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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #180 on: August 09, 2014, 07:22:31 PM »
Hi Russ,


I think there is a Flasher inside the dash above the glove box. 

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #181 on: August 10, 2014, 12:48:01 AM »
Thanks. I found the hazard flasher, but not a turn signal one. But I haven't really looked hard yet.
There is also a chance I didn't get the steering column connector back together all the way. Or even that the turn signal switch itself is bad.
I need to get busy on this.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #182 on: August 10, 2014, 07:39:46 AM »
Thanks, but sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel IS a train.  ::)
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Just have to make it turn around and go the other way. ;) :D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #183 on: August 11, 2014, 06:18:38 PM »
Yeah, that way it can run me over twice.  ;D

I got the front bumper apart, although now I am wondering what I am going to do with it since the "simple fat bumper fix" isn't going to work for me. Thinking about slapping the front fenders back on and mounting the mounts to the frame and seeing how close things line up.  :-\

Lost my train of thought. My wife just interrupted me to ask if I had heard that Robin Williams died.  :(

Back to important stuff (unless you are related to him or a friend of his that is).

I took a couple of quick pictures of the carnage. I am wondering if there is a market for the bumper bumpers? My mind is blanking on the right name, getting to be a common problem for me. I never liked the looks of them anyway, so they won't be going back on. Neither will the rear ones once I get that far.I hate getting old, my mind is going away.  :(

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #184 on: August 11, 2014, 08:18:28 PM »
WOW, I actually did something other than take apart.  :o

I did a lot of cutting with the grinder ( I really need a chop saw bad) and got the basic box done that will be the battery/storage area. It needs lots of fine tuning, I am not that great of a cutter with a grinder (or hacksaw sometimes), but I cut it big intentionally so I could trim it down to the exact size after fitting it in the car.
I do plan on adding more support along the middle, both upright and along the top.

And yes, this is the old AC roof mount from last month's AC replacement. Free metal is hard to beat.  ;D

I am going to have to move the starter solenoid to the side of the battery box though. Not a big deal, just another OOPS.  :-[

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #185 on: August 11, 2014, 09:51:34 PM »
That's looking pretty good..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #186 on: August 11, 2014, 11:32:50 PM »
Thanks, but it has a long way to go before it is finished.
Once it is all fitted I will be sanding and painting it.
I hope to be able to weld it up also, but that is iffy. So it is nuts and bolts for now. Although I might have better luck welding this. It is a lot thicker and I wouldn't be so concerned about blowing thru it, so maybe I can relax and get a decent bead. I have some leftovers that I plan to try welding later on. Once I see just how much is leftover that is. Still need quite a bit of structure. I want to be able to sit on this and have it support me, it would never see that big a load again.  ;D

Still don't really have a clue what to use for the skin. Thin stuff for the front is fine, but the lid does need to be able to support some weight. Might have to go woody on it.  ;D Whatever I end up using will be covered with carpet though. The goal is stealth.  8)

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #187 on: August 12, 2014, 06:35:16 AM »
That's looking pretty good..

I agree!

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #188 on: August 12, 2014, 07:49:21 AM »
Thanks, but it has a long way to go before it is finished.
Once it is all fitted I will be sanding and painting it.
I hope to be able to weld it up also, but that is iffy. So it is nuts and bolts for now. Although I might have better luck welding this. It is a lot thicker and I wouldn't be so concerned about blowing thru it, so maybe I can relax and get a decent bead. I have some leftovers that I plan to try welding later on. Once I see just how much is leftover that is. Still need quite a bit of structure. I want to be able to sit on this and have it support me, it would never see that big a load again.  ;D

Still don't really have a clue what to use for the skin. Thin stuff for the front is fine, but the lid does need to be able to support some weight. Might have to go woody on it.  ;D Whatever I end up using will be covered with carpet though. The goal is stealth.  8)

Russ
Myself I would use wood for the top and maybe 1/16" aluminum sheet on the front.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #189 on: August 12, 2014, 04:14:21 PM »
Yeah, wood would definitely be easier for sure.  ;D Probably the strongest as well. Plus it will be easy to cut it to fit the curves. The plan is for the lid and the front of the box to go completely across from side panel to side panel. I don't want this to look like a hack job.  :-X
I am going to take off the one part of the folding seat that is still there. I thought it would help me, but it really won't. Especially if I go with the wood.

I will have to go to that Industrial Metals store again when I get some extra cash. They had some aluminum that would be perfect for this at a good price.  ;D

We need to go out and about soon, I am hoping to get home in time to do some more cutting for the box frame. I need to buy some quality nuts and bolts to put it together, going to try to squeeze that out of the budget. Pretty sad when spending $5 is a major event.  :-[

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #190 on: August 14, 2014, 12:24:54 AM »
Oh, woe is me. This is just me complaining again.

I would say I am depressed, but that word might trigger a bunch of stuff right now.
So let's say I am down in the dumps. And not the dumps where you can find neat stuff for free.
 
I want to go work on the Pinto, but right now everything I want to do makes too much noise for this time of night and location.

Can't drill holes.

