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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #450 on: April 28, 2016, 09:50:58 PM »
The car could have been originally a beach car, if so it will look like it came out of the rust belt in no time with all that salt air..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #451 on: April 29, 2016, 01:46:32 PM »
Thanks Matt.

Right now I am working on my Ranchero, and it is very tempting to yank the engine and trans out for the Pinto. Stupid thing has rust like an Ohio car, yet it is a California/Arizona car. Not sure what part of CA though, and some places there do get wet. And it sat for several (8 or so) years, could have been sitting over a swamp. Problem is I need the Ranchero both mentally (it really is fun to drive) as well as a future parts runner for the Pinto.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #452 on: April 29, 2016, 01:55:21 PM »
Another lesson learned by me.
Can't assume a CA car is solid.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #453 on: May 08, 2016, 02:55:44 PM »
Hmmm.
I was searching for something to make someone shut up on another forum who doesn't like this forum although he owns a Pinto. He's posted here some in the past, but I think he is expecting way too much. These are not that common of a car, and he is looking for parts mostly. And he seems to want instant answers.  :-\
(the guy is currently looking into drilling the bumper shocks (he has the cylindrical type) to let the gas out so he can shorten them to move his bumpers in.)

Anyway-
While doing so I came across the thread on "simple fat bumper fix" by joebob, http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?topic=19149.0


I had forgotten about it to be honest. Reading through it I saw that I had posted about needing a press to try to modify the bumper supports I have since his fix doesn't work with station wagons. Well, I have a press now.  ;D 8)

Although I really want the small bumpers, I never got around to scrapping the large ones from the car. And I have a large bumper budget.  :'( So I may just play around and see what I can do with the bumpers now.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #454 on: May 08, 2016, 07:11:38 PM »
Can't beat the small bumpers, but when they're tucked in the big ones don't look all that bad, especially for the cost, lol..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #455 on: May 28, 2016, 02:57:00 PM »
I tried quickly to get the inner part of the bumper support out with my press. I may still have to take them somewhere. I need to move the press to get better access to it and will try again first. I only have the cheap a$$ plates that came with it, and they are pretty small and want to go flying easily.

Got the shelves put up in the room, need to work on boxing/sorting stuff now. Going to have one 5 shelve unit for the Pinto, and one for the Ranchero. Poor Mustang is left off the list. But I don't have much for it anyway, and most of what I do is sitting in the hatchback area anyway.
I should be out there working on the room now, but we were supposed to go somewhere. That got cancelled ( no free lunch, darn it) and I am still trying to wake up. I need to make a couple of trips to the storage place and bring back boxes that are going on the new shelf, and take the Ranchero passenger seat there. I just realized I should take the Pinto seats, although at this point they are probably toast. Been sitting on the hood of the Pinto for at least a year. Not sure how long we are going to keep the storage since it will be all of Karen's ex's stuff and a bit of my car stuff, nothing worth paying $50 a month for for very long, unless he decides to help pay.
I like the style of the Pinto seats, but it will be much cheaper to just replace them with something like the 98ish Mustang seats that I put into the Mustang. Depends on money. What doesn't?

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #456 on: May 29, 2016, 07:37:05 AM »
Sounds like you're getting organized, I'm still working on it after 4yrs, LOL...
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #457 on: May 29, 2016, 02:52:35 PM »
getting being the key word.
if and when I get that room done, there is still the rest of the house to do.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #458 on: August 01, 2016, 01:27:56 PM »
I need one of these. I plan on building one, just not sure I can do it for the price he wants.
Plus just flat out easier if one is already built. Even if it isn't exactly the right size, but it has to be close enough.
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/pts/5634519896.html
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #459 on: August 01, 2016, 11:28:22 PM »
Wish he would have shown it without the car on it, wouldn't cost much to build one either, only bad thing is the casters they develop flat spots real easy..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #460 on: August 02, 2016, 09:21:41 AM »
Yeah.

