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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #300 on: September 08, 2014, 12:13:48 PM »
I like that.. 8)
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #301 on: September 08, 2014, 01:34:22 PM »
What year dash is that?
I wish I had the black part that is under the gauges on it, that would make this really simple.
Right now mine is two 3 3/8ths gauges (speedo and tach) with two 2 1/16ths gauges in between and two more along the bottom. Subject to change positioning a little bit. I could run all four smaller ones along the bottom. Just not sure until I start playing with the real gauges.
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I will have to use wedges cut from pipe (most likely pvc) in order for them to be facing straight on. I could make the panel more of a box to avoid that, but I really want it to fit totally in the stock position so it looks as little clunky as possible.

I found the gas gauge and tach I had wanted on ebay last night cheaper than summit/any store so I splurged. Something like $40ish total. SunPro, which is what my other gauges are. They don't make a speedometer so I have another  brand picked out. Analog for now. If things improve financially I'd like to get one of the GPS ones, or at least one of the electronic types. Makes it easier to hook up to the trans.

We just heard from the realtor about the Warren Ohio house. She got an offer that the bank may accept. Yay! The offer is still on the low side, but only $6000 from the appraisal. I just am wondering if my having a VA insured loan makes the bank less willing to take less. I really don't know how that all works.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #302 on: September 08, 2014, 02:10:46 PM »
I don't remember how it was made. It was saved when I was doing major project research and probably just kept it as an idea for gauges down the line.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #303 on: September 08, 2014, 11:36:58 PM »
Hmmm,. I thought I had posted about these leaf spring bushings here. Maybe it was in the general help section.
Anyway, I found these
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Chrysler-Pinto-Leaf-Spring-Bushings,7206.html
I had thought that they were for the front eyes. Turns out they are for the rear/shackles. And they require a 9/16 bolt. I don't know what size bolt is stock. Not sure if I want to do change shackles. And all of Speedway's shackles are too short. Center to center they are 1.5inch, mine at least are 2.5 inch c to c.
And I won't be reusing the stock shackles. Bolt is 1/2 inch, and pressed in or maybe welded. Either way that stops me from modifying them.
Now I have to try to find the front poly bushings that seem common.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #304 on: September 09, 2014, 12:43:15 AM »
I was doing some searching on the leaf spring bushings here and came across the 73 Pangra Project thread where TurboPinto72 posted about using these(not from amazon when he bought them)
http://www.amazon.com/Prothane-6-1051-Spring-Shackle-Bushing/dp/B002P8RJYA

For that price I am using those too unless there is a major difference between the 73 and 74. And I can keep the stock shackles.  ;D

OOPS, I just read some more and he stated that you have to turn down the shackle bushings. Still, I guess that is easier/better than trying to use other shackles. Looks like I will need to buy a caliper set.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #305 on: September 09, 2014, 03:24:50 AM »
I've been a very very naughty boy the last hour or so. :P
Let's just say I will be able to reinstall the 8 inch rear with the leaf springs having all new stuff in about a week.
Shame on me.  ;D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #306 on: September 10, 2014, 02:00:43 AM »
I did nothing at all with the car today.

But I did something that should really help in the future. I built a workbench.

I didn't start out the day with that in mind. I had to go out and about, and one of the places we stopped at was a local thrift store called Savers. I just had a gut feeling I needed to go there and we were right by it. So we go in looking for dvd racks, and I see one kitchen cabinet. Looked at the price, it was $9.99. I told my wife there is my bench. Got it home, it barely fit with my wife's wheelchair in back. Then I went to Home Depot to buy some 2x4s. $76 dollars later (ok, I did buy something for the Pinto, I bought a 2 inch and a 3 inch hole saw for the gauges) and about 2 hours of fun work (I like wood working) and I have a bench. It certainly isn't the best I have ever built, but at about $55 total into it it is definitely the cheapest. And it will do what I need it to do. I wouldn't stand on this one, but I didn't build it to be that sturdy. No need to right now, and no money to either. At least one bench I built, the one I had in Akron when I had the 79 ran over $200. I at over 300lbs could jump up and down on it and it wouldn't budge.
But now I have a place to drill, cut, and just work with things other than the radiator support of the Pinto. Yes, I was clamping stuff onto it so I could do stuff like drill and cut.  :-[

Not sure what is up with the middle picture, but the cabinet is closest to the color in the first and last pictures.

