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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #60 on: September 22, 2015, 06:56:50 AM »
Dianne - google: 8.5 cert roll cage
You will find lot of pictures / info.
NHRA rules are the same everywhere.

Some of the attachment points in mine will be to also strengthen the sub frames I'm installing. Need this, as the springs will be connected to them.
My subs will extend out the back end about 1/4" past the body metal. I'm having solid steel blocks made to insert into the sub frames & weld in. They will be drilled in the center & tapped for at least a 1/2" bolt.
Reason: someone down the road may up the game with more engine & need chute attachment points.
Easier to do now, than after paint.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #61 on: September 22, 2015, 07:40:39 AM »
WOW, almost as much as the Pro 4. That's gonna be an awesome frame. I'm building a 10 second car, maybe 11. I'll start with that and build over time if health and life allow it :) I need to break the 9 second mark in my lifetime though, that's on my bucket list.

You go Reeves, I'll live the 8 seconds through you for now!
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #63 on: September 22, 2015, 09:32:20 AM »
Although I'm (trying) to build this one to 8.5 - it will not be that fast.

Engine will be a 302w roller block. Bore / stroke to 331. (likely a Scat stroker kit)
Solid roller (aggressive) cam & roller top end.
Want to run pump gas, so 10:1 or 10.5:1 compression.
Heads are 1969 closed chamber. Going to have them heavily ported & big valves.
Port & port match the vintage C90X - 9424 B intake, along with some plenum work.
Intake gaskets for the propane application to close off heat to the intake.
I already have the Holley 750 DP carb & MSD ignition (have to pick up a 6AL box though)

I already have a like new 9" diff housing. It will be narrowed, maybe Mark Williams axles & likely 4:30 gears.

I have a T-5. Going to have it re-built to as strong as it can be.

Just guessing, likely be in the 400 to 450 HP range ?

Just guessing, likely in the low 11s or with the right conditions , 10s ?

Going to hold onto this car till "the end".

B2 car will likely be sold when done & tested. Getting "long in the tooth" for a car that is going to be that fast.

Lots to do yet to this blue one.
First "plan" was to do the minimum to get it on the road.
Decided to chase all rust I am able to fix / replace.
Windshield cowl will be removed, along with the box below that.

Hope to have enough done by next summer to have the diff & cage built by a guy in Calgary.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #64 on: September 22, 2015, 10:06:35 AM »
Still going to be a real cool ride..
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #65 on: September 22, 2015, 08:35:18 PM »
You can boost it also. I plan on twin turbos, all in time of course, but as they say it's all in the air flow in those heads and intake. You have the intakes though :D

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2015, 09:46:56 AM »
Right rad support done.






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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #67 on: September 25, 2015, 12:47:21 PM »
Had some time this morning , before returning to the grind......

Before :








I had it soda blasted. It took the blue paint off of the word FORD. Was just a little bit cleaner. Not clean enough by a long shot.
Set up my small sand blaster to use Walnut - didn't do anything.
So, since I have two......I sand blasted it.
It's blown off with air - will need a power wash.

After:











Worked awesome ! Not afraid to do so again ! LOL !

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2015, 07:02:12 AM »
That is soooo ugly! I mean real ugly, I will take it off your hands and send it to me ahahaha

WOW, I need one!!!! Nice, very nice Reeves!!!
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2015, 07:21:34 AM »
Looks great..
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2015, 07:33:38 AM »
Looks great..

That is friggin awesome!!!!
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #71 on: October 12, 2015, 06:45:22 AM »
More time off.....starte d yesterday. Means drilling out what feels like a million spot welds.  :o
I have the inner fender supports off. By days end (today) I'll have the windshield cowl off & the box under it.

You know the seam that goes down from the box, behind the front tires ? Connects to the front / top of the rocker.
Don't know it's name.....but I have to cut out the drivers side to about 1/2 way down. Right side all the way to the rocker. Already have the plan in my head on how to replace.

Pictures - later.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #72 on: October 13, 2015, 08:12:22 AM »
Cowl & box removed in a couple hours.
Need to pick up thinner metal today. Stuff I have right now is .060 (or was it .055).
Need to pick more gas up.

From what I can see, it's not that bad. Perf in some seams & one spot in the heater snorkel (or whatever it's called). Weird spot for it to rust......unde r a thick gob of seam sealer.

Pictures later..

Wish more people used this site , over FB.
On FB a "post" quickly is gone. Info all mixed up, all questions / answers in one place.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #73 on: October 13, 2015, 09:47:06 AM »

Wish more people used this site , over FB.
On FB a "post" quickly is gone. Info all mixed up, all questions / answers in one place.

I couldn't agree more. I refuse to be a part of that mess.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #74 on: October 15, 2015, 05:16:34 AM »
Cowl off. Glad I am doing this : more rust than I thought. All fixable though.






