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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #270 on: March 25, 2020, 03:16:36 PM »
Pan ? Explain more & I'll take pictures...

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #271 on: March 25, 2020, 04:22:42 PM »
I'd like to see a picture of the oil pan you're using with it in the car to see what kind of clearance there is. My MII pan in the '71 had maybe an inch? maybe?  in front of and above the rack. The '77 power steering rack is bigger so.....
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #272 on: March 26, 2020, 03:20:13 PM »
Motor isn't where it's going to be. The aluminum bell I have on has ribs & a raised area where the clutch fork goes & I cannot get it back far enough, till I get the new Quick Time Bell # 6065.
Right now it's about 1/4" above the rack. It will be going back another 1.5" to 2" yet.
Going to make my own Headers & sell the two sets of Headman Headers I have.
New rack from Flaming River.








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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #273 on: April 02, 2020, 11:56:11 AM »
Drives me buggy when folks strip a car & send that roller to scrap. Just because they want it to roll.

Many parts can no longer be found.

Not sure what the name of these are - clip nuts ?
They are for the upper control arms. Clip into place & bolts go through the control arm - 1972.

Being on a tight budgit right now...looked up home made rust removal.
Mixed Vinegar & salt. Soaked 3-4 days & washed up.
Buffed on my bench grinder with wire wheel.
Self etch primer & paint = better & more rust proofed than what Ford did.







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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #274 on: April 03, 2020, 08:42:33 AM »
This remonds me of my first V-8 pinto I done back in 72 , used a 289 , only thing bad it was to long and I did not want to cut the rad support , noticed you have the long damper and the one I used was short , and had three bolts , saved a inch there , then a fellow working for my dad should me a trick to shorten the water pump by pushing the bearing into the water pump two inchs or more after machineing the nose off the water pump housing , did everything to shorten the engine (had a machine shop ) and it worked , still used the stock hood latch , now I guess the ford exploer 5.0 timing cover and pump may do the same , on a Pinto engine swap every inch counts ,, been there ,
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #275 on: April 03, 2020, 10:12:25 AM »
I use the Ford Racing short water pump & CVF Racing V pulleys meant for this system . Saves 1.5"

I had no choice on the B2 damper.

Next one will be a 302w & likely an after market damper.
Plus I'm moving the engine way back & should be able to get a radiator behind the rad support.

Going to custom make a set of Headers : That is why I put the two sets of Headman Headers up for trade.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #276 on: April 03, 2020, 12:26:11 PM »
Guess picking the right parts to make it work can be very trying ,  wish I had photos to share but long since gone after 45 years ,a couple of divorces and a house fire you lose memories and most of your mind , know I made it work , with the excellent job that your doing to make it perfect any info will help from the past ,, what I do remember that the best damper (at least for 71 to 73 ) was the thin one , three bolt with a flat pulley , the one I use was off a dealer installed A/C that was cast iron and three groves , machined off two of them , the water pump after the mods done to it made the edge almost touched the water inlet on the pump after the bearing and flange was pushed to almost touch the seal inside the pump ,(or see it at the weep hole one the side , somehow the belt lined up and the back of the alternator just missed the back of the block ,  the radiator support brackets I put on backwards so I could make spacers to move it forward to the max to save space , the fan was a flex one with it bolted straght to the pump , guess some one will see this post and have a pile of 302 pumps and covers to see what is shorter , their is some company that did make a real short pump and pulley set up , dont know if they are still around but will check and post if they are to save time and gray hair pulling , later and stay safe , Blaine
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #277 on: April 03, 2020, 12:56:04 PM »
found it , its made by snow white industries , this looks like it useing the damper you have , its a two grove pulley but you can machine one off , they say it is two inchs shorter , hope this will help some , later Blaine
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #278 on: June 03, 2020, 12:53:31 PM »
Worked on the motor mounts.
I still have more welding to do after the engine comes out.
I also will be adding a small pipe that the bolt will go through& weld in
Welding is hard in tight areas. That will be corrected...






Motor center line to diff set up perfect. Had to off set the front of the engine 3/8" to the right , to get the proper alignment.
Car is level front to back & side to side.
Carb flange tilts back 3.5 degrees. Will be level when car is done.
Engine level as well.







Next will be the trans mount. Waiting on a new mount from Ford. Then I'll make the cross member.
After that ,I'll make custom Headers - cross overs.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #279 on: June 17, 2020, 09:52:06 AM »
New mount came in & I bolted it in place.
I have looked things over a number of times & I have the rest of the mount figured out.....just have to make it !

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #280 on: June 18, 2020, 10:03:49 AM »
Nice job on the engine mount brackits , hope you used a very common engine mount in case you need one in the future , I know the mustang II mounts are gold now and worst since they have a left and a right , also noticed your mount bolt is too short , Guess working on aircraft I see details like that , we always have the shank of the bolt in shear and use washer to space the nut to the threads and not have any load on the threads , looking at the perfect work your doing it should be art that could be hung on the wall to be admired .
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #281 on: June 18, 2020, 03:47:31 PM »
I didn't have longer bolts on hand.
Know what you mean though.

The rubber mounts are now hard to get now, from my searches for them.
But at my age I'm not worried about them  ;D

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #282 on: July 05, 2020, 09:21:19 AM »
Finally had some rain days so I built a trans mount.
I still have welding & brackets to make & weld in......after the engine / trans are out of the car.
It is all supported by the mounts now.
Car is level & engine tilts back 3.5 degrees.
Alignment is perfect front to back for the engine / trans.
Had to off set the engine 3/8" to the right to get this perfect.