And yes, the Coke machine does somewhat work. It gets cold, but the change taker has problems. We aren't using it right now, restoring it is another down the road project. Brought it from Ohio. At least I didn't get rid of it, although I came close. But my wife really wanted us to keep it if we could, so I managed to make sure we had the room for it. And no, the workbench isn't attached to it. It just came right up to it.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #307 on: September 10, 2014, 03:15:27 AM »
Nothing beats having a decent place to work!  Looks good, Russ!
 
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #308 on: September 10, 2014, 07:31:38 AM »
Looks good, a bench makes life a lot easier, so can a Coke machine with the right ingredient in it.. ;D ;D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #309 on: September 11, 2014, 01:45:15 AM »
Well, the right stuff in this one would have to be non alcoholic.  :(
O'Douls is ok, the amber is much better to me than the regular. St. Pauli's Girl was one of my favorites back when I drank the real stuff, but the n/a version isn't that good. Haven't found a dark version of that one. Now if Heineken would make one that would be perfect.
It is setup as a bottle dispenser, not sure about the actual age of it, but from what searching I have done it looks like early to mid 70's. I'd be seeing it it works ok here (only tried it in Ohio) but afraid it would run up the electrical too much right now. I need to move it, it is on an east facing outside wall right now. One of these days.  :-[ I could barely get it inside as it was by myself. When we first moved in the room was too full to have the nephews helping us do it. So I ended up doing it alone, as usual.  :'(

I have my first project on the bench. ;D I tore down the 8inch rear and the housing is on the bench (on plastic trash bags) waiting to be cleaned up/stripped/painted. There is quite a bit of grease/grime on the bottom where the pumpkin goes. Otherwise it is pretty clean of grease/grime.  The housing was very clean of gear oil, this rear had to have been apart recently, or at least since it was last used. Which I figured on seeing as it had only 3 nuts on the pumpkin. Problem is I seem to be sensitive to gear oil smell. It's making me feel pretty bad even though there really isn't any liquid. I have the rest of it in the same enclosed carport as well. Health-wise it would be best for it to be outside for me, but I don't want to get anything ruined either. I'm already ruined. :-\

I still haven't finished taking the second leaf spring assembly apart. I need to do that soon, my plan/hope is to have the rear and springs ready to go when I get all the bushings and hardware in the next week or so. I will just put the bare rear housing on, the plan is to get different gears for it, and also I need to have the axle bearings replaced. Along with having them re-drilled for 5 lugs. Plus it will just plain be much easier for me to deal with a bare housing when I install it. I can deadlift the full rear, but I doubt if I could bench press it. Working alone I have to keep safety in mind, even when it is a hit to my ego.

I'm also supposed to be getting the tach and gas gauge I just bought in the next couple of days. That will be everything but a speedometer. Oil pressure, H2O temp, volts, gas, and rpms. If this was a race car I wouldn't need the speedo.  ;D
I am going to try to get the new instrument panel made before I start working. Still debating from the thread in the off topic section about using aluminum or wood. I have the wood I would want to use. Would still have to buy the aluminum. I think the aluminum I would be getting would be too thin to be used without a backing anyway. So wood looks like the winner, but I feel like I am cheating by using that. I have found some engine turned vinyl that would be going over the panel no matter what I use to make it, so it really doesn't matter, it will look the same either way. Only I would know for sure. Or is that only her hairdresser knows for sure. ? ;D (something for the older ones (like me) among us)

On the job front, I got my first day instructions but still have no clue about my actual schedule. The first day is just orientation and things like safety training. It is looking like I start at 6am. But I don't know if it is an 8 hour or 12 hour day, and what days. This is very stressful to me. I haven't even started and already part of me wants to tell them to "take this job and ..... it".  >:( Problem is it really does seem like if I get interviewed I don't get the job.  :-[

