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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #210 on: August 18, 2014, 10:51:40 PM »
Are you talking about something like this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Taper-Mounted-Medium-Jacobs-Series/dp/B0067BSHUG/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1408420029&sr=8-6&keywords=jt3+chuck

The description doesn't mention plain old hand drills, but if it works that would be great.
 
I almost had a heart attack  :o when I googled the Jacobs and saw a bunch in the $100 or more price range before I found this one.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #211 on: August 18, 2014, 10:53:32 PM »
Yep, just get one for you're shaft thread size.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #212 on: August 18, 2014, 10:56:59 PM »
Ok, time to look stupid.
How do I find that out?
btw, this is the drill I currently have.
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-DR260B-8-Inch-Driver/dp/B004FRXWRW/ref=sr_1_4?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1408420674&sr=1-4&keywords=drill
I don't think it is worth the effort after reading the write up on amazon.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #213 on: August 19, 2014, 07:56:13 AM »
Take the chuck off and measure the shaft :D, Put a key in the chuck and whack it with a hammer it should pop off..

Don't know about that one, my old B&D is about 30yrs old, lol.. ;D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #214 on: August 20, 2014, 12:43:11 AM »

Thanks.

My B&D is for "light duty" according to the online description. It didn't say anything like that on the box when I bought it. I am sure I thought it wasn't the best, but at the time it was affordable.  :( I wasn't planning on drilling holes in a bunch of fairly thick steel angle. This drill is best for driving screws and drilling into walls to hang curtains and stuff.

I'll have to see if I can get the drill bit out. It is blocking where the screw is for the chuck. I don't have much to lose, it isn't going to work the way it is now.  ;D

I did get another drill today, got home too late to try it out. I honestly should have just waited, but that is something I have never been good at.  :-[
I did get a new set of drill bits. I haven't been looking for bits for quite a while. They have these ones now that are shaped to fit the chuck, instead of being round.Yes, that is news to me.  :-[ So I got a $15 set of Milwaukee bits. I might have had better luck with the keyless chuck with this style.

While we were out getting "craft stuff" for the wife, I got a call for an interview tomorrow. It is for a job I had written off, I had applied for it about a month ago. So maybe things are picking up in the job front. Although until I get an offer it won't have picked up enough.  ::)

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #215 on: August 20, 2014, 03:19:36 AM »
I got a call for an interview tomorrow. It is for a job I had written off, I had applied for it about a month ago. So maybe things are picking up in the job front. Although until I get an offer it won't have picked up enough.  ::)


Good luck with the interview!  Hope it all works out!

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #216 on: August 20, 2014, 08:02:57 AM »
I got a call for an interview tomorrow. It is for a job I had written off, I had applied for it about a month ago. So maybe things are picking up in the job front.

Russ
Best of luck Russ, hope it works out for ya..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #217 on: August 20, 2014, 06:38:05 PM »
Thanks.
The interview went well. I am one of 5 people they are interviewing, there is just one more to go. I should hear something by Friday. Would be a good place to work.

Problem is now I am tired out and need a nap or at least a lay down before I can go try out the new drill.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #218 on: August 21, 2014, 02:32:07 AM »
Well, I didn't get anything done. My nap turned into a 3.5 hour snooze.  :-[
I have to get up early again tomorrow(well later today now) to take my wife to the dr. So maybe I can get some done afterwards.
I need to, I am starting to feel like a slug. Tuesday would have been a great day to do some except for the rain. But it was the rain that caused the temps to be in the 70's. Not bad for a mid-august day in Phoenix.  8)

I had a strange thought. :o I was looking at the bumper mounts, what the manual calls the isolators, and was wondering why couldn't I take them to a machine shop, have the inner part pressed out, take the rubber off, and then reinsert the metal part. This would let me easily move the bumper while using the stock mounting points on the frame. Would just have to drill some holes once I got the position right.
Any thoughts on this?  :-\

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #219 on: August 21, 2014, 05:04:02 PM »
Almost done with the battery/storage box frame. The new drill works well so far. It has a LOT more torque than the other. The bit grabbed and I almost went flying.  :o Next time I will be ready. No more toy drill.  ;D

Got it primered. I want to paint it even though it won't show. Just have to decide if it is worth the money right now. And the wait. Not supposed to recoat over the primer for 24 hours. Being in Phoenix normally I could cut that down, but today is pretty cool for here and high humidity. Not exactly oven like conditions.  ;D