The wood is cheap. Good casters can be really expensive. I have some cheap HF ones (not their cheapest, I think they are 5 inch ones) I bought a while back just for doing this that were like $6 each. I need to get the car off of the gravel first, or else I have to get some really expensive casters, the ones with real air filled tires, but I think even at HF those are well into the $20 each range or more. The ones I have won't really go through gravel well.

Maybe one of these days. The Pinto is the only car I WANT to work on yet it is the one I can't do anything to right now.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #461 on: August 04, 2016, 07:58:33 AM »
I found some good 4" steel ones with grease fittings online for $30(can't remember where now)for a boat dolly I made, they worked great well worth the money. I tried the China Freight ones first and they went to the dumpster real quick..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #462 on: August 04, 2016, 12:23:50 PM »
Just a tad over my budget if that is $30 apiece.
Although right now my budget is $0, so pretty much everything is over that.  :o

This is the style I want so I can go off roading ;D , but not necessarily the brand.
http://www.harborfreight.com/10-inch-pneumatic-swivel-caster-38944.html

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #463 on: August 07, 2016, 06:55:30 AM »
Wow, talk about depressing and encouraging at the same time.
I just for some strange unknown reason went back and read this whole thread.
After 2 years I am still broke, unemployed, depressed, and not working on the Pinto. Although I had forgotten a lot of what I have done on it and I want to get back to it.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #464 on: August 07, 2016, 07:50:11 AM »
It's easy to get disgusted with a project, that's why it's good to take a break once in a while and do something else, when you come back you have a better outlook on it and get motivated again.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #465 on: August 07, 2016, 11:35:24 AM »
Wow, I didn't realize you'd had your Pinto wagon that long!  Art's right though, it's often a good thing to take a break from a project and then come back to it later.  Here's wishing you the best!


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #466 on: April 01, 2018, 01:02:14 AM »
 :'(
Gee. Almost two years. And posting here to pretty much put the nail in the coffin on this one.
If you haven't seen my post in General talk, I just bought another 79 Pinto. No engine/trans. But full roll cage, subframes, 4:10 8 inch rear. Needs lots of work but solid. Something I've wanted to do with a car for a long time.
So the 74 is going to have to go. I'll be keeping the good stuff I bought for it, fuel cell, tubular upper control arms, etc. Can't actually get rid of it until I get the Ranchero at least on all fours and moveable again, but that needs to get done soon.
Might see what will work on the 79 from this one as far as sheet metal goes. Need inner fenders and radiator support. But with the full cage it might be more work than it is worth. Just don't know yet. I will be posting a new thread for it once I get it home.

Odds are I will be trying to get rid of the 74 shell the way it is soon. Good glass except for the windshield, doors are decent, body pretty good. Luggage rack. Don't know if it has gotten any water in it, will have to check out the floors soon. 8 inch Pinto/Mustang II rear (disassembled). Spare tire well cut out as shown somewhere above. And it has that repair on the driver's front frame, which probably makes it a better candidate for a parts donor. Will have to see.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #467 on: April 05, 2018, 05:56:46 AM »
Hold on there.
I've just been reading this thread looking for some information (which I never found?) and I don't think I can cut this car up. I've got too much heart and soul invested in it.
My wife really wants it gone, but I can't do anything about that until the Ranchero is at least moveable, which won't be tomorrow for sure.
It just might still have a life with me.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #468 on: April 05, 2018, 11:47:13 AM »
Wow Russ, I went through this thread as well - what an utter ordeal your whole project has been. Man, I can relate to the problems, though my car was in much better shape "complete-wise" than yours when I bought it.


But thinking back, when I bought it TEN YEARS AGO, the amount of rust repair I had to do was absurd, especially the passenger side inner fender, which was DESTROYED from battery acid. The radiator support was swiss cheese, the cowl had a lot of rust, the quarter panels were both beat, the doors had rust, the floors were rusted from leaking water around the windshield, the gas tank was leaking, the sender was shot, all rubber parts were toast, headliner was ripped, the heater box was full of leaves, there was a colony of ants living on the top of the gas tank, the brake system was shot, the radiator leaked, the suspension was shot all around, the interior was fading, the sun had destroyed the rear inner plastic panels, the steering wheel was utterly broken.....