Oh, and in other news, I found that the small window that the enclosed carport has (in addition to the patio doors) does have a screen frame. Screen is totally missing though. I meant to get to HD today to buy some new screening and the rubber insert thing that holds it in, but didn't make it there. I am hoping having that window open will help with both the heat and now the gear oil odor. It isn't a huge window, maybe 12x16 or so, but it's a lot better than nothing. I was out there last night organizing my sockets in the drawers of the new bench with a fan blowing and both the patio door and the window open. It wasn't too bad. Felt like it dropped the temp at least 20 degrees over when it is closed up at the same time of night.  8)

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #310 on: September 11, 2014, 08:08:30 AM »
Humidity went down big time yesterday, could work outside without flooding the place with sweat, lol..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #311 on: September 12, 2014, 02:15:10 AM »
It was still pretty bad here, at least to me. Although tonight I didn't get anything done, so I don't know how it was.


Depression ess you see kks.
For no apparent reason I just went into a really deep hole tonight. One of those "if I had a gun" types.
Then I find out that I have about a few days if that left of my antidepressant . Oh joy. Starting off a new job I already hate and I won't be on my "barely keeps me from killing myself" pills. Should be a fun week.

On a different note I got the tach and gas gauge today. Have to see if I can get the dash panel done or not. Right now when I look at the Pinto all I see is a pile of scrap. Yes, due to the depression, but odds are it is going to get worse, not better.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #312 on: September 12, 2014, 08:09:17 AM »
Hang in there Russ, better days are coming..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #313 on: September 16, 2014, 11:01:29 PM »
Hang, he said. HAHAHAHAHA.
OOPs, probably not funny.

I got the leaf springs completely apart finally yesterday. Had to take a BFH to get the larger bushings out. One of these days maybe I can get another hyd. press.
That's about all I have gotten done.

I had my first day at Intel today. Was just an orientation, about 6 hours. I still don't know anything about the actual job yet. I may not find out until Thursday.

I probably will be a lot slower on the Pinto now. It will take me quite a while to get used to working again, especially if it is for 12 hours a day.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #314 on: September 17, 2014, 07:52:03 AM »
Wife did that 12hr thing at Motorola 6-6 nights for a year, they called it "compressed work week", work only 4 days but never had 3 days off in a row and always had to work either Saturday or Sunday your choice, that sucked big time.. :( :(
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #315 on: September 17, 2014, 08:04:47 AM »
I do 12 hour shifts every other weekend, but it gives me an extra day off on the opposite weekend.  The end result is that I never work more than four consecutive days... and often only two or three.  Not bad.  It's all in what you get used to. 


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #316 on: September 17, 2014, 08:10:26 AM »
Not bad if you can work it all in a row, but when they split it up that sucks you never can do anything.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #317 on: September 17, 2014, 10:44:55 PM »
Intel's general way of doing it is 4 days one week, 3 days the next. Like Wed thru Sat, then Wed thru Friday. All days are in a row.
I still don't know. I am going to be working what Intel calls shift 7. But no clue yet about days/hours. Find out in about 10 hours I guess. Been trying to find that out on line, but haven't been able to yet.
I'm really worried about some physical problems I have. Bad back, bad knees, bad bladder. The last could be a real problem if I have to get out of the bunny suit every hour to go to the restroom. Taking a bunch of Saw Palmeto, but don't know if that is going to help enough. I might be back to unemployed this time tomorrow.

the job search continues regardless. This job has a countdown clock already started on it by Intel. I don't want to be in this position in a year from now, or even sooner. Having a job takes some pressure off of the search, but knowing that it is a job with no future puts some of the pressure back.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #318 on: September 17, 2014, 11:59:47 PM »
That's understandable, but best of luck regardless!
 