I used Rustoleum heavy rust primer, the brush on type. I would rather use spray cans, but that gets expensive fast. I will probably have to use the brush on for the color as well. Only $8 a quart, not too bad even for me. The spray cans are like $6 or so and don't cover as much. I guess I will paint it black, that way if any shows after I am done it won't stand out, going to be a black interior. I think. Either that or a dark gray/black combo. :-\

I was looking at the battery tray area from the outer side. I think I am going to just cut out all of the tray area, so I can just use a flat piece of steel to patch it. Remove all the part that "sticks out" into the wheel well area, if that makes it clearer. Sucks that the battery corrosion ruined it. But it is ruined, it isn't worth repairing it back to stock for me since I won't be using that for the battery.

Still no word from either of the two interviews yet. I'm not holding my breath. :(

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #220 on: August 21, 2014, 06:26:41 PM »
I decided to be constructively destructive.  ;D

I went out and cut out the bad area on the passenger side. I cut more than was bad to a point, but my intent was to make the replacement be as flat as possible. I think I did that as well as I could. I will have to see how it looks once I get some sheet metal. That may not be for a bit.  :(

I left a bit of the tray mount bracket (?) at the top. I didn't want to cut that far up. So I will have to get out the spot weld bit and see if I can get it off without doing too much damage. And hope there isn't any corrosion behind it.

Now I am ready to remove the harness and all bolt on stuff I can and start wire wheeling the engine compartment inside and out. This is what I bought the primer and will be buying the black top coat for. The battery/storage box frame is just practice painting. I just have to decide how much to remove. I want to remove EVERYTHING, brakes, front suspension, anything that bolts on. But I just am not sure I should at this point. Decisions, decisions.  :-\ It will be a LONG time before I can buy new suspension stuff, and I know I won't want to put the old stuff back on once I get everything nice and painted. But this car HAS to stay a roller at the very least for my sanity.  :-[

Going to head out to get some liquid supplies in a bit. Cans of diet pop/soda. I am almost out. Can't work without it.  ;D   I will get the black paint as well. Then that is it for spending for now. With the drill I have spent way too much this week as it is.  :(

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #221 on: August 21, 2014, 09:50:21 PM »
I think I got a little carried away.
Pictures later tonight.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #222 on: August 22, 2014, 12:32:16 AM »
Here are some lousy pictures. It is currently raining here.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #223 on: August 22, 2014, 12:37:26 AM »
Here's the last couple of pictures for now. I'll see if I can get better ones during daylight tomorrow.

I took everything off that is bolted on except for the suspension and brakes. Even the steering column, clutch and throttle cables. OOPS, I just remembered I haven't taken the windshield washer squirters off yet. I meant to earlier, I forgot to grab a phillips screwdriver.

I really don't want to mess with the brake lines, will have to see how it goes. Suspension/frame I am going to try to wait on until I have new parts to put on. But then again I said early on that I wasn't going to take this car apart.  :-[

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #224 on: August 22, 2014, 06:36:08 PM »
I got an email a little while ago. I didn't get the job I just interviewed for. This is getting very depressing. :( :( :( :( :( :'(

I found a couple more things I missed taking off. So I took them off. I hope I am doing the right thing. I have this voice inside saying I will never get this car back together, and I certainly have the history to back that up. :-[

I also found something I hadn't noticed before. The driver's side front half of the fender well (from the repair) is from a different car. I should have realised that before. I think I really am getting stupider as I get older. :(

I was hoping to get a lot done today, but frankly I just don't feel up to it right now.

here a few better pictures.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #225 on: August 22, 2014, 08:32:32 PM »
Keep looking and don't give up on the job front! More aggressive applicants, for me anyway, are the ones I look at the most and put a lot of weight on.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #226 on: August 22, 2014, 09:34:54 PM »
Thanks. I wish I was dealing with hiring people like you. Most of the applications I put in are online with no name to even contact. Or with recruiters from temp agencies, and when I ask how things are going after a week or so I get the "I'll let you know when I hear anything" response. I have had very few contacts with anyone at an actual hiring company.

I think I have 8 weeks left of unemployment, I need to double check that. After that it is time to panic. Although I am already panicking. Let's all say "would you like fries with that?".
 
