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All the rubber parts below...
« on: April 28, 2014, 08:59:12 PM »
OK guys, I have some questions and I hope you can tell me and guide me. With the loss of my mechanic, I started looking and found someone very low cost and able to do the work inexpensively. The next car to finish and paint is the Pinto. So I want to replace a lot of stuff, I don't care if it needs it or not - I want this riding like new. So, in an effort to not sound stupid I need the names of the parts and where to get them. This is my attempt, please don't laugh, the mechanic told me, but I don't recall the name. The mirrors are the same on my Pinto as the Mustang Ghia BTW.

Rack and Pinion, non power steering.

I thought these were the same as a Mustang II, but when I search ebay I don't see any. I got two for the Mustangs, nothing can be found for this. Is it a Rack and Pinion, or do I need to search for something else. The rack and pinion search only brought up boots. Is this the same as the 1974 Mustang one by any chance?

The rubber.

These are all over, they seem OK, but I want to replace them. I'm hoping for a tighter ride and less rattle. The sway bar, is that correct in front? Can someone tell me what is available and where I can find it? I would like all bushings and ball joints replaced under there. Again, want it tight.


Thanks, and thanks for not laughing at me...

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- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
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Re: All the rubber parts below...
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2014, 06:32:48 AM »
The rack and pinion will be the same at a "mustang 2" and I have found allot of the rubbers through dennis carpenter they are out of north Carolina but they have a website denniscarpente r.com I believe is is their website I could be wrong but if you type it in Google should be easy to find

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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2014, 06:57:12 AM »
The rack and pinion will be the same at a "mustang 2" and I have found allot of the rubbers through dennis carpenter they are out of north Carolina but they have a website denniscarpente r.com I believe is is their website I could be wrong but if you type it in Google should be easy to find

So if I purchase a 1974 Mustang II rack and pinion it will fit my car? I'll call the company today you gave me and see what they say.

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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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Re: All the rubber parts below...
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2014, 08:31:08 AM »
Dianne, if you go to http://www.rockauto.com/ simply follow the prompts and you will see they sell them to fit your car brand new for like 90 dollars.

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Re: All the rubber parts below...
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2014, 08:43:25 AM »
Yes the mustang 2 rack and pinto rack are the same  some one please correct me if I'm wrong but that's is the rack we use to restorecars the mustang 2 pinto rack

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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2014, 01:56:40 PM »
OK, looks like if I go through the rock auto site I can pick up everything new. The issue I see is the price of a rack and pinion there. Expensive compared to what I see on ebay. So let me show some links and maybe someone can tell me which would work :)

This one says it's for 75 and up. I need 1973. So this probably won't fit my Pinto I'm guessing. Notice the price, and rock auto is 131 plus a core charge.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Steering-Rack-Mustang-Ford-II-Pinto-Mercury-Bobcat-1975-1980-/370963502071?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3APinto&hash=item565f25d3f7&vxp=mtr

Now when I reduce my search to 1973, I don't find any. Does that mean I can only use that real expensive one on Rock Auto?

Now remember that I'm stupid. I'm not a mechanic. I'm trying to find parts for a mechanic to do the work for me. I found a retired one that worked at a Ford dealer and retired looking for some side work. Mine is going remember.

So with that said, I find a lot of parts like inner tie-rod ends outer tie-rod ends and so on.

Is it possible, I guess I'm asking too much here, to find a front end diagram where I can go look for this stuff somewhere? If I can see a picture of all the parts, I can find the replacements for the stuff I think would make it ride much better and tighter.

How about a diagram that explains the parts? Should I just just buy a Hayes or Chilton manual?

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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

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Re: All the rubber parts below...
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2014, 02:01:48 PM »
Isn't the 73 steering rack specific to that year?
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2014, 02:02:53 PM »
I tried the Denniscarpente r.com sit and got thrivewhere-a fund raising site I guess.will try Google just his name next.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2014, 02:07:40 PM »
It is dennis-carpenter.com for him.without the dash you get thrive where.
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Re: All the rubber parts below...
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2014, 05:28:22 PM »
As Dave1987 mentioned above, the 73 rack is a unique one year part.  In another thread, Pinto5.0 mentioned getting a 73 rack from Advanced Auto.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/c2/steering-gears-pumps/15011

As to the rubber bushings, the two companies below seem to supply the local parts houses.  Also remember the steering rubber rag joint just above the rack in the steering column.

