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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #390 on: November 25, 2014, 11:36:35 PM »
The Ranchero is NOT a project! :P
It had better not turn into one, I don't have a good track record with those.

I worked on it some more today. Fixed a couple of things, broke another.
Installed led lights in the dash. One of the lights has a problem still, maybe it is the printed circuit board.
These lights are 15 led bulbs, but they don't seem very bright. But at least I can see the gauges now, and particularly the speedometer. maybe I need to remove the blue lens covers? Or maybe they aren't getting a full 12 volts. That is the main reason I want to do the headlight relays, along with brighter headlights.

I also changed the dash voltage regulator. I now have oil pressure and temp. Looks like the fuel gauge sending unit is bad according to the tests I did per the manual. Ammeter doesn't work, I am just going to replace it with a volt meter. Don't like ammeters to begin with.
If the oil pressure gauge is to be believed, I am getting about 60 psi. I ought to put a mechanical on it just to double check.

I broke the speedometer cable retaining clip apparently while removing it from the instrument cluster.  >:( It never fails.  >:( :( :-[ :'(
So instead of getting speakers I have ordered the cable and the sending unit, and even paid $25 extra for 2 day air. I better not break anything else, I can't afford it.

I have relays for the headlights, but given the above I am going to wait to install those until we have some money, just in case. Cutting into the harness shouldn't be an issue, but since this is a 42 year old car and my daily driver I need to be certain I can keep it on the road.

I got the other 3 point seat belt in. I really like them. These are the same ones I plan on putting into the Pinto. Not too bad at about $60 each. But they do take an extra (total of 4) mounting bolts, so getting the hardware kit is a good idea. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaf-all98115
I had bought a cheap ( and no good) lap belt from Pepboys, the only thing I used was the mounting kit from it. This one the ends weren't sewn, you had to loop them through a couple of plates. Not something I was comfortable putting my wife in for sure.

I did a lousy job installing the radio. Once it is totally working I need to go back and solder connections and route wires better.  :-[

This is what the Pinto (and the Lemans before that) were supposed to be. Something I could drive and fix as I felt like.  I think being able to drive this is the main reason I am feeling pretty good about life right now. I am actually wanting to take it to a local car show that is held every Saturday night at a Kmart on this side of town. I haven't even wanted to go look at a car show for a long time.

Wishing I could get back to the Pinto, but I need the Ranchero to be as finished as I can afford it to be first. I hope my enthusiasm for working on cars continues when that happens. I honestly haven't even thought about suicide since I got the Ranchero, other than thinking I haven't thought about  it. It being over a week is a record for me since I can't remember when. yeah, the rust, my dad, breaking things is a downer, but nothing taking me back down to where I was before. I do worry about this being temporary, but my wife and I are enjoying it now.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #391 on: November 26, 2014, 01:19:48 AM »
That all makes sense to me!  I've toyed with the idea of replacing the seatbelts in my Pinto with three-point belts.  It would surely be a lot simpler to fasten.  In the summertime, I've actually burned my fingers trying to get the lap and shoulder belts hooked together.  On the other hand, the car is totally stock and in really nice shape so I hate to modify it just for convenience.

Glad to know you are feeling well.  Enjoy it! 

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #392 on: November 27, 2014, 05:01:09 PM »
Thanks.

I did go back yesterday and properly redid the wiring for the radio. Still no speakers though. I wish at least the dash stereo speaker (two speakers in one) would get here.
I need to replace the turn signal flasher asap. The stock one does not like the leds at all. Found out I need an electronic one. Less than $20 at PepBoys, so that is doable tomorrow.  Would do it today, but NOOOOOO, they just had to close for a holiday. :-)
Found enough good wire left over from the Pinto rewire to do the headlight relays and add a junction block for a power source for the headlights so I will likely get that done early next week. I only have 3 days off, so I am going to be busy, if everything I have ordered shows up on time.
Also found out that the dash led's that I bought off of Ebay zoop. Not even as bright as the stock light bulbs. So I am going to have to buy "good" ones, that may cost about 3-4 times what I paid for the cheap ones (that was $7 for ten).

