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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #420 on: March 16, 2015, 01:21:22 AM »
Just when I think I have a plan....

I was out trying to move the wrecked Mustang. Wanted it turned around. Wouldn't start. Anyway, after messing with that for a half hour or so (seeing what works on it, ie just playing around) I thought I should fire up the Ranchero. I haven't even started it for like a month. Since I got home after the heater hose fun in fact.
Sitting in it listening to the engine I am thinking "how can I settle for a V6 in the Pinto?". I am not sure what I want to do. Part of me still says to do the V6, and use whatever else off of the Mustang I can. The other part says wait for the Cleveland to happen. Problem with the latter is it may never happen.

I'm looking at using lots from the Mustang. I know for a fact that the dash will NOT fit. Been there done that. Well, it fits if you are willing to move the doors back about a good foot so you can get in the car. And you'd have to drive it from pretty much the back seat. But I am thinking maybe the instrument cluster, the heat/ac, etc. Not sure just how big the underdash part of the heater stuff is, but it would be nice if I could use it since it is available. Maybe the bucket seats, but I found out tonight that the driver's seat does not move back and forth, which is the main thing I had wanted to use them for. Has a tilt column, kind of ugly but then so am I.
Maybe I'd be better off just taking the engine out and selling the rest. Put the other 3.8 in it (in the trunk) so it is a complete car and scrap it.

Heck, I don't even have a clue if the 3.8 is feasible. I wouldn't even be considering it if it wasn't here and free.

Sometimes I think I should just let the Pinto go. Being broke is a bad thing when you want to play with cars. Being depressed and off the meds doesn't help either. But that goes back to being broke.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #421 on: March 16, 2015, 07:06:20 PM »
You need to join us at gran torino sport.org with that 72,

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #422 on: March 16, 2015, 10:46:54 PM »
I'm there. Been there for a few months.
Same user name.
Just haven't posted much lately since the Ranchero has just been parked the last month or so.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #423 on: May 05, 2015, 01:32:04 AM »
Been working on my Ranchero a bit and I am feeling guilty about not doing anything with the Pinto. There are a couple of things I want to do and can afford to do, mainly doing some measuring for the fuel cell install, but since the Pinto is literally sitting on blocks in the yard I am not feeling comfortable getting inside of it.  :-[
I am thinking maybe I should just use the gas tank from the other 96 Stang, but in reality either one will probably take the same amount of work to mount, and that tank IS almost 20 years old now and it may be too wide. Besides, a fuel cell is cool.  ;D

I need to come up with some sort of welding table so I can start working on the fuel cell mounting frame. I am not up to welding on the ground/floor at all. I have two metal cabinets that I could use for the base, but they have wood for the tops right now. Welding and wood are not the best combo. And I don't have the money or the energy to get a quarter inch thick plate to put on top. Those things are too heavy, even a 2x4 foot section, which is what I want to do. And if I took the wood off these things don't have a solid top. It's always something.  :-[

Thanks and sorry for not having much positive to say.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #424 on: May 22, 2015, 04:28:32 PM »
So much has gone on lately.

I have to sell the Mustangs today, family member financail  emergency. Details on the Mustang thread I have in the Non-Pinto section. So there goes the engine and trans I was going to try to use. Along with a bunch of other stuff I had planned on taking from them to use. I did snag a couple of things for the Ranchero though. The power distribution box from the engine compartment with about a foot of wire harness, the alternator harness, and a spare tire that actually has decent tread and holds air. No where near what I had hoped to take and use. So I guess back to working towards putting a 351C engine in the Pinto.

No more newer cars for me to try to fix and flip. Early 80's is probably the newest I will go.No computers/electronics.  Older Fox bodied Mustangs, or preferably 60's and 70's Fords. Wouldn't mind doing some more Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles as well. But only ones leaning towards the muscle car side of things.  If the wife's ex is even willing to give it another shot. He lost about 2grand on this deal.

Good part of that is I can put the Pinto back onto the slab this weekend.

I bought a portable welding table from Harbor Freight this week. So I can start working on my welding and get going on the fuel cell frame for the Pinto and something for the Ranchero. 

