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Title: 4speed toploader with overdrive...
Post by: dave1987 on April 17, 2012, 07:36:22 PM
There is an early 80s Mustang at a junkyard here with a 4 speed transmission and the knob has an "O/D" marking on it, so, an overdrive gear. Is this the SROD transmission I have heard of?

If so, I was thinking of pulling it and putting it in my 78 on the 2.3L motor, hoping to get some freeway cruising RPM back.

Right now I have the stock 4spd in the car with a 3.00 geared rear axle and at 65mph I'm pulling 3000 RPM, where as when I had the 2.73 gears in the stock axle it was pulling 3000 RPM at 75mph and 65mph was more like 25-2700 RPM (somewhere in that range).
Title: Re: 4speed toploader with overdrive...
Post by: D.R.Ball on April 17, 2012, 10:55:43 PM
It might be a 5 speed...
Title: Re: 4speed toploader with overdrive...
Post by: dave1987 on April 18, 2012, 12:49:16 AM
I was initially thinking the same but the gear layout is the same as the stock Pinto 4spd, with the overdrive/fifth gear in the lower right next to fourth, which I found interesting.
Title: Re: 4speed toploader with overdrive...
Post by: Reeves1 on April 18, 2012, 05:41:41 AM
Isn't the top loader a heavy trans, with big input/output shafts ?

I am going to use a super T-10 in my white car. Not worried about a 5th gear though.

If you want better milage, it would likely be cheaper to change the diff gearing.
Title: Re: 4speed toploader with overdrive...
Post by: racer99 on April 18, 2012, 10:29:54 AM
Ford called the 5 speed a RAP,
No toploaders in 80s cars.

Got a parts breakdown if you need it,Dave.
Title: Re: 4speed toploader with overdrive...
Post by: OhSix9 on April 18, 2012, 05:32:22 PM
don't wast your time with that junk.  there are plenty of cable actuated t5's in fox body 4 banger mustangs from 87-94 that will pay off far better and give you a much nicer pick a gear.   Plus full blown t5 rebuild kits can be had for under 300 bucks on ebay
Title: Re: 4speed toploader with overdrive...
Post by: fast64ranchero on April 18, 2012, 07:44:20 PM
Dave, it is a top loader, Ford made and installed thousands of SROD's and put then in everything from Fairmonts to Mustangs to Ganada's, with  4 bangers to V-8's it's a good stout tranny, I've use them in the past, the problem is there is a big step between 2 and 3, with 4th being a overdrive, it makes 3rd gear 1 to 1.  If it's real cheap maybe, other wise wait for a good deal on a T-5.
Walt
Title: Re: 4speed toploader with overdrive...
Post by: racer99 on April 19, 2012, 08:11:46 AM
What is usually reffered to as a toploader is the Borg Warner trans.
Old school style shifter assy.

The SROD does also load through the top and it is a Tremac.

http://www.5speeds.com/toploader.html
Title: Re: 4speed toploader with overdrive...
Post by: fast64ranchero on April 19, 2012, 09:13:31 PM
Call it whatever you want, some even call it a RUG,  it's still a top loader, it's still a 4 speed overdrive, 3rd gear is 1 to 1,  4th gear is 0.82 (if I remember right) ratio and it has a huge gear split between 2 and 3. is it junk? no, it's ok tranny. Would I use it behind a N/A 2.3? prob. not, I'd use taller tires,  a T-9 or a T-5
Title: Re: 4speed toploader with overdrive...
Post by: vonkysmeed on April 19, 2012, 11:30:56 PM
if an 82 gt and a 4 speed.  good chance it is a srod.  the 5 speed did not start until 83.

the srod is essentially an aluminum top loader with an overdrive of .71.

it works great behind my 351w