I had to go to my brother's house yesterday and took the Ranchero. He at least understands that I am really enjoying it and don't need a "perfect" one. But he wasn't that impressed with it either. Oh, well. My cars have always tended to be beaters because that is what I can afford, other than the new cars that I have had (with nice large payments). Shiny paint is nice, but a car that runs like a bat out of hell is more important to me.

Well, guess break is over. Back to work (not on either car though).  :-( 
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #393 on: November 29, 2014, 10:44:24 PM »
I have had a crazy thought about what engine to put in the Pinto.  8)
I truly am thinking of putting a 351C in it now. The Ranchero has a 351C and a C4. And it is a ton of fun.
Just think what that would be like in a Pinto, only with the 4V version.  :o ;D
Although I would prefer a manual trans, I could live with a manual valve bodied auto.
With the Ranchero being my daily driver, I can go wild with the Pinto since it will be a weekend fun car only.
OF course, at the rate I am going it won't be done before I am 65 or more.

Went to the local car show tonight. Found out that it ends about the time I got there. We ate first, next week we won't. I can't get there before about 7:15 pm. But I did meet another 72 Ranchero guy, although his is waiting on a 351C to be finished before he can drive it. Didn't see any Pintos, but most cars had left before we got there about 8:30.  :(
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #394 on: November 30, 2014, 07:38:34 AM »
Too bad you were late to the car show but, since it's a regular event, now you know!  Actually, a car show sounds like a lot of fun.  We don't have any around here this time of year; especially with snow on the ground. Will have to wait until Spring (sigh).  Hope you are having a great weekend.


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #395 on: November 30, 2014, 08:33:45 AM »


Went to the local car show tonight. Found out that it ends about the time I got there. We ate first, next week we won't. I can't get there before about 7:15 pm. But I did meet another 72 Ranchero guy, although his is waiting on a 351C to be finished before he can drive it. Didn't see any Pintos, but most cars had left before we got there about 8:30.  :(
Russ, did you go to Pavillions?, that's every Sat lot of nice machinery there.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #396 on: November 30, 2014, 09:06:00 AM »
Art-not the Pavillions. This one is at a Kmart at 67th Ave and Bell.
I need to go the the Pavillions though and see how it is going. I used to go there off and on for a while about a dozen years ago when I had my 69 Mustang project but haven't been there since. I'm not sure how a driver like mine would be accepted there.

Dwayne-Snow? That sounds like a four letter word to me! One of the advantages to moving back here for sure.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #397 on: November 30, 2014, 09:28:56 AM »
I went to that one once, it was a nice gathering just a bit far to go from my place all the time, used to go to Superstition show that was less than 10 minutes away from the house.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #398 on: November 30, 2014, 08:54:30 PM »
Sometimes I am worried the Ranchero is going to become a project. But as long as I keep it drivable I am ok.

I spent a few hours working on it today.

I got the steering wheel changed, but I am going to have to take it off again. Something is causing it to be very hard to turn. I think it is the adapter cover, it looks like it is hitting the steering column. I thought it was far enough away, but once I tightened down the nut that holds everything on it wasn't.  It came with a spacer, but according to the instructions I am not supposed to use it. But I might have to.
Plus I didn't get the wheel on straight anyway, I didn't have the front tires perfectly straight so the steering wheel is off. And the fact that there is some play in the linkage or box doesn't help.

I also worked on the horn problem. Turns out the horn itself is bad. I tried to put an aftermarket oogah horn on it I have for my Pinto, but couldn't find a place to mount it that I liked. So I will just buy a replacement horn at some point.

