Author Topic: 9 inch rear end (Read 19438 times)

pimpin_pinto · « **on:** September 17, 2003, 06:30:05 PM »

A nine inch rear end off of an 80's truck would fit a 76 pinto without too much trouble wouldnt it? I'm starting to look for stuff for my pinto, cause i'm getting the stock engine re-built for now, and am in the process of looking for a 302, 9 inch rear end, and a c4, possibly c6 tranny. I'm still in high school, so i'm gonna be getting these things one at a time, then installing them all at once. But i'm planning on buying used for the most part and rebuilding them, and putting in new gearsm and better stuff on them.

bday · « **Reply #1 on:** September 18, 2003, 09:36:41 PM »

Andy; I'm not so sure an 80s truck rear will have the right width; however a rear from a 65 or 66 mustang will just about bolt right in. Also the later pinto's (mostly wagons) & the mustang II came with an 8"with the correct width. Their are several gear ratios for these. Good luck!!!

78pinto · « **Reply #2 on:** September 18, 2003, 10:02:12 PM »

Don't use a C6 unless you like to cut metal with fire (torch out firewall and trans tunnel) The C4 or C5 will handle all you can throw at it if its built right and they weigh alot less! Here is a picture of by buddies car with a 351w and a C6.....notice the firewall moved back, and you can't see it but the trans tunnel had to be cut out and made larger. Big pain in the butt! Jeff

pimpin_pinto · « **Reply #3 on:** September 18, 2003, 11:06:16 PM »

thanks for the tip. the engine i'm looking at is about a 440 hp 302. so i wanna get something that can handle the power, and also is practicle to drive daily, and also a weekend warrior.

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2003, 03:55:18 PM »

Ok, I guess I will answer this question. Get a 9" out of a 59 Ford wagon and it will bolt right in. It is only 1/2 wider than stock. Other than that you will need to shorten the housing and axles on any other year.

71pintok · « **Reply #5 on:** September 20, 2003, 10:15:20 AM »

I put a 9 in rear end in mine. I was told it came out of a Comet or a Granada. It fit perfect. I put Richmond 3:88 gears in it. One problem I had were the breaks. The wheel cylinders are a bit bigger than the original ones so it feels like the peddle goes to the floor, but it still stops good.

pimpin_pinto · « **Reply #6 on:** September 26, 2003, 01:19:48 AM »

can anyone tell me how wide the rearend would be?? from hub 2 hub?? cause found one that's 57.5 inch, but that seems long, and i dont have any stands for my car right now, cause my dad has the escort up.

78pinto · « **Reply #7 on:** September 26, 2003, 04:03:36 AM »

If my memory is working i believe they are 52 inches backing plate to backing plate. We are going to use a mustang 8.8 on our next Pinto EFI project. I think its about 53 inches, close enough for me!

pimpin_pinto · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2003, 12:58:46 AM »

would it be worth the time and effort to find used axels, and get them useable or easier and better to get new ones?

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 06, 2003, 08:40:34 PM »

Yes 52" backing to backing is correct. Used axles are fine if they are streight and the splines are good.

fatheadinc · « **Reply #10 on:** November 06, 2003, 04:01:31 AM »

this should help yall out with any rear end pondering

http://www.carnut.com/specs/rear.html

i find it pretty helpful....... .......

kmayle · « **Reply #11 on:** November 06, 2003, 09:12:38 AM »

Quote from: pimpin_pinto on September 17, 2003, 06:30:05 PM

A nine inch rear end off of an 80's truck would fit a 76 pinto without too much trouble wouldnt it? I'm starting to look for stuff for my pinto, cause i'm getting the stock engine re-built for now, and am in the process of looking for a 302, 9 inch rear end, and a c4, possibly c6 tranny. I'm still in high school, so i'm gonna be getting these things one at a time, then installing them all at once. But i'm planning on buying used for the most part and rebuilding them, and putting in new gearsm and better stuff on them.

I'm going with the 9" out of a Lincoln Versailles. It's 58 inches and 28 spline axles, it's also the only 9" rear that came with stock rear wheel disc brakes.

Problems i've encountered:

finding matching rotors. They've discontinued one side and they're vented to "grab" the air. Now you have to use a right for the left or a left for the right. It's wierd/stuipid.

My rear came without e-brake levers... I was warned at times this happens but i figured i'm a person that can find a needle in a haystack if i try. Fortunately i found that needle by going straight to a place that rebuilds calipers and talked them into giving them to me in a $40/caliper rebuild. That was gold to me.

All the hoses are rather expensive.. about 30-5 a piece and you need 3

I haven't installed it yet.... It's getting painted. I got 4.11 gears/posi in the hog head.

I've also machined the axles for a larger knurl (.615 in from Mosier 1/2's) wheel studs. I have currently spacers for the tires i have on and had to put in longer wheel studs to allow for the wheels to thread on... being i don't want to have to press everything off, risk destroy my wheel bearings and damage my caliper brackets it's worth the money.

One out of a junkyard should cost about 300 if you can find one. I got lucky finding one. They're getting scarce. I hear some other drum setups may work.

