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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #270 on: March 25, 2020, 03:16:36 PM »
Pan ? Explain more & I'll take pictures...

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #271 on: March 25, 2020, 04:22:42 PM »
I'd like to see a picture of the oil pan you're using with it in the car to see what kind of clearance there is. My MII pan in the '71 had maybe an inch? maybe?  in front of and above the rack. The '77 power steering rack is bigger so.....
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #272 on: March 26, 2020, 03:20:13 PM »
Motor isn't where it's going to be. The aluminum bell I have on has ribs & a raised area where the clutch fork goes & I cannot get it back far enough, till I get the new Quick Time Bell # 6065.
Right now it's about 1/4" above the rack. It will be going back another 1.5" to 2" yet.
Going to make my own Headers & sell the two sets of Headman Headers I have.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #273 on: April 02, 2020, 11:56:11 AM »
Drives me buggy when folks strip a car & send that roller to scrap. Just because they want it to roll.

Many parts can no longer be found.

Not sure what the name of these are - clip nuts ?
They are for the upper control arms. Clip into place & bolts go through the control arm - 1972.

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Self etch primer & paint = better & more rust proofed than what Ford did.







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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #274 on: April 03, 2020, 08:42:33 AM »
This remonds me of my first V-8 pinto I done back in 72 , used a 289 , only thing bad it was to long and I did not want to cut the rad support , noticed you have the long damper and the one I used was short , and had three bolts , saved a inch there , then a fellow working for my dad should me a trick to shorten the water pump by pushing the bearing into the water pump two inchs or more after machineing the nose off the water pump housing , did everything to shorten the engine (had a machine shop ) and it worked , still used the stock hood latch , now I guess the ford exploer 5.0 timing cover and pump may do the same , on a Pinto engine swap every inch counts ,, been there ,
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #275 on: April 03, 2020, 10:12:25 AM »
I use the Ford Racing short water pump & CVF Racing V pulleys meant for this system . Saves 1.5"

I had no choice on the B2 damper.

Next one will be a 302w & likely an after market damper.
Plus I'm moving the engine way back & should be able to get a radiator behind the rad support.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #276 on: April 03, 2020, 12:26:11 PM »
Guess picking the right parts to make it work can be very trying ,  wish I had photos to share but long since gone after 45 years ,a couple of divorces and a house fire you lose memories and most of your mind , know I made it work , with the excellent job that your doing to make it perfect any info will help from the past ,, what I do remember that the best damper (at least for 71 to 73 ) was the thin one , three bolt with a flat pulley , the one I use was off a dealer installed A/C that was cast iron and three groves , machined off two of them , the water pump after the mods done to it made the edge almost touched the water inlet on the pump after the bearing and flange was pushed to almost touch the seal inside the pump ,(or see it at the weep hole one the side , somehow the belt lined up and the back of the alternator just missed the back of the block ,  the radiator support brackets I put on backwards so I could make spacers to move it forward to the max to save space , the fan was a flex one with it bolted straght to the pump , guess some one will see this post and have a pile of 302 pumps and covers to see what is shorter , their is some company that did make a real short pump and pulley set up , dont know if they are still around but will check and post if they are to save time and gray hair pulling , later and stay safe , Blaine
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #277 on: April 03, 2020, 12:56:04 PM »
found it , its made by snow white industries , this looks like it useing the damper you have , its a two grove pulley but you can machine one off , they say it is two inchs shorter , hope this will help some , later Blaine
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #278 on: June 03, 2020, 12:53:31 PM »
Worked on the motor mounts.
I still have more welding to do after the engine comes out.
I also will be adding a small pipe that the bolt will go through& weld in
Welding is hard in tight areas. That will be corrected...






Motor center line to diff set up perfect. Had to off set the front of the engine 3/8" to the right , to get the proper alignment.
Car is level front to back & side to side.
Carb flange tilts back 3.5 degrees. Will be level when car is done.
Engine level as well.







Next will be the trans mount. Waiting on a new mount from Ford. Then I'll make the cross member.
After that ,I'll make custom Headers - cross overs.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #279 on: June 17, 2020, 09:52:06 AM »
New mount came in & I bolted it in place.
I have looked things over a number of times & I have the rest of the mount figured out.....just have to make it !

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #280 on: June 18, 2020, 10:03:49 AM »
Nice job on the engine mount brackits , hope you used a very common engine mount in case you need one in the future , I know the mustang II mounts are gold now and worst since they have a left and a right , also noticed your mount bolt is too short , Guess working on aircraft I see details like that , we always have the shank of the bolt in shear and use washer to space the nut to the threads and not have any load on the threads , looking at the perfect work your doing it should be art that could be hung on the wall to be admired .
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #281 on: June 18, 2020, 03:47:31 PM »
I didn't have longer bolts on hand.
Know what you mean though.

The rubber mounts are now hard to get now, from my searches for them.
But at my age I'm not worried about them  ;D

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #282 on: July 05, 2020, 09:21:19 AM »
Finally had some rain days so I built a trans mount.
I still have welding & brackets to make & weld in......after the engine / trans are out of the car.
It is all supported by the mounts now.
Car is level & engine tilts back 3.5 degrees.
Alignment is perfect front to back for the engine / trans.
Had to off set the engine 3/8" to the right to get this perfect.