Tomorrow will likely be the headlight relays and a junction block for them. Was starting to do that today, but I had to buy some sheet metal screws to mount everything. I would rather use nuts and bolts, but where I am putting them I just can't get to the backside to install the nuts.
Here is the bad part. I couldn't help myself, I took part of the harness from the Pinto that I had made and am using it for the Ranchero. Money is a bit tight right now, I will go back and replace the stuff later. Took one relay and one junction block. The horn circuit essentially. Although since I am going to have to get a replacement horn I may not use that relay. But I am going to use the junction block.
I would just use the relays that are for the Pinto headlights, but I have the low/high beam sockets already soldered on, and the Ranchero has 4 headlights, not 2. I was going to see about doing a Thunderbolt type of ram air, the one that uses the inner headlight locations, but on this year Ranchero, I would have to cut holes into the radiator support to do that, and that is not going to happen. So I am going to use 2 cheapo relays I bought from Summit Racing for the Ranchero headlights, at least for now.  I think. Tomorrow I may see things differently. I just hate to have to undo all the work I put into that harness, but maybe I should. Better to use the best stuff on the driving car, and then re-buy the good stuff later on when I get back to the Pinto. I could do that harness better as well, there were a few things I didn't like about how it ended up.
 I do want to replace the headlight sockets, but that will have to wait. Not sure if they even make the 4 bulb type in the type of material that I got for the Pinto. Something to start looking for I suppose.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #399 on: November 30, 2014, 08:57:26 PM »
Kinda seems like a project to me, LOL.. :D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #400 on: November 30, 2014, 09:08:32 PM »
Yeah, but I have seen every "project" car I have had the last 15 years be towed away. That is not something that can happen with the Ranchero.
Like today, instead of leaving it somewhat in the middle of working on it I cleaned it up and made sure it is drivable, (well, the steering would be difficult, but doable. I could always put the stock wheel back on in a few minutes if nothing else.). I just have to make sure that at the end of every day I do that.
Except for Sundays, which have been taken up with the wife's ex to some point, on my off days I am trying to get up around 8 and work on the car until about dusk.

I almost forgot. I bought an engine hoist today. got it for $75 off of craigslist. The only thing wrong with it is that it is missing the pins that hold the legs in position. I can use bolts for that if I can't find the pins. And I won't need it for a while, so I have time to hunt for them. This is one of the main reasons I wanted something with a bed. Hopefully I won't need to use it until it is time for putting an engine in the Pinto.

I have got to get back into the habit of taking pictures. Lots of tools, and a new car, that I need to document.

Thanks,
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #401 on: November 30, 2014, 09:19:15 PM »
Yeah, I can relate to driving projects, lol, going thru that with the Falcon, can't get the wife out of it, lol..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #402 on: December 01, 2014, 10:11:52 AM »

Dwayne-Snow? That sounds like a four letter word to me! One of the advantages to moving back here for sure.



Snow is definitely a four-letter word!  We got five inches on Wednesday; the day before Thanksgiving.  The temperature rose up into the sixties yesterday and today however, so it's all gone now.  Good riddance as far as I'm concerned!

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #403 on: December 01, 2014, 03:13:38 PM »

That change in weather always tended to get my wife sick. Glad we are out of that. Miss lots of stuff from back there, but not snow and the drastic weather changes.

I've got horns on the Ranchero. Found a guy selling lots of Fox body stuff. Got a pair from the late 80's for 12 bucks. Almost a perfect fit, but had to flatten out the locking tab on the mount and rotate the horns just a bit. Was only about half an inch away from being perfect. Afterwards I realised I could have left that tab and just drilled a new hole for it, but I doubt if it will make a difference. That isn't going anywhere.

The steering issue is definitely that adapter cover. So for now I am running without it. Looks like crap, but works. I need to grind/file off about an 1\8th inch from the bottom of it. Not going to mess with it for now. Steering wheel is still off center. I found out my puller doesn't have bolts that fit the adapter. So that will have to wait for another day as well.

I'm on lunch break, after I eat I think I am going to do the relays. Or take a nap. Not sure which yet. I have enough cash to go buy another one of those speaker boxes. It's either that or buy some 6x9s and just have them laying on the floor behind the seat. Actually, I just had an idea. I could use "L" brackes and mount them to the back wall, down above the spare tire area. Hmmmm. Have to think about that. Not sure if I can get decent 6x9s for around $40, which is what the speaker box thing costs. Well, $41.99 or something.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #404 on: December 01, 2014, 10:37:38 PM »
I ended up mounting the relays for the headlights. Started getting late, so I didn't start the wiring for them.
Turns out I can use the headlight connectors from the Pinto. the low beams have the 3 terminal bulbs. And the high beams only have 2, but these will work, just have an extra unused terminal. Have to see if I can find who I bought these from. Either was on Ebay or Amazon. They were under $10.
The way these headlights are wired is interesting. Not what I would have thought. I bought one of those laminated wiring diagrams that have the wires in the actual colors. Big big help.