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #425 on: June 26, 2015, 06:38:04 AM »
Well, Pinto is still where it was. I have however bought 4 decent casters (4 inchers I think, I forgot already) from HF to use to make the Pinto rollable versus dragging it. Plan is to mount the casters on some 2x6s I have and mount them to the car somewhere and use the Ranchero to pull it forward. Only need to move it about 8 or 10 feet. Going to try to get that done this weekend. I still haven't taken the welding table out of the box, hard to believe it's been over a month now since I got it.  :-[ At least I did get a new barbecue grill assembled. Haven't used it yet though.  :-[ I didn't get the "grill" gene or something, but I don't enjoy cooking outside. I do better inside. I am better at things that have instructions (recipes) than things that take more of a feel. One reason I don't play much bass guitar. I can play the notes if they are written, but I don't have the "feel for the rhythm" I even had to look that word up for spelling.  :-[ :o

I am going to try to make the frame for the fuel cell and battery. I feel the  need to burn something, so it might as well be metal. Better than the house I suppose. I can at least do the basic frame, I am still not sure how I am going to mount it to the car. :-\   I do know the basic frame layout, but might have to have the cell partially above the floor, depends on how far it sticks below. Fuel cell dragging on the ground might be a bad idea. Pintos already have a bad reputation for fires. :P

Been trying to sell the extra stuff one last time. The stock rear, the stock front suspension/brakes, gas tank, etc. Thinking it will be going to scrap however. I need to clean up the place quite a bit and this stuff is not helping. Probably have a snake living under the pile.  ::) I've found several people who will come and take it for free. I was going to take it to a scrap place and get some cash, but I would have to do a lot of work to most of it before they will take it, and it just isn't worth the limited amount of money I would get for it.
Too bad no one locally seems to have any interest in all that stuff. I would pretty much give it away to someone who could use any of it. HINT-HINT! :'(

The way I have been feeling I am wanting to just scrap the whole thing, but honestly that wouldn't make me feel any better. It's paid for, and if I ruin it by learning to weld on it at least hopefully I will have learned enough to make it not a complete loss.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #426 on: July 07, 2015, 02:24:26 PM »
Well, I have got none of the above done yet. :-[
But, I did make progress on the Pinto. ;D

I bought a center console for it from a 77 Mustang II. Red, will have to be changed to either black or grey, most likely black.

It is complete (except for the mounting brackets) and in decent shape (except for the foam arm rest piece, it is all there but really feels rough to the touch). And it is an automatic console. I can get a manual insert for it later on assuming I can go manual as planned. Will have to look for the brackets at some point, but I am not going to be spending more money on this right now.

I hadn't planned on buying one of these, didn't think I would be able to afford one.  :o But someone had some parts from the 77 for sale cheap on CL and he only wanted $25 for this. It had been for sale for well over a month, I think the reason was he is about an hour's drive south of Phoenix, about half way to Tucson. Funny thing was gas was priced 30 cents cheaper there than the cheapest around here.

I'll try to take some pictures later on. Still trying to wake up completely, my mind isn't really functioning yet.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #427 on: July 08, 2015, 07:20:48 AM »
Sounds like you got it in Casa Grande.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #428 on: July 08, 2015, 11:43:23 AM »
That's the place.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #429 on: July 28, 2015, 12:46:22 PM »
Finally got around to taking pictures of the new to me console.
going to take a few posts to get them all. If I can remember how to post pictures.


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #430 on: July 28, 2015, 12:47:28 PM »
more
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #431 on: July 28, 2015, 12:48:41 PM »
and more, guess I got started on the wrong end of the pictures list.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #432 on: July 28, 2015, 12:50:13 PM »
Before you say how bad it is, remember it was only $25 (and about half a tank of gas).
And I am not even sure if I am going to use this for the Pinto or not. Still thinking about making one.
And, no, I don't have the brackets. But that is a long ways away for now so I won't worry about it.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #433 on: July 28, 2015, 01:48:38 PM »
Little clean up and it'll look like new, I'd say you did ok on that deal..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #434 on: July 28, 2015, 03:41:16 PM »
I agree.  I have two here that I paid a lot more for than that, and don't really look any better! 


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #435 on: July 28, 2015, 09:22:03 PM »
If I use it for the Pinto I will have to change the color anyway, so it shouldn't be a big deal. The arm rest is a bit rough. Not sure what I would do to fix that. Maybe use the same naugahyde on it that I am going to use on the dash pad?

If I keep it red I could put it in the Ranchero. Not sure how it would look or fit. Might try it just for fun. Only I don't have a floor shift or a floor emergency brake. Although I would like having the ebrake be a handle instead of the foot pedal. It's something I've been thinking about but haven't made up my mind on. And I would like a floor shift, but only if I can put a 5 speed manual trans in it.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #436 on: July 28, 2015, 09:38:25 PM »
Should clean it up and put it in the Pinto, I would if it were mine..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #437 on: July 30, 2015, 06:53:16 AM »
If I use it for the Pinto I will have to change the color anyway, so it shouldn't be a big deal. The arm rest is a bit rough. Not sure what I would do to fix that. Maybe use the same naugahyde on it that I am going to use on the dash pad?

