right side radiator / bottom support


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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2020, 10:06:02 AM »
Yes might work still with mine. Just wanted to be between the front tabs is all. 

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2020, 09:00:35 PM »
So did your top nose go through the rad support and the lower hose go under the front frame and then up to the pump ? ,with this one they sent me Iíll have to cut the front valance for the rad to drop down ?

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2020, 11:41:32 AM »
I've had to cut the valance on all the cars I did. However, if you cut the hood bump out & mount the radiator higher, you may get away with no, or very little cutting.
In line thermostat



Had to make a 45 for the lower radiator hose. Cut it & had a shop in town tig a bead on each end to hold the hose on.
Last radiator didn't need this as it was more narrow.







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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2020, 10:54:34 PM »
Iíll have to measure that up ,Iím pretty sure it canít go to high without the frame interfering with the lower hose  Iím thinking that will dictate the height. Iíll play with it in Sat 

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2020, 04:38:22 PM »
A while back, someone on this site mentioned showcars unlimited in Foxboro, Ontario as they make hood scoops, body cladding, and air dams for Ford Pintos. I am working with them in reproducting a lower front valance panel for my 1980 Pinto. You might want to contact them or look at his website for suggestions. Although he has been receptive and communicative with me, but I am unable to say anything as for his work as I am still in the early stages with him as for the valance panel. His name is Rob and his website can be found by googling Showcars unlimited Foxboro Ont.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2020, 07:02:47 PM »
Thanks Dan
Iíve spoke with him and he offers a hood and I asked for pics as itís not on his website or I couldnít find it but have not got a response back from him  ? If what he has fits my vision I have for my build I would have bought it already but was not sure how his product is if his response is like it is.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2020, 05:33:07 AM »
Lots of bad reviews on line about Showcars unlimited Foxboro Ont.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2020, 07:30:09 AM »
Now, I am worried about my Valance project...i was concerned about the primitive website he has, but when I spoke with him, I figured he wasn't all that tech-saavy which is common with a number of old school mechanics. I noticed from my communications with him that he responds to his email address that has his name Rob in the email...I will look it up for you...it's something like rob@showcars etc. Thanks for bringing to my attention of the reviews and I will keep all of you posted as for my valance panel. I hope that I will see it again...sigh. Fingers crossed.

In the meantime, I will keep my eyes peeled for hood scoops for you.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2020, 05:39:43 AM »
Tony - found these pictures this morning...






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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2020, 08:25:01 AM »
Kinda what Iím looking for   Also seen a pic of a black 71 with a over grown Boss 429 scoop that looked real. Ice.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2020, 02:10:27 PM »
make it longer in the back and that is a good look .

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2020, 02:19:30 PM »
Looks like it already is up to the cowl  ? I guess if the hood is pinned on thatís ok but hinged probably wonít work ?

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2020, 05:47:37 AM »
One left click & they pop up bigger.

Looks like the back is over the cowl some & only front pins.

I'll be in my shop later today. I'll lift the hood & take a pic or measurement of the clearance.

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Re: Bolt on Cowl scoop?
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2020, 10:57:48 AM »
Yes the top swoop over a bit but it dries not look right to me  it out of proportion with the front end I think