And then I ended up buying another one of the speaker boxes. This one works. I tested it in the parking lot of the PepBoys I bought it at. Now I just need to mount it. Decided on a different way. Going to cut the loop mount off of the tunnel that is for the bumper jack and set the speaker box there. Will have to find a way to mount it to the back wall, probably just cheap brackets.  They didn't have any 6x9s that were worth buying in my price range. Eventually I will come up with a better arrangement, but this will get me sounds for now at least.

I did take some pictures today. Need to download them onto this computer.  Although I only took pics of the Ranchero, no tools. Not even of the new horns. Can't see them where they are mounted without removing some stuff.

I feel bad about cutting the Pinto engine compartment harness, although it is just pretty much back to stock except for several wires that are now shorter. I will redo it completely when I get back to working on the Pinto. Like I said, I wasn't totally happy with it anyway.  With a V8 of either W or C config, the relays were going to have to move since they were on the radiator support where it will have to be cut away for a larger radiator.  And I didn't totally like the routing of the wires. I went the easy way when I did it, not really the best way.
Plus, I need to pull the dash and totally redo that harness.  Maybe I should just get a Painless or Ron Francis type wiring kit and start from scratch. I just have no experience with those and don't know if the wiring sizes are up to my standards. I am of the "bigger is better" point of view. Probably don't need to be, but that is just how I am.

I am also going to have to get a 9 inch rear end for it with a Cleveland engine.  Guess I should sell the 8 inch. Could use some cash right now. Have to put it back together first I suppose. Although maybe it would be better for potential buyers to be able to look at the gears and axles? Maybe I will just try it apart first. Probably will lose money on it, but that seems to be my standard operating procedure with car stuff.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #405 on: December 02, 2014, 07:13:28 AM »
I bought a Painless for my Nova(haven't installed it yet)and if you can read and pay attention they are re pretty much a no brainer, instructions are very detailed and all the wires are marked where they go the whole length. When it comes to electrical I'm about as dumb as it gets and even I can understand it.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #406 on: January 24, 2015, 11:29:01 PM »
gee, been so long I am seeing the warning about this being an old topic.

It is hard for me to justify paying for a Painless or similar since wiring for me isn't a problem, but it may make more sense. I would probably get one of the universal ones if I do go that route. Definitely would be quicker using them. Just not sure their wiring would be up to my standards, I am a bit picky when it comes to that.

As you may have noticed I have posted my 8 inch rear for sale here. I also posted it on CL locally and have someone interested in trading for it. He has a couple of things that I listed as possibilities, a pair of aftermarket bucket seats and a tach and speedometer. The bucket seats would be for the Pinto, the gauges probably for the Ranchero, although I am not positive. It is an either or thing. Don't know if the seats come with the mounts. The speedometer is pretty beat up around the outside, not sure if that would show when installed. The tach is WAY more than I need for the Ranchero, goes to like 10 grand, and has a reset and stuff that I would never use. Could use them for the Pinto. If I got the tach/speedo for the Pinto I would be able to actually finish the instrument panel I started on a while back. I was really hoping to get a full set of gauges with electrical sending units for the Ranchero right now, I hate the mechanical ones I have. Haven't even hooked up the oil pressure, and the water temp is stopping me from removing the panel to redo the wiring on it unless I remove the sending unit from the block. I have to flush the cooling system anyway, so I may just do that. It is just that it doesn't leak and I hate touching it.

Decisions, decisions. I really really wanted cash or stuff I could use right away on the Ranchero, but then this might get me back on the Pinto a bit.