Moog has been around a long time but do not offer everything.
http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/products.asp?cat=9779

Rare Parts is new to me.  They advertise everything including the lower ball joints.  Link does not work as is, need to copy and paste.
http://shop.rareparts.com/smtp/shopdisplaycategories.asp?iyear=1973&imake=0020|FORD&imodel=0479|PINTO&iproduct=0040|SUSPENSION, SPRINGS & COMPONENTS

Before spending a lot, I would recommend going to your mechanic and writing down exactly what he thinks needs replacing.  Even the old guys at your O'Rielly's would be a good source for what needs to be replaced in a 40+ year old car. 

I could not find a on line suspension diagram.  I use the original Ford manuals obtained off of ebay.
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Re: All the rubber parts below...
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2014, 06:33:30 PM »
As Dave1987 mentioned above, the 73 rack is a unique one year part.  In another thread, Pinto5.0 mentioned getting a 73 rack from Advanced Auto.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/c2/steering-gears-pumps/15011

As to the rubber bushings, the two companies below seem to supply the local parts houses.  Also remember the steering rubber rag joint just above the rack in the steering column.

Moog has been around a long time but do not offer everything.
http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/products.asp?cat=9779

Rare Parts is new to me.  They advertise everything including the lower ball joints.  Link does not work as is, need to copy and paste.
http://shop.rareparts.com/smtp/shopdisplaycategories.asp?iyear=1973&imake=0020|FORD&imodel=0479|PINTO&iproduct=0040|SUSPENSION, SPRINGS & COMPONENTS

Before spending a lot, I would recommend going to your mechanic and writing down exactly what he thinks needs replacing.  Even the old guys at your O'Rielly's would be a good source for what needs to be replaced in a 40+ year old car. 

I could not find a on line suspension diagram.  I use the original Ford manuals obtained off of ebay.

Thank you! I will write it down next time. He doesn't think I need to replace everything I want to though. I want it done anyway... I LOVE THIS CAR!!!
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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2014, 06:34:32 PM »
Isn't the 73 steering rack specific to that year?

I found out it is, the 74 Mustang won't fit it of course LOL

So other expensive parts :(

Dave, you're gonna love this car when, and if, I ever finish it! LOL
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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2014, 07:07:16 PM »
Again, Rock Auto has what you want. It's 132 bucks for a rack for your 73. A-! Cardone 231710 is the number. Brand new, not a reman.

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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2014, 07:15:30 PM »
Rock Auto rules.....And they do accept returns...

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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2014, 08:19:42 PM »
I'm sorry that that I told you wrong I did not realize that 73 was a different rack then the rest.

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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2014, 09:30:32 PM »
Rock Auto rules.....And they do accept returns...

Yeah and they ship fast as greased lightenin.

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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2014, 05:21:43 AM »
Shop around.
I've been collecting all those parts for 72s.
Ball joints can vary $100.00 or more, for the same part number/maker.

Just dropped (about) 11k on the car in the last week (OK, some of the parts are for Ugly Yellow).

Checking boxes of parts this morning......I think I still need to find lower ball joints.

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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2014, 09:12:46 AM »
Again, Rock Auto has what you want. It's 132 bucks for a rack for your 73. A-! Cardone 231710 is the number. Brand new, not a reman.

Ordered :) Thanks :)

He can put that in anyway and got the tie-rods also and bushings!
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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2014, 04:49:37 AM »
Shop around.
I've been collecting all those parts for 72s.
Ball joints can vary $100.00 or more, for the same part number/maker.

Just dropped (about) 11k on the car in the last week (OK, some of the parts are for Ugly Yellow).

Checking boxes of parts this morning......I think I still need to find lower ball joints.

I used lower ball joints for the 74-up's on my 72. Jut required modification of the holes in the ball joint with a dremel. Car aligned and drives great. Way cheaper and easier to find than the early versions. Took about an hour per side (I went slow so I didn't trash the new ones.)

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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2014, 05:19:35 AM »
I have one new one here & three more on the way.
All covered now.

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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2014, 06:43:58 PM »
Happy  took the time to disassemble, sandblast, repaint, and completely rebuild my front end (bushings, bearings, brakes, ball joints, everything) including new rack and pinion. Well worth the money. The springs alone were shot - you should have seen the car height rise when we put them in!

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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2014, 07:35:31 PM »
Happy  took the time to disassemble, sandblast, repaint, and completely rebuild my front end (bushings, bearings, brakes, ball joints, everything) including new rack and pinion. Well worth the money. The springs alone were shot - you should have seen the car height rise when we put them in!

Chris

Yep, why I want to do that :)
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- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2014, 08:02:36 PM »
Got all your parts ?

Reason I ask is I have some extras. I'd have to post/send part numbers to see if they are the same as my 72.

Also , what happened on the heater cable (I'm not even sure where it is now).