Here are common lengths of ford 9" rears off this link.

http://www.therangerstation.com/9InchAxles.html

kmayle · « **Reply #12 on:** November 06, 2003, 09:17:40 AM »

Quote from: 71pintok on September 20, 2003, 10:15:20 AM

I put a 9 in rear end in mine. I was told it came out of a Comet or a Granada. It fit perfect. I put Richmond 3:88 gears in it. One problem I had were the breaks. The wheel cylinders are a bit bigger than the original ones so it feels like the peddle goes to the floor, but it still stops good.

Did you ever fix this? I'm dropping in the Versailles (rw disc) .I was curious about this as well. i bought a proportioning valve and am hoping that this helps being it will give more stoppping power proportionaly as supposed to to the front of the car.

I was thinking about possibly going to a larger master cylinder being i also plan on doing the granada/GM caliper front 5 lug larger rotor swap.

crazyhorse · « **Reply #13 on:** November 06, 2003, 12:07:05 PM »

kmayle,
you'll need the master cylinder from the versailles the rear end came from. Disc brakes have larger pistons, using more fluid than drums. The stock Pinto unit won't have enough flow to make the pads touch the rotors

Underdog76 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 08, 2003, 10:37:34 PM »

My reply would be that you should Tub the car and chop the rear down for some serious meat.. but thats just me

pintoperformance · « **Reply #15 on:** November 13, 2003, 01:14:13 AM »

Is there a ford rear end that came out of a Lincoln that has rear disc brakes that will bolt into a Pinto with no modifications??
Mike

78pinto · « **Reply #16 on:** November 13, 2003, 04:47:32 AM »

no, afraid not...they are all way to wide!

turbopinto72 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 13, 2003, 06:05:25 PM »

We can dream of such an amimal though

78pinto · « **Reply #18 on:** November 13, 2003, 09:43:53 PM »

The Mark VIII LSC has got to be fairly close width wise, but mounting is all wrong.....and its an 8.8

even closer....SVO Mustang, 8.8 rear disk brakes, and 53 inches wide, only off by half an inch each side. Cut off mountings for Mustang, add Pinto Leaf perches.

twaters · « **Reply #19 on:** November 14, 2003, 09:48:22 AM »

I posted a seperate question with no answers, so maybe someone here will help me. I am looking for the lengths of Pinto rear leaf springs. The overall length, and the distance from front eye to center bolt. Thanks.

78pinto · « **Reply #20 on:** November 14, 2003, 04:32:24 PM »

i'd love to help you but my car has been put away for the winter, anyone else help out here?

Felix Wankel · « **Reply #21 on:** November 16, 2003, 07:45:51 PM »

Quote from: 78pinto on November 13, 2003, 09:43:53 PM

The Mark VIII LSC has got to be fairly close width wise, but mounting is all wrong.....and its an 8.8

even closer....SVO Mustang, 8.8 rear disk brakes, and 53 inches wide, only off by half an inch each side. Cut off mountings for Mustang, add Pinto Leaf perches.

SVO's come with 7.5's, the Turbo Coupes have 8.8's though

78pinto · « **Reply #22 on:** November 16, 2003, 08:57:59 PM »

i believe the later (85-86) SVO's came with 8.8 did they not? I'm almost 100% sure....but i wouldn't bet MY life on it

WVBobcat77 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 17, 2003, 08:21:43 PM »

The Lincoln Versalles had factory rear disc's, and they are a direct bolt in. But, they are 8 in. not 9 and, the are few and far between.

Bill in WV

78pinto · « **Reply #24 on:** November 17, 2003, 08:29:56 PM »

The Lincoln Versailles (sp?) was a nine inch rear, i know where there is one for sale about 5 minutes from my house, but its in Canada.

78pinto · « **Reply #25 on:** November 19, 2003, 10:03:30 PM »

Here is a picture of my 9 inch.

crazyhorse · « **Reply #26 on:** November 20, 2003, 12:38:54 PM »

the vesailles rear was popular for it's ease of swapping into the Fox Stang they used both 8.8 AND 7.5's with a 5bolt pattern. the 7.5's were on early cars. the 8.8's on later ones. just remember when swapping in disks you need the master cylinder as well as the proportioning valve.

there was an earlier versailles that had a 9" in it. That car was based on the Granada. i think it was a leaf spring car. I don't know what the width is on that, but i'd venture to say it's too wide for the Pinto.
Just double checked myself, the early versailles had small 5lug patterns the later had 4 lug on 41/2

pimpin_pinto · « **Reply #27 on:** November 21, 2003, 11:09:43 PM »

hey 78pinto, what kinda car did you get that out of, and how much modifying did you have to do?

pimpin_pinto · « **Reply #28 on:** November 21, 2003, 11:10:22 PM »

also, do you got disk or drums on there?

78pinto · « **Reply #29 on:** November 21, 2003, 11:18:08 PM »

Hmmm, the housing is from a '72 ranchero, the pot is from a '68 Mustang, i was told it was cut down and has 8 inch axle tubes ends on it with 8 inch axles converted to 5 lug with drum brakes. I did not do it...but i know the fellow who did.

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