Although I may need to make some sort of dolly for the Pinto to move it off of the slab it is on. Looking at partnering with my wife's ex on buying and fixing up Mustangs (semi newer(1990's and up ones) at least for now) to sell. This would be in addition to the other flipping my brother, dad, and I are going to do. We are going to be either working with a licensed dealer who flips or get our own license and start doing auctions. We bought a car from this guy who does this for a living and may work with him for a bit to get up and running. He wants a fee for using his license and a set amount per car. I figure we would be paying for an education since he would be showing me the in's and out's of this. Yet to be determined though.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #407 on: January 25, 2015, 07:07:14 AM »
Paying some fees in exchange for learning the ropes is probably a wise investment.  Good luck!
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #408 on: January 27, 2015, 08:22:27 PM »
Thanks.
I need to get my brother to commit one way or the other. Problem is he is CEO/President of a company and that takes up most of his time. Heart is in the right place, but...

Anyway, if you guys have read my other post I made today in the off topic section, it looks like working on the Pinto just took another step backwards. I have to get my time organized so I can work on all 3 cars now. I'd like to at least get the fuel cell installed since I have all the stuff for that. I'll even try to weld the mounting frame for it, since it is 1/8 inch angle it will be hard for me to burn through. And I do have the tubing to make the sub frame connectors, I can get them cut and fitted, then get them welded later one.

Problem with all of this is I am just flat out tired and over stressed and don't have the energy. But I had better find it soon.

Haven't heard back from the guy who wanted to trade for my 8 inch rear. I'd really rather have the money than what he had to trade anyway, right now. The seats he had would be good for the Pinto, but they would likely be taking up space for the next year, and they aren't uncommon so not getting them isn't a big deal.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #409 on: January 28, 2015, 07:05:53 AM »
Sounds like you're getting your spirits up Russ. I hope this works out for you with everything. Hope you get to keep the rear end also!
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #410 on: February 13, 2015, 08:07:57 PM »
I could use some spirits, too bad I can't drink anymore.

I won't say what he said, but my dad and I got into a screaming match about the Pinto, which he only saw last weekend. I think he has had one stroke too many. All he cares about these days is "value" and Rush Limbaugh. Heaven forbid I do something that I enjoy and have fun doing. I have been told by my mom to never mention that I am on "Obamacare" as he will go off and never calm down.
I will be avoiding him as much as humanly possible, and will just be polite when I do have to have contact with him. but as far as I am concerned, my real dad died a few years ago.this is just an alien in his body as far as I am concerned. to everyone else in my family I guess the change was slow enough and over a few years so they don't really see it, but having been gone for over 8 years to me it is like getting hit in the face.

I need to get something done to the Pinto. Maybe I can organize my days to have some Pinto, some Mustang, and some Ranchero time, as well as some work around the house time. Or maybe I will just stay a slug and get nothing accomplished. "Death where is thy sting" I think is the quote.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #411 on: February 13, 2015, 08:13:21 PM »
Oh, I forgot.
Dianne, I don't want or need the 8 inch rear. I do need a 9 inch one though. I would really like to sell the 8 inch, could really use the cash, but I have it listed on CL here for sale or trade, depending on what someone wants to trade for. Looking for stuff for either the Pinto ( a 9 inch housing would be good) or the Ranchero (set of electric gauges or a 4bbl intake for the 2V Cleveland as an example) or some shop tools (could use an engine stand of the 4 legged variety or a hyd. press). But have not gotten any real interest.
I just don't do real well on selling stuff it seems.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #412 on: February 14, 2015, 03:36:27 AM »
Russ, I understand about selling stuff. I have just sold my Spitfire and have 5 cars left LOL I want a 65 SS Impala I saw and want. I don't sell stuff good either, the convertible I have listed at 3500 and it books for 4100 and no calls. My Impala no calls and no calls on my truck. People are waiting on tax returns I think. So, when it comes to selling cars, it takes time sometimes. My mom, and I'm almost 60, is getting on my case because I'm doing cars and learning to weld LOL My kids are in their 20s, mid to late, and I still throw in my 2 cents all the time, I think it's something we all, past, present and future, get into.

Keep plugging and chasing your dreams, I certainly am!
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #413 on: February 25, 2015, 02:31:43 AM »
Yes, you certainly are.  ;D

My wife gets mad if I chase my dreams.  :P Oh wait, those aren't cars. ;D Hell, I am too out of shape to chase anything anymore anyway.
Cars she doesn't have a problem with as long as we have the money.   