My brother (the CEO/President of his company) asked the person who does his recruiting to look at my resume and to give any thoughts. The resume is good(it should be, he did it) and the only recommendation s she gave were things I am already doing. She generally just does higher level job types, we were hoping she might know people who are recruiting more at my level/job type.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #227 on: August 22, 2014, 09:41:31 PM »
I forced myself to go out and do a little.

I wire wheeled the passenger side inner fender, just the engine side. Got it primered. And I painted the battery/storage box frame. I can't decide if I am going to paint the underneath part of it or just go ahead and mount it. I am thinking just mount it, so at least I can point to something and say it is finished. I have the wood and hinges for the lid, so once the frame is mounted that will be the next step. I really need to get something completed just for my sanity.  :-[

I still need to get that last bit of the battery tray piece off. I just didn't feel up to being destructive right now. No rush, the car certainly isn't going anywhere any time soon.  :-[

They both look a lot better in pictures than they do in person. Although I did learn a bit, I was trying to make the paint go to far. It works better if I just do a small area with a lot of paint instead of trying to make that same amount cover a larger area. I would really be better with a spray can, but I need to learn to do it this way. Using cheap foam brushes, which isn't helping I am sure. I'll check out both tomorrow after they have fully dried and see how they turned out. The fender well actually doesn't look too bad now, it is much better than the frame was after I primered it, so I am getting there.  ;D

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #228 on: August 22, 2014, 09:58:18 PM »
Looks good..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #229 on: August 23, 2014, 12:53:13 AM »
Thanks.

I am really hoping to get it done this weekend so I can put it all back together. I obviously won't be able to get it completely done until I can get some metal to replace what I cut out, and I want to try to make the repair on the driver's side look better. But that can always be done later. I just need to not let the car sit like this very long. Too depressing. Plus too much of a risk of me forgetting how to put it back together.  :-[ :o

The new drill is holding up so far. But the wire wheeling is harder than I thought. That is why I only got the one panel done today. Hopefully I can get an earlier start tomorrow, we (meaning my wife  ::) )don't have any other plans that I know of.

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« Reply #230 on: August 23, 2014, 07:38:22 AM »
Well, it's a good time to get things done weather is great for the next few days.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #231 on: August 23, 2014, 11:44:45 PM »
Well, I got a little done today. I primered the front side of the radiator support.

But I actually got better news.  ;D

First, my car guy friend brought over my old compressor I had totally forgotten about.  ;D
I had given it to him around 11 years ago when I bought a big vertical one. He never really used it and just had it in his storage shed. It is a CH 3.5 horse 11gallon. It still works, but it seemed to get really hot. So I will have to see if it lasts. I don't remember if it needs oil or anything else. Don't have the manual, maybe I can find it online. One real problem I can fix right away is that the plug is tarnished. I need to find my emery cloth and clean that up. That could be why it is getting hot, working too hard with too little current.
And I kept my air tools when we moved from Ohio. So I have an air ratchet, an impact wrench, and I think a sander. Plus lots of compressor rated sockets. Not the highest quality, almost all is CH stuff. But not that bad either.  :o

Second, I got a GM alternator.  ;D ;D ;D
l have been wanting a CS 130 or 144, but didn't have the money to get one. I have the hook up kit for this left over from the Lemans, which is the only real reason I didn't go with a Ford 3G.

Even used on CL they have been out of my price range. :(
 Last night for some reason I checked out an ad that said 3800 stuff. Turns out the guy had an alternator from a 96 Pontiac Bonneville and only wanted $5. So this afternoon off to Mesa we went. I am not absolutely sure, but according to what I have found online this is a CS 130. External cooling fan eliminates the 144 according to everything I have read.

One of the things I do is read the CL ads just in case, and for window shopping. Keeps me busy sometimes.  ::)

It is possible that it could be a CS 121( I think that is the third option), but even that will work.

I am going to try to find out for sure, I have a few websites saved about this. I never thought I would find one so cheap.  :o It is supposed to be good with 80K miles, but even if it isn't it will work as a mockup for the mounting. And be a core charge. But unless it is just totally shot, I am going to do the Iceberg modification to it, either the standard or the 140Amp version, both are relatively inexpensive. Did I mention I only paid $5? ;D ;D ;D

Mentally I am doing the happy dance.  ;D :P

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #232 on: August 24, 2014, 02:11:23 AM »
Well, I can't be 100% sure, but it is looking like my engine is at least an 86. I posted about the bellhousing in the General Help section, it has an E6 part number and I was told it is for a T5. So I did some searching and lots of reading and found the Joe Escobar fix for using this bellhousing in a Pinto. Seems to be the way to go instead of hunting for a D9 and doing all the stuff for that.

