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Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« on: November 23, 2020, 03:47:10 PM »
Had to stop progress for a couple of yrs but getting that itch again to get her going,posted pics years ago of the build in progress but a short recap is itís a 351 Cleveland aluminum rod engine solid lifter cam,top loader 4 speed,and 9Ē diff with 3:89 gears,should be a fun ride when itís done and still need the communityís help so stay tuned with my questions 

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2020, 08:13:38 AM »
Glad to have you back! 

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2020, 08:35:29 AM »
Glad to have you back! 

Dwayne :)

Thanks Dwayne  would you know anyone with assembly diagrams for the window and door assembly procedures.

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2020, 09:01:22 AM »
Not off-hand, but if I think of anyone I'll let you know,


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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2020, 12:20:19 PM »
Ford produced shop manuals in several volumes for the dealership service department technicians on a yearly basis. Each volume targets a particular area such as body, engine, electrical, and so forth. I purchased a 5 volume set for 1980 Ford Pinto for about $70. You can buy just one volume which tends to go for $28 to $32. The volume pertaining to body would be the book you want if you do not wish to get the entire set. It's useful with part numbers, step by step directions, pictures, and diagrams. It's different than Chilton's shop books. I brought mine through eBay. If you cannot find it, you can try Auto literature retailers. If you want me to help you find it, let me know the year. Your pics looks like a 71 or 72?

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2020, 08:05:17 PM »
Ford produced shop manuals in several volumes for the dealership service department technicians on a yearly basis. Each volume targets a particular area such as body, engine, electrical, and so forth. I purchased a 5 volume set for 1980 Ford Pinto for about $70. You can buy just one volume which tends to go for $28 to $32. The volume pertaining to body would be the book you want if you do not wish to get the entire set. It's useful with part numbers, step by step directions, pictures, and diagrams. It's different than Chilton's shop books. I brought mine through eBay. If you cannot find it, you can try Auto literature retailers. If you want me to help you find it, let me know the year. Your pics looks like a 71 or 72?

Happy Motoring,
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Thanks for your advise, great minds must think alike as I just ordered what I hope I need off of Enay.


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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2020, 10:12:00 AM »
Great minds indeed! I hope that you'll find it helpful as it illustrates every part and gives clear and concise directions every step of the way! I am attaching pictures of my 1980 manuals for others to see. Ford produced one for each model year for the use of dealership technicians.

 Happy Motoring! Happy Thanksgiving!
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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2020, 03:47:14 PM »
Great minds indeed! I hope that you'll find it helpful as it illustrates every part and gives clear and concise directions every step of the way! I am attaching pictures of my 1980 manuals for others to see. Ford produced one for each model year for the use of dealership technicians.

 Happy Motoring! Happy Thanksgiving!
Dan

Yep, worth their weight in gold!!! 


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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2020, 05:34:05 PM »
Ford produced shop manuals in several volumes for the dealership service department technicians on a yearly basis. Each volume targets a particular area such as body, engine, electrical, and so forth. I purchased a 5 volume set for 1980 Ford Pinto for about $70. You can buy just one volume which tends to go for $28 to $32. The volume pertaining to body would be the book you want if you do not wish to get the entire set. It's useful with part numbers, step by step directions, pictures, and diagrams. It's different than Chilton's shop books. I brought mine through eBay. If you cannot find it, you can try Auto literature retailers. If you want me to help you find it, let me know the year. Your pics looks like a 71 or 72?

Happy Motoring,
Dan

Yes in fact my build is a 1971 and if you do come across a manual please let me know.
Great minds indeed! I hope that you'll find it helpful as it illustrates every part and gives clear and concise directions every step of the way! I am attaching pictures of my 1980 manuals for others to see. Ford produced one for each model year for the use of dealership technicians.

 Happy Motoring! Happy Thanksgiving!
Dan

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2020, 02:29:51 AM »
The "1971 Car Shop Manual Ford Pinto" was a single manual (model specific) unlike the later years when Pinto shared the multiple volumes with the other Ford models, like pictured by Dtmix above.  There are over thirty on ebay at the moment from $8 to $32.  There was also a Ford "1971 Pinto Do It Yourself Manual" which I had but can not find at the moment (do not know the difference).  I would recommend the Ford publications instead of Chilton and others.
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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2020, 09:31:33 AM »
Most definitely the Ford Manuals over the mainstream publications, due to using actual diagrams and having parts numbers included. As for the DIY manual, that is a generic manual for tune ups, replacing bulbs, etc as Ford was trying to market the Pinto as a low maintenance car that is easily serviced by a layperson. I also have that copy if one wants a picture of it. It's with a white cover with a large green wrench.