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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #283 on: December 13, 2020, 12:05:11 PM »
With Tony getting back to work on his 351C car......may have motivated me to get back at this one.
Getting set up to try my hand at Headers building....Fi rst time !
I have two sets of Headman Headers. Tried to sell them & no one wanted to pay the price.
If had sold them, the money would have gone straight back into buying new pipe anyway.....



Need to re-cover the white car & clean up a few parts/things & ....mig moved closer as well......


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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #284 on: December 13, 2020, 03:43:03 PM »
Right on. Your eyes must be better than mine cause I can’t weld anymore. Now I build tack and get the son-in-law to finish for me. My cataracts are bad for the light. Lol. We will have to get the cars together one day for sure   

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #285 on: December 13, 2020, 04:31:41 PM »
Count me in as for the garage!😀 We should pool our loose change for the next powerball lotto so we all can get our garage Taj Mahal of our dreams!

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #286 on: December 13, 2020, 07:03:47 PM »
Im in on the lotto for sure

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #287 on: December 14, 2020, 05:28:11 AM »
Last time to the optometrist he said I'd get cataracts in the near future.
For now I have a dozen sets of drug store glasses around the shop. Ones I have on right now are 1.75

I'll likely just tack weld them all together & take them to town & have a guy Tig weld them to finish. My Mig (and skills ?) may not be up for the task ? Shall see.... 

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #288 on: December 14, 2020, 07:36:48 AM »
I know that I am late in the game, but I couldn't open your photobucket link to view your project...ehem, and ummm, err, well to see the redhead as well. Is it because I do not have an account with Photobucket?

Your project sound interesting and I wish you all the success in the world! 😀

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #289 on: December 14, 2020, 08:35:56 AM »
I know that I am late in the game, but I couldn't open your photobucket link to view your project...ehem, and ummm, err, well to see the redhead as well. Is it because I do not have an account with Photobucket?

Your project sound interesting and I wish you all the success in the world! 😀

Happy Motoring,
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Redhead ?

I have not used Pbucket since they went to the give me all your money deal....lost a pile of pictures.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #290 on: December 14, 2020, 10:32:33 AM »
pbucket has a ton of my photos that i cant access anymore .. they told me i was over my " free hosting " limit  so i deleted a bunch of them and they still kept giving me the same message ..  there was no hosting limit when i started ... 

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #291 on: December 14, 2020, 10:52:18 AM »
Photo Bucket seems to be one of the biggest internet "bait & switch - kidnappings" of all time. People stored/linked all their photos for free and then one day all of a sudden you have to pay to access them. I heard $39.99 a month (but not confirmed). Sad way to run a business.

As a side note: There was a guy who wrote a book on the Sunbeam Tiger. It sold for somewhere between $35-$50 when released in 1994. The printer folded and destroyed all the plates. After the original 1,000 book order sold (and it took some time to do) he couldn't get it reprinted without considerable expense. And for whatever reason (known only to him) he will not allow digital copies to be made/sold. This has driven the typical price of the book up to about $1,500 and in one E-Bay bidding war up to $3,455! And it is common that only one book to becomes available in any given year So, regardless of the medium, rights and control over images seem a tricky situation and beware of what you are signing up for.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #292 on: December 15, 2020, 07:12:50 AM »
Anyone ever have anything to do with/knowledge of Tri Y Headers ?

Every time I look at the engine bay, I'm having a hard time figuring out where four tubes will go.
Was going to do cross overs.....but now thinking I should go Tri Y.......

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #293 on: December 15, 2020, 10:02:01 AM »
Reason I ask is, I know I can mod a set to work in my car easy.

SDK-C5ZZ-9430-BK

Cheap & I wouldn't have to cut up the Headman Headers I have.
I could cut the Tri y below where they join & re-make the section from there to before the collectors.

Thoughts ?

I'd put the Headmans up for sale/trade , again.......

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #294 on: December 15, 2020, 08:01:14 PM »
I think as long as you give the pipes a good smooth merge they will work just fine,I have a pic I kept some where the looked like they would flow real good,I’ll dig it up and send it your way.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #295 on: December 16, 2020, 07:47:37 AM »
Not the greatest picture of the above Headers....

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #296 on: December 16, 2020, 08:09:42 AM »
To me anyways how they blend in is kind of crude 

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #297 on: December 16, 2020, 02:15:53 PM »
I typed into the google : Tri Y headers for SBF 7 the Summit site came up first.
Looked at them & they are Scott Drake (sp?) brand for 1970 Mustang.
Looking at the others may give a better view ?

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #298 on: December 17, 2020, 09:20:57 AM »
https://www.holley.com/products/exhaust/headers_and_exhaust_manifolds/all_headers/parts/12119FLT


Just called Mopac in Edmonton. None at their three stores. Any place would have to be ordered from the USA and take 6-8 weeks.

I may pick up a bunch of J tubes & make a set.....? Have to think on it.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #299 on: December 17, 2020, 04:28:09 PM »
Most of the time I find I can find the same part number on eBay and they will get it shipped to me faster then waiting for the local shops to run an order. The Rad that I’m going to use in my build comes 100.00 cheaper off of eBay than the local shops