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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #75 on: October 15, 2015, 05:22:36 AM »
Weird hole in the heater snorkel. It was under a gob of seam sealer. May be perf under it - will know after sand blasting. I have it removed now as well.



Perf through the left vent hole.


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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #76 on: October 15, 2015, 05:27:44 AM »
Box removed & the areas I'll be cutting and welding sand blasted.
The lip / seam across the front & going back on each side about a foot will be cut out & replaced.
The seams behind the front wheels, going down to the rockers will be cut out & replaced.






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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #77 on: October 15, 2015, 07:18:24 AM »
Looks good, wish I could deal with rust. ::)
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #78 on: October 15, 2015, 12:07:17 PM »
I love it! I'm very interested in your projects here. I like it when people stop talking about what they want to do, and post pics of what they've done. Just shut up and grind!
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2015, 04:30:51 PM »
Mig gas down to 500 lbs. Get new spare bottle so no stopping mid way on stuff. Check

Shop fridge full of beer. Check.

Pick up a small sheet of 18 ga (.046 ish) metal for replacing seams. Check.

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Read on a Mustang restoration site, that to remove the sprayed on tar stuff under fender wells (etc) is cheaply removed with the go joe type non grit hand cleaner.
Apply a heavy coating. Power wash off the next day. Supposed to work good.
So I picked up 4 lb 5 oz jug of the stuff.
Pink. Must have been made for wenches ?  ;D

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #80 on: October 17, 2015, 06:57:25 AM »
Looks good, wish I could deal with rust. ::)

You can, you just don't like bodywork ;) I had to lose a tech (well let him go because he was soooooo slow and made too many mistakes). We're sitting around for lunch and the new guy says he wants to learn ahahahaha everyone laughed and now he's gonna be grinding some rust and banging out dents ahahahaha
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- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2015, 07:40:18 AM »
You can, you just don't like bodywork ;)
Nope, been down that road before if I do body work it comes out worse than it was before I started, just ain't me. Missed out on quite a few cool cars/trucks because of rust. :( >:(
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #82 on: October 17, 2015, 07:42:48 AM »
I look at Reeves car and I say to myself what a wonderful car. It's going to be awesome when he finishes it with the love his is showing it.

I know, I used to like it before, just not as interested as I was. But now I'm doing more and more bodywork on the cars coming into the lot :(
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #83 on: October 17, 2015, 07:48:41 AM »
I look at Reeves car and I say to myself what a wonderful car. It's going to be awesome when he finishes it with the love his is showing it.
He also has the "talent", that's what makes it..
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #84 on: October 17, 2015, 08:09:51 AM »
Wouldn't call it so much "talent", as cheap & bullheaded  ;D

However, I've done lots of inventing & fab work all my life. Grew up with my Dad's heavy const. co.
Worked for lots of others that had me inventing & building stuff.

Even though I've never done this type of work before, I do not fear it. Mostly.

The part / area I'm unsure I can deal with is in front of the rear wheels / rear door post bottom. Looks complicated.
Will know more after sub frames are in & the inner wheel wells removed.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #85 on: October 17, 2015, 09:17:26 AM »
Maybe so but there has to be talent there too, I been fabbing stuff all my life too but when it comes to body work, that's a big fat 0 for me, LOL.. ;D ;D
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #86 on: October 17, 2015, 11:30:03 AM »
Welded up an angle iron cross brace....just to be sure nothing moves when I cut the right side wheel well seam out. Which should be done today.
Attack the left side & fire wall lip tomorrow.
With the .125 plate welded in the floors & rockers, nothing should move.



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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #87 on: October 18, 2015, 02:18:59 PM »
I do believe that most (not all) of the younger generation have what i call the ''McDonald's syndrome'' need it right now!!  A lot of us had to wait for what we wanted, and so when we work on our cars we understand things take awhile. I can't tell you how many people could not believe I spent 4 1/2 years building my Hot-Rod,didn't seem that odd to me. As for myself I enjoy pushing out from the dock and then figuring out what I'm going to use for paddles.Rememb er if it was easy everyone would be doing it!! From all that I've seen of Reeves work he works on the slow and steady plan,and I look forward to the finished product.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #88 on: October 18, 2015, 03:16:15 PM »
I know I said yesterday for the right side to be done......othe r stuff to do & I wanted to head scratch some more.

Cut just under 1 1/2" out.





Cut a new piece out of .060 metal. 1.5" - wanted a little more there for the spray skirt attachment.
All welded in. Need to do some grinding / sander disk & re-blast & prime (remember, all primer will be gone when the car goes for the full blasting / epoxy primer).
Welded both sides.
Note the door post weld. All seams on this car will be welded, both sides where I can.
There WILL be no LEAKS on / in this car !




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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #89 on: October 18, 2015, 05:37:50 PM »
Man that's a lot of welding. I'm getting lazy in my old age LOL.
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