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2020, 09:54:16 AM »
This is the manual I ordered  hopefully it will work and if not Iíll add it to my collection.

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2020, 11:17:36 AM »
Bout time ! LOL

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2020, 02:48:23 PM »
Bout time ! LOL



Yea I know hey. My should take about a year project lol,Itís been a couple of brutal years with Albertaís economy,loss of life long friends and just recently my Dad passed away in Manitoba and with all this covid crap could not be there with him  Brutal what this is doing to humanity but I gotta get going on this project cause I ainít getting any younger thatís for sure.

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2020, 06:36:09 AM »
Bought 200 LTS of Fury 108 (same as VP C12) $800.00 , thinking I was going to get the car out lots..... had it out for two short drives !

No work on the blue car since spring. Have to get back at that one !

All needs $ and there is not much work in the Patch.

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2020, 09:55:02 AM »
I ordered a radiator that I hope I should be able to make work infront of the rad support  once I get that mounted and hooked up that should be the last of required system needed to run and then on to the new electrical harness,going to get some help on that for sure  but am looking forward to hearing the Cleveland come back to life.

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2020, 09:59:18 AM »
I am sorry to hear of your loss. I lost my dad due to COVID in April, so I can relate with your sense of loss and frustrations. Hence, my taking on the pandemic project with my Ford Pinto Squire Wagon this year. I was surprised how therapeutic it has been! I suspect you will find the same with your Cleveland project as well!

I am glad your shop manual has arrived! It's fun leafing through it before even starting anything! A dream-starter, that's for sure!

Let us know how the manual is as for directions, illustrations, and if part numbers are identified as many of us would like to know!

Happy Motoring,
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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2020, 10:22:14 AM »
Hi Dan. Yes it is good for the soul to keep occupied it seems. The manual actually has not come in yet, this is me going through my bagged and tagged collection of bits and pieces and found I guess I was thinking when I started this project from nothing about 5 yrs ago  sorry for your loss as well  while my Father did not die from COVID all the restrictions kept me from being able to travel to see him.

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2020, 11:36:35 AM »

Thankfully I have not lost anyone to Covid - yet. While I'm pretty much a "homebody" I do miss going to the Bi-Monthly Cars and Coffee. My Pinto is one of seven "old" cars that I own. And all things considered it is one of the better running of my cars - but that isn't saying much. Back in October 2019 I started work on my 61 Corvair wagon that has sat for 25 years. It is the worse of all my old cars, I'm getting old and I just took a 'now or never' attitude towards it. I decided to make it a Winter only project (So. Cal. here so Winter mean daily lows in the 50's-60's) regardless of how many Winters it took. If I felt like it was getting too overwhelming I'd just part ways with it.


In the Spring of 2020 I fully intended to get to work on my 20 year Sunbeam Tiger project. Covid came in March, my son came home from university and with him around working on the Tiger in the garage was going to be difficult and that got delayed. The Corvair project just crept along but recently I hit a wall with it. In fact, lacking space all the Corvair engine parts are in the back of my Pinto wagon for safe keeping (pic 1).


My son went back to work in September so not having him under foot had me FINNALY starting panel replacement on the Tiger (pic 2). I surely had a definitive plan of 'one car at a time, in a certain order' and that has all changed. But the good news is that I'm finally getting to projects that have sat 20 and 25 years respectively. And, thought I hate the split attention it is progress. So, gentlemen press on. In some ways the restrictions of Covid are a blessing in that the time isn't drawn away to other things.

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2020, 12:19:55 PM »
Great projects  met a fellow in Calgary at a car show with a Corvair that made me take a second look with the apparently dealer installed turbo. Neat little car  Iím the same in thought,Iíd like to do only one project at a time but never seems to work out for me   I have a beautiful low mile 2003 Marauder that Iím gathering parts for to supercharge. Itís my old man hotrod. Lol

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2020, 04:55:59 PM »
Having a hard time getting motivated lately.

B2 car I have to change the MSD dizzy stopper (maybe springs too) as it is not advancing enough.
Looked at it today though.

Blue car is ready for Header build.
Looked at it, re-arranged the tubes (cut a NOS set apart to use). Have to think it out some more.

Took a bit sick last Wed. Not sure what it is / was. May get tested next week ?
Plus my right ear starting ringing about 5-6 weeks ago. Drives me crazy & is hard to focus on stuff.
Getting checked out this week.....

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Re: Back to work on my Cleveland powered Pinto
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2020, 05:06:49 PM »
Yep  got Tinitus myself  I sleep with the radio on so I donít concentrate on the ringing. Hope you get better