BUT THE CAR RAN AND DROVE.


Geeze, these projects are so crazy. Hope you get done what you want to get done!!


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #469 on: April 07, 2018, 10:20:22 PM »
Thanks, Chris.

I don't know right now what will happen with this one. My wife really wants it gone. Have you seen my thread about the 79 I am getting in the morning? I really think I must be insane. Maybe a nice insane as opposed to a homicidal maniac, but insane none the less.

I'd like to keep this one, but at the moment it wouldn't take too much for me to get rid of ALL the cars.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #470 on: September 11, 2019, 11:51:53 PM »
Well, I thought I was going to junk this. I may still. Later.
But I just got reminded of something.
Can we all say Pinchero ;D
Be fun to cut it up and see if I can do it. No stress if I screw it up.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #471 on: September 12, 2019, 04:23:20 PM »
Well, I thought I was going to junk this. I may still. Later.
But I just got reminded of something.
Can we all say Pinchero ;D
Be fun to cut it up and see if I can do it. No stress if I screw it up.
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Well now, there's an idea!!!  Like you said, no stress if it doesn't work out.  Plus it would be a super-neat ride if it does!

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #472 on: September 12, 2019, 06:52:55 PM »
I will still have to deal with the driver's side front frame, if I want to get it on the road.
But it would be really cool to have it and the Ranchero parked next to each other at shows.
Definitely would be a long term project.
Reading old threads here can be dangerous.  ;D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #473 on: September 12, 2019, 06:59:36 PM »
Great, now I am thinking about this.

Speaking of the frame damage/repair, I now have a sheet metal
bender that can do eighth inch steel. I could grind down the weld on the frame and make a c channel patch to go over it.

That might be the best idea I have had in quite a while.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #474 on: September 13, 2019, 07:41:52 AM »


Speaking of the frame damage/repair, I now have a sheet metal
bender that can do eighth inch steel. I could grind down the weld on the frame and make a c channel patch to go over it.

That might be the best idea I have had in quite a while.




Yup, that's a good one!!!

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #475 on: September 13, 2019, 05:20:00 PM »

... Can we all say Pinchero ;D ...

... Definitely would be a long term project. ...


NO! I've watched for many years now as you have dreamed, purchased, regretted, and dreamed again, purchased, regretted, etc, etc.. Please, for your own sake just get one car done so you can enjoy it. It has been painful to watch you torture yourself spinning in this revolving door. We are all only given so many days on this rotating rock and it is necessary to choose how we spend them. Between employment issues, health issues, a less than desirable climate to work in, code enforcement etc. your road has been more up hill than most have to deal with.  Pick your target (I assume the 79 ESS) and stay the course without deviation for your own good.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #476 on: September 13, 2019, 07:55:16 PM »
Won't be started until after the 79 is done.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #477 on: September 22, 2019, 11:18:07 PM »
Actually, probably won't be started period.
I should just get rid of it when I get the Ranchero out of the way.
Fun to think of doing, but probably not doable for me at this point.
Besides, wife would like to have a yard to do stuff with.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #478 on: January 19, 2020, 12:29:00 PM »
The end is nigh.
The guy who is buying my Ranchero will take this as well. No money, but I need it gone, and would probably have had to pay someone to haul it off otherwise.
Plus hoping for some Karma with him to trade for the Mustang.
Plan is for this week, I just need to pull the Ranchero's engine which shouldn't take more than a day the way my stuff goes.
Yet another car the I have killed. oh well. It was a lot of fun for most of the time I was working on it, which is all that really matters.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #479 on: February 20, 2020, 08:17:02 PM »
It's gone.  :-\
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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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