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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #120 on: May 23, 2016, 05:59:24 PM »
Got it welded back in.
Was going to weld around the edge & decided not to. Couldn't see any benefit.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #121 on: May 23, 2016, 10:01:48 PM »
It's coming together good..
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #122 on: May 25, 2016, 05:35:25 AM »
Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on May 23, 2016, 10:01:48 PM
It's coming together good..

Even a small step forward, is still a step forward !

"Normal" years I am already back working away from home by now.
"Normal" years , all the small work things the wife can come up with , she can / will deal with.
Yet when home......she can figure out things for me to do that eats away my shop time !

It's a conspiracy , I tell you !
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #123 on: May 25, 2016, 07:22:29 AM »
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Yet when home......she can figure out things for me to do that eats away my shop time !

It's a conspiracy , I tell you !
Sounds routine to me, lol.. ;D ;D
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #124 on: June 04, 2016, 10:09:25 AM »
Finally got some done.
Cut the rust out of the box & heater snorkel.



All new metal welded in & smoothed out some.
I put POR 15 where the snorkel goes & will weld in after it dries. Just the spot welds.
I'll be putting more POR 15 around it after welded on & seam sealer when dry.

I will then give both side of the box a quick blast to "freshen" it up, then the POR double wash stuff....then spray 4-5 coats to both sides.
Then weld back in place. Hope to be done early next week - then start on the cowl.

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #125 on: June 07, 2016, 03:31:44 PM »
After welding in the snorkel I applied a thick coat of POR 15 inside / outside of the snorkle, then used about 20 lbs air pressure to "push" it under the snorkel, from 2 sides.

Then.....





Two coats on what is the inside of car. Three coats inside of box / cowl. I'll top coat it between cowl / box & explain the installation later.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #126 on: June 08, 2016, 07:36:19 AM »
Shouldn't have to worry about rust now..
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #127 on: June 08, 2016, 05:42:42 PM »
Done early this week ..... LOL !

Got the cowl & cowl to inner fender braces blasted.
Lots to do yet !
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #128 on: June 09, 2016, 11:04:34 AM »
Welded about every 4" (at spot weld holes).
Feels good to finally get this stating back together !



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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #129 on: June 09, 2016, 11:07:30 AM »
Cowl to inner fender braces have to go on before all the POR 15 is applied.
POR 15 will be on under the brace areas & then weld spot welds.
After attached again, Por the rest of them & cowl.




I'll weld the supports back on tomorrow, after it's cured.



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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #130 on: June 09, 2016, 06:33:09 PM »
Please tell me your retired so I can look forward to putting that much work in my car.  It's fantastic!

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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #131 on: June 09, 2016, 10:06:44 PM »
Wish I could do that stuff..
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #132 on: June 10, 2016, 06:47:04 AM »
Not retired.
I'm a (very long time) hoe (excavator) operator.
Working the Patch (oil & gas), I get lots of time off. Too much, some years.

Only been working on stuff like this mornings.
Afternoon I am generally outside doing other stuff I dislike.
Like garden stuff. Lawn stuff etc......

If I had been working 10 - 12 hours a day on this car, it would likely be done.
Cannot do so though. Owning an acreage means tons of "other" work , during my time off & home.

I also have to be "in the mood" to do car work. I find it is more "likeable" when doing the work when feeling like it.
Some mornings I'll head to the shop with good intentions ........ only to sit , look , and think through what needs doing.
Very rare for me to make / draw out plans. Do it all in my head & it manages to stay there for a long time.
 
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #133 on: June 11, 2016, 11:00:25 AM »
Invented a new way to make a mess ! LOL !

Welded on the corner braces.
As you know, welding will burn off some of the POR 15.
So.....using a paint brush I loaded up all seams / holes (some at a time & after not enough card board on the floor) & blow it in / under with 25 lbs of air.

Good thing I also had old coveralls & safety glasses on  ;D

Going to hit it again ......
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #134 on: June 14, 2016, 06:23:03 AM »
All the POR 15 done - 3 coats on top of box & 2 under the cowl.

It's clamped in place for test fitting. Fits perfect !

I'm missing some air fittings for my new spray guns, so didn't get the epoxy primer shot on the parts... yet.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #135 on: June 14, 2016, 07:37:20 AM »
That thing should last forever once it's done..
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #136 on: June 14, 2016, 02:30:18 PM »
Plan is "overkill" on this car !  ;D
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #137 on: June 15, 2016, 01:37:36 PM »
Long time getting this far......

Cowl & box welded back in.
I'll have a bunch of fine grinding along the windshield side and a few other places.
Clean up & POR on the outside along where welds are.

I have a plan on how to get POR 15 into the seams I welded......mo re on that later !