I am wanting to build a body cart for the Pinto so I can roll it off the slab and work on other cars and use it as a patio also. Not a big deal to do except for the money right now. I built what I called a rolltissorie for my Lemans back in Ohio so a cart is nothing. Just need some 2x6s and some hefty casters since it will be rolling on gravel. I tend to do this sort of stuff in wood, since I work well with it normally.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #414 on: February 25, 2015, 07:22:41 AM »
Yes, you certainly are.  ;D

My wife gets mad if I chase my dreams.  :P Oh wait, those aren't cars. ;D Hell, I am too out of shape to chase anything anymore anyway.
Cars she doesn't have a problem with as long as we have the money.   

I am wanting to build a body cart for the Pinto so I can roll it off the slab and work on other cars and use it as a patio also. Not a big deal to do except for the money right now. I built what I called a rolltissorie for my Lemans back in Ohio so a cart is nothing. Just need some 2x6s and some hefty casters since it will be rolling on gravel. I tend to do this sort of stuff in wood, since I work well with it normally.

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You built a rotisserie? I am talking to another shop about building one together :D Those rock!!! Building a test engine stand first :(

You get get rollers and put the tires on those and roll them around. We use those now on the cars that have engines pulled, they work pretty good actually! I have very heavy duty ones, but you can get them at Habor Freight for like $49.00 for two, but you really need 4. Car moves so easy on these!
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #415 on: February 25, 2015, 01:24:36 PM »
The casters on those Harbor Freight ones zoop. I bought those while working on my Lemans and they couldn't even handle the weight of a bare Lemans chassis. Once I bought some good casters they weren't bad. But honestly the $12 furniture movers work much better. But the casters on those won't work with gravel.
the Pinto has no suspension anyway.
I built a rolltissorie, not a rotissorie.  ;D
Thought I had more pictures. It hurt having to go back on the Pontiac forum. That was a lot of money and effort wasted. :'(
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #416 on: February 25, 2015, 05:08:44 PM »
Pretty cool!
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #417 on: March 01, 2015, 08:31:51 PM »
Well, I just deleted the CL ad for the 8 inch rear. I think I am going to slap the leafs back together and bolt it all back on the Pinto so I can put some tires on the car to roll it backwards off the concrete slab for now. Still have the front end stuff, maybe slap that back on for front tires as well. I hate to go backwards, but I have that stuff and don't have the money to buy the stuff for a dolly. Still have the 4 lug 14 inch rims/tires that came with the car too.
I need to get it out of the way before I just call a scrapper to come get it. I'd hate myself later if I did that, but I tend to do stupid stuff when it is expedient instead of taking the time and effort to do something right at times. See my post on the 79 Pinto for a perfect example of being expediently stupid.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #418 on: March 04, 2015, 07:32:03 PM »
I got the Pinto off the slab and into the yard. Yuck. It's sitting on concrete blocks. does that make me a redneck?  ;D
Did not put it back together, I just used some of those furniture dollies. I had some pieces of a cabinet I had found being tossed, used them for the dollies to roll on when it got to the end of the slab. Ground is way too wet with all the rain we have had lately.

I am not really happy about this, but I guess I needed to get it done. It looks like I will be buying that wrecked Mustang for parts, so I need to put the current Mustang on the slab where the Pinto was. Going to try to do that tomorrow. At least that one rolls.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #419 on: March 04, 2015, 07:48:21 PM »
I got the Pinto off the slab and into the yard. Yuck. It's sitting on concrete blocks. does that make me a redneck?  ;D
Did not put it back together, I just used some of those furniture dollies. I had some pieces of a cabinet I had found being tossed, used them for the dollies to roll on when it got to the end of the slab. Ground is way too wet with all the rain we have had lately.

I am not really happy about this, but I guess I needed to get it done. It looks like I will be buying that wrecked Mustang for parts, so I need to put the current Mustang on the slab where the Pinto was. Going to try to do that tomorrow. At least that one rolls.

Redneck LOL Lots o rednecks out this way ;) Being one is NOT a bad thing mind you. Hope you have the farmers tan also!

You can sell parts off that other Mustang also and maybe recoup some of the money!

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- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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