If I keep it red I could put it in the Ranchero. Not sure how it would look or fit. Might try it just for fun. Only I don't have a floor shift or a floor emergency brake. Although I would like having the ebrake be a handle instead of the foot pedal. It's something I've been thinking about but haven't made up my mind on. And I would like a floor shift, but only if I can put a 5 speed manual trans in it.

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I have a 79 and it's going to be a pain to get it fabed in there. I was thinking that it would be better to build one from scratch for the 79. The 72 will require less fab though, so it will probably go in the 72. I have the brackets, could probably fab one for you, just need to bend some steal and drill it out.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #438 on: July 30, 2015, 07:11:38 AM »
I have two here that I paid a lot more for than that, and don't really look any better! 


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Had one I tossed into my burn pit. Good shape. Didn't think anyone would have wanted them.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #439 on: July 30, 2015, 07:54:57 AM »
Had one I tossed into my burn pit. Good shape. Didn't think anyone would have wanted them.
I'd a taken it.. :D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #440 on: December 01, 2015, 12:00:10 AM »
A bit of an update, although maybe a negative step.

I posted in the General section a few weeks ago about trying to sell the front suspension stuff. It's all been sitting on a table in the front of the house since then. Tonight was set the trash cans out night, and I finally decided to just toss the stuff. Got it all tossed except for one side of disk brake/upper control arm/spindle. I am keeping the sway bar.

Been so effing depressed I haven't done a thing to the car even though the temp has finally gotten cool. It's still sitting on blocks in the back yard, haven't even gotten the concrete slab cleaned off. I haven't even taken the welding table out of it's box.  I look at the Pinto several times a day while I take the dogs out back and wonder if I shouldn't just scrap it. I haven't even gotten anything done to the Ranchero other than drive it once every week or two. At this point I am worried if I do anything to it I won't be able to drive it anymore.

Never mind me, I am just totally depressed.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #441 on: April 03, 2016, 05:12:49 PM »
woo boy.
Just when you least expect it.

I went to a swap meet today looking for Mustang and Ranchero parts. Was really hoping to find some tires for the Mustang. I did find a pair of brand new electric radiator cooling fans for it( I have a dual fan setup given to me, but the fans are questionable).

However, I came across one of those "way too good to pass up" deals for the Pinto. Note, I didn't want or expect to buy anything for it. But....

I'll leave you in suspense until I get some pictures taken. This is stuff I have on my Speedway Motors wish list.

Be back soon.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #442 on: April 03, 2016, 05:54:23 PM »
Well, guess no one was around to get excited.  :o

Anyway, here are the pictures. Upper tubular control arms with bushings and ball joints (screw in), spindles, and a nice shiny rack and pinion with tie rods.
All supposed to be new from Speedway Motors, just used for mock up. And stock MII dimensions. We'll see.
Best part. $150 for ALL of it.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #443 on: April 03, 2016, 05:55:44 PM »
A couple more pictures.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #444 on: April 04, 2016, 06:54:06 AM »
Wow, that's quite a deal, they USA made parts????..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #445 on: April 04, 2016, 09:05:23 AM »
I do believe your luck has finally made a turnaround!!!  Congratulation s on a great find!


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #446 on: April 04, 2016, 09:59:01 AM »
Well, it was just good luck enough to make me feel like there was hope.
Hope is a very bad four letter word in my world.
I got let go from my job this morning. Posted more in the General section.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #447 on: April 04, 2016, 09:59:41 AM »
Wow, that's quite a deal, they USA made parts????..
Don't know, they came from Speedway.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #448 on: April 04, 2016, 10:01:42 AM »
Nice parts. I've been following silently on your posts and that's a lot to go through. I wish you nothing but the best and hope things get better. Keep your head up and don't give up no matter how easy it can be. One day at a time. We may not be family but our group genuinely cares. I truly believe that.


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #449 on: April 28, 2016, 03:17:03 PM »
Thanks Matt.

Right now I am working on my Ranchero, and it is very tempting to yank the engine and trans out for the Pinto. Stupid thing has rust like an Ohio car, yet it is a California/Arizona car. Not sure what part of CA though, and some places there do get wet. And it sat for several (8 or so) years, could have been sitting over a swamp. Problem is I need the Ranchero both mentally (it really is fun to drive) as well as a future parts runner for the Pinto.

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