Gee, with the Mustang cast iron exhaust header and the T5 housing, too bad it doesn't have the EFI manifold. And of course the stupid T5 trans itself. I wouldn't bet against the former owner having sold it. Yes, the one who didn't even say "sorry" when I discovered there was no trans like he said there was.  >:( But it gives me something to look for once I can start junkyarding again. I want to go to Tucson, they have a Pull a Part there. I like their way of upfront pricing. None of the Phoenix upull yards seem to do that.

Now if I could only get a job.  :'(

Thanks,
Russ
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #233 on: August 24, 2014, 07:13:22 AM »
Great score on that alternator (and air compressor too, for that matter) - maybe things are starting to turn around for you! Hope so anyway!


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #234 on: August 24, 2014, 08:17:01 AM »
Great score there..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #235 on: August 24, 2014, 03:00:44 PM »
Thanks.

Now I am scared to go out, something is liable to fall out of the sky and hit me. Not kill, just maim.  ::)

It looks like the alternator is a 140A unit. At least all of the replacement ones I have found online are rated at that for that car. But even if it is just 120A I am very happy.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #236 on: August 24, 2014, 05:38:09 PM »
I hate getting old. I am not sure if it is from the wire wheeling or a pinched nerve or something, but I woke up today with my right hand numb from about the middle finger out. Several hours later and it is still numb. It's happened once or twice before.
So anyway I am not going to be doing much today. I am going to see if I can get that battery/storage box frame bolted in place, and start working on making a template for the lid. I've got to get something accomplished at least. Although even for this I need to run to the hardware store and get a few more grade 8 nuts and bolts. I forgot to account for the installation when I bought the ones I have been using.

Man, it is even very hard to type with my hand like this.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #237 on: August 24, 2014, 07:39:21 PM »
Sounds like a pinched nerve, I have the same thing in one foot it's from sciatic nerve in a once screwed up back, my foot is half asleep all the time very irritating..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #238 on: August 24, 2014, 10:11:56 PM »
I need to get to a chiropractor, but that takes $. I'm stupid, I spend it on the Pinto instead of me. But the Pinto is more fun than I am.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #239 on: August 25, 2014, 01:36:11 AM »
Am I this confused, or is someone else, or are these cars really so different between certain years? :-\
I have a 74 wagon with the 6.75 rear, if that may make a difference. Came with the 2.0L from the factory(but is long gone now).

I was reading a 4 year old post about wagon shocks, since I have a wagon.  ;D
the last post was from someone who said he was using 1977 Nova shocks on his 75 wagon. Well, the 77 Nova uses this type of shock
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/KYB-Gas-a-Just-Shock-Strut-Rear/1977-Chevrolet-Nova/_/N-inbleZ8oxxx?itemIdentifier=754887_6880_7413_
that has Upper Mount Type:    Eyelet with slotted barpin Lower Mount Type:    Eyelet with bushing and metal sleeve.
I went out and got under the rear of the car for pretty much the first time, other than a quick glance at the rear axle early on. My car certainly does not use that type of shock. It uses the "stud" type at both ends.

BTW, I have air shocks. I did not know that until now. But the lines are cut, so I have no idea if they still work. But that makes sense with the bumper hitch it has. As far as I could see with the flashlight, it is all pretty clean and solid under there.  ;D

I also found out that there is a crossmember going across the car right where I put the rear most piece of my battery/storage box frame. I had drilled 5/16th holes to bolt that down. I had looked just enough to make sure I wasn't going to hit the tank.
This is the same place that the factory folding seat hinge went( the rear most piece that goes between the rear fender wells), I was using those 4 larger holes, 2 per side. Now I see why sheet metal screws were used from the factory. grrrrr. Guess I will have to default to my other idea of using L brackets to attach that 2x2 tube to the floor. I want it bolted, not screwed. Enough of what I do ends up screwed.  ;D

I thought these cars didn't have a rear subframe, maybe technically there isn't one, but there sure is enough support to be close.

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.