BTW - all measures up straight with the front end. Must have done something right ! LOL !
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #138 on: June 16, 2016, 07:26:14 AM »
Quote from: Reeves1 on June 14, 2016, 02:30:18 PM
Plan is "overkill" on this car !  ;D
Gotta agree there, LOL..
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #139 on: June 19, 2016, 06:11:04 AM »
Well , the new spray gun , meant for spraying inside frame rails etc - doesn't work.
Testing outside it will not spray , at any pressure , through any more than about 4" of hose.
This was with POR 15.
The undercoating material it came with is much thicker , and will test with that today. Doubt it will work.

All the outside seams I could get at with a brush was done the messy way. Load the seam & use 25 + lbs air to blow into the seams - twice. The box is done & now I can apply seam sealer inside the car / bottom of the box.
Going to apply it in a narrow bead first & "press" into the seam. Then a wider bead & a third if needed.

For the inside cowl seams ..... I'll be in town tomorrow looking for another type of sprayer.

Going to be a bit of a PITA with this one area done , with so much to do to the rest of the car. It will be well protected when complete though.

When the front end is done & before starting on the sub frames , I'll likely take it to a frame shop to see / make sure it's 100 % straight.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #140 on: June 21, 2016, 05:59:52 AM »
Seam sealer was done on the inside / outside of the box two days ago.
Yesterday - due to me always getting up too early for town (between 3 & 4 AM) - I welded a bunch on the frame rails & floor. Have to use a sanding disk on the grinder to make a bit nicer.

Didn't get to town though.... try today. Want to finish the cowl !
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #141 on: June 22, 2016, 11:24:11 AM »
Well, not what I had in my head, but it is working well !

Got a simple sprayer & took a couple parts off the nozzle , hook a hose & length of (new) brake line.
I set up the same on the air gun.

 


With the car on it's side so the POR 15 will run down the seam. Use 25 lbs air to force into the seam.
Started in the middle & down.

I'll rotate the car to do the other half - windshield side first. Front of inside cowl will be done after the back is done & dry.





It's all I could come up with , after visiting Bumpers , NAPA & other stores.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #142 on: June 23, 2016, 10:08:47 AM »
Hey, if it works that's all that matters, looks like a good idea to me...
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #143 on: June 24, 2016, 06:51:54 AM »
Last couple days been thinking of writing a book : "How To Make A Big Job Bigger !"

Any buyers ?  ;D

Inside of cowl seams done....... maybe.
Going to test that (bought) sprayer & see if it will spray the undercoating it comes with.
Doubt it......much thicker than POR 15.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #144 on: June 24, 2016, 01:46:55 PM »
Under coating sprayer doesn't work - it's going back to NAPA !


Read on a car forum about using (non grit) hand cleaner to remove the old tar undercoating ...... so I applied to both sides & will power wash tomorrow. Will let you know if it works.......




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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #145 on: June 25, 2016, 01:03:21 PM »
This morning I "tested" how well it softened the tar with a putty knife.
The this stuff was melted. Thicker stuff was mostly soft.
I cleaned all areas with the putty knife & re-applied the hand cleaner.
Waited a couple hours & power wash all off.
What little is left I can clean up with Brake Kleen (buy it by the 19 LT pail).

Would I recommend this method ? YES !

(with all the bare metal on this car, I blow dried it with air)

Some of the black you can see , like on the frame rails & cross member , is black paint.


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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #146 on: July 01, 2016, 07:00:10 AM »
Will be adding pictures soon.
Sand blasting on a big scale...... note to self..... rent a bigger compressor when blasting large areas !  :o

My compressor is large, but not enough for sustained blasting. It over heats (even with a large fan blowing on it), so lots of waiting for it to cool.

Three days so far & have one (maybe two) more day(s) left....depend ing on weather.
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #147 on: July 01, 2016, 10:02:01 AM »
Shows most of what is blasted. Still have inside inner fenders, back of rad support, fire wall & some inside the fire wall/floor.

Decided not to fully weld the trans support in. So POR 15 & blow in. Smooth out the mess.....will sand that area when the time comes to shoot (spray) the rest.

Also blasted plenty far enough back to start the sub frame....





Wish pictures showed bigger on this forum.....anyo ne try "save as" and see if it's a bigger picture on your computer ?
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #148 on: July 01, 2016, 11:17:53 AM »
I did a "save as" on your picture, and in pictures it comes up larger, and can be enlarged much more from there. The underside of your Pinto looks fantastic. It'll be great to have a beautiful, shiny car on the topside, and not worry what untouched forty plus year old mess underneath is going to let go. Looking good!
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Re: Blue 72
« Reply #149 on: July 02, 2016, 06:59:58 AM »
Good to know they can be made bigger.

Spent a really long day blasting. Got to the last 2' x 4" of the window frame left.......and the blaster broke down for the 5th time. So tired I could hardly walk , so quit.
I'll be able to spray all but the window frame & inside.
Raining (again) and calling for more tomorrow...... no blasting.
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