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #319 on: September 18, 2014, 08:02:00 AM »
That's not bad working straight through, wife hated that bunny suit or the job she said it was a Zombie job, LOL.. Anyhow, best of luck in the quest..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #320 on: September 19, 2014, 10:23:35 PM »
Thanks.
I am beat already.
Schedule is: 6a to 6p. Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. And then every other Wednesday.
No clean room. Thank God. I'd be gone already as much as I have to go to the restroom. I'd be suiting and unsuiting for most of the day. But where I am at I can take as many restroom trips as I need to. Averaging about 12 per 12 hour shift so far. That should come down once I get adjusted to this new schedule and the saw palmetto kicks in. Job is too easy, no electronics. I am testing micro processors, but it is a setup and let the computer run the test thing, and no troubleshootin g if they fail. for me this is a real brainless job, but it is a job for now.

Don't know when I will get back to the Pinto. I don't think I could lift a screwdriver right now. I should be in bed already, I have to get up at 4am. I just need more than one hour to decompress when I get home, so 8pm bedtime isn't working so far. More like 9-10. Eventually I will get so exhausted I will be able to just come home and collapse. I was doing that at GE back in Ohio. It was not good for me though. That was when I tried to kill myself. At least here it is only 3 or 4 days a week, there it was always 5. I need a mental relaxation break every day.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #321 on: September 20, 2014, 12:47:29 AM »
Russ,
 
I am definitely NOT a morning person, so I can sympathize with you on the shift you're working.  On the other hand, the working conditions sound like they are better than you had feared.  As you said, it's a job!  The money it brings in should help lessen the tensions that unemployment caused.  I've always heard that it's easier to find a job when you're employed than when you're not, so let's hope this will be the springboard to something better!
 
Get some rest and take care.
 
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #322 on: September 20, 2014, 08:10:53 AM »
Don't sound bad at all and a good shift :D you'll get used to it before you know it, you're lucky not to get that clean room.. Good luck and get some rest. 8)
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #323 on: September 23, 2014, 02:29:35 PM »
Well,, I agree with your wife about the Zombie Job comment.
This job is pretty much brainless for me. It's like taking a jet mechanic and having him work on tricycles. Literally. And being told that people find it difficult.

And further proof I have my own personal black cloud. Payday is supposed to be this Friday. Well, since my manager or whoever didn't approve my time sheet I am not going to get paid this week. Next payday is two weeks after that, which will be when I get paid. Going to be rough, was really counting on that money this week.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #324 on: September 23, 2014, 02:38:49 PM »
Look on the bright side, when you do get paid you'll have an extra week's pay.lol..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #325 on: September 23, 2014, 07:56:35 PM »
Yeah. If I have enough money for gas. If we don't starve. If the people we told we would pay some on the bills we owe don't freak.  Etc.
We were really counting on that money being here Friday. I really should know better.

Russ' Law. Murphy and Jones were on happy pills.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #326 on: September 23, 2014, 08:10:14 PM »
I had actually bid on a fuel cell listed on ebay Sunday night. I was the high bidder for quite awhile, but just after I bid I was like "you idiot, what the heck are you doing? You had better get outbid or else." fortunately I did.
Like I said, I should really know better. If there is any possibility at all of something getting screwed up, I will be the one it happens too.
I strive to be as happy as Charlie Brown. Maybe someday I will get that happy.
About 20 some odd years ago I had a counselor I was seeing. He couldn't decide if I was Charlie Brown or Eeyore.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #327 on: September 23, 2014, 09:43:34 PM »
Yeah. If I have enough money for gas. If we don't starve. If the people we told we would pay some on the bills we owe don't freak.  Etc.
We were really counting on that money being here Friday. I really should know better.

Russ' Law. Murphy and Jones were on happy pills.

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Don't worry it'll all fall into place.. ;)
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #328 on: September 24, 2014, 09:31:00 PM »
We'll see. If I don't get paid Friday it will be borrowing from the parents again. At 55 I had really hoped that I would be past that.
But at least for now we aren't living with them
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #329 on: September 24, 2014, 09:45:36 PM »
We'll see. If I don't get paid Friday it will be borrowing from the parents again. At 55 I had really hoped that I would be past that.
But at least for now we aren't living with them
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Well, that's something to be thankful for.. :D
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