Can't run the grinder.
 
Can't run the drill with a wire wheel to clean up the engine compartment.

Can't watch anything much on TV, we just had to lower our service to local only channels. Finances. Haven't been watching much on TV anyway. But it is still a kick in the crotch.
 
I suppose I could take the engine compartment wiring harness back off the car. Everything I modified so far on it works and it needs to come back out so I can do the engine compartment cleaning/painting. But that should take all of 10 minutes, if I go slow.

I could take the rest of the carpet out, but actually it is kind of nice to have it to sit on when I am working inside the car.
 
I suppose I could put the good steering wheel on the car and go "VROOM, VROOM for awhile, until they come to take me away, haha,hehe, hoho, to the funny farm, where life is beautif...    STOP IT RUSS!!!!!

Or maybe I should go clean and organize the enclosed carport, what my wife calls the garage room.  Probably the thing to do, I need to do laundry anyway and it is out there.

Or just stay here in front of the computer and veg. But that is what is making me crazy.

Will Russ do laundry? Will he just watch more "Whose Line Is It, Anyway" on Youtube? Will he just sink lower into insanity?

Stay tuned tomorrow, same Pinto time, same Pinto station.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #191 on: August 14, 2014, 07:25:30 AM »
I think at 12:24:54 AM it's time to get some shut eye not work on the Pinto.. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #192 on: August 14, 2014, 03:33:17 PM »
That's early for me.  ;D

I am really internally wired as a night person. That is like 5pm to you day types for me. I can and have worked day shift before, but even then on weekends I would go into my night person routine. That would drive my wife nuts.  ;D
If I ever get another job  :'( I will go with whatever schedule that has.

If anyone is interested I ended up doing laundry and unpacking a few more boxes. Found a couple of missing tools, but now I am worried. I am out of boxes to unpack from my garage in Ohio, and I seem to be missing quite a lot of tools. A wrench here, a socket there. I could have lost them years ago for all I know. I've never been super organized when it comes to keeping tools in one place. Trying to work on that, it can be expensive to keep losing things.  :-[ Problem  is that I can set something down and then in 5 minutes I can't remember where I put the stupid thing.  :-[

I need to get a bit more awake and go out and make some noise.  ;D

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #193 on: August 14, 2014, 07:40:06 PM »
Don't feel bad I only moved 180mi and I'm still looking for stuff after 2 1/2yrs, LOL.. ;D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #194 on: August 14, 2014, 11:48:46 PM »
I did get a bit done today.

While I was working on the storage box I noticed that the lid for the battery box might not be able to be removed if I installed the frame I am building at the height and length I had planned. The storage lid would have cleared, but the frame itself would have been partially blocking.  :-[

So, with not lowering the top as much as I wanted to puts the height at about 4 inches above the cargo floor counting the wooden lid once I get it. I was hoping for just 2 at most. But I guess it just means I will get a little more hidden storage out of all this. Just going to make this a bit more obvious.  :(
It's a good thing I hadn't trimmed the uprights of the frame earlier, that would have caused a do over.  :-[ :-[ :-[

Plan is that tomorrow I will do what I can with what is left of the metal to do some extra bracing, and then wire wheel it and paint it with some Rustoleum rusty metal primer I bought. I actually bought it for the engine compartment, but I need to practice brushing it on. Then it will sit until I get some more money for the lid wood and the front aluminum.

The bad news is now that I have cut up all this metal, I don't have a "work bench" anymore. I was using the AC mount that all this metal is from as a bit of a work bench. Maybe someday I can build another bench like I did in Ohio. All it takes is money. Or a truck. I have seen a few free ones on craigslist here, but I'd need a truck to get them. And a friend to help load and unload, and I am a bit short on that end here as well.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #195 on: August 15, 2014, 07:27:08 AM »
Russ,


Glad to know you are back working on your Pinto!


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #196 on: August 15, 2014, 02:00:10 PM »
Yeah, off and on a bit. Being out in the heat yesterday really took a toll on me.  :-[ I was even working in front of a fairly big fan as much as possible. Burning myself on a hot drill bit didn't help I am sure.  :'(

Today's plans got put on hold. I got woke up at 10am with a phone call asking if I could interview today. Of course I said yes. It's the opposite end of town from me, Chandler. I'm northwest valley, that is southeast valley. But it could be a really good job. So I likely won't get it.  ::)

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #197 on: August 15, 2014, 08:56:54 PM »
I was in Cave Creek today and picked up a parts truck, that was an interesting trip. :D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #198 on: August 15, 2014, 11:38:44 PM »
Gee, and you didn't even drop by.  ;D

The interview went ok. I didn't stay focused enough though, talked about the Pinto and Ohio.
It's a new position for this company, whoever gets it will be doing all the startup stuff to get a test bench going. Equipment, procedures, spare parts. The company repairs/refurbs mechanical airplane parts and is just starting to get into the electronics side of aviation.

Hopefully tomorrow I can get back to the Pinto. Shouldn't be any unexpected calls about interviews for sure.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #199 on: August 16, 2014, 07:48:54 AM »
It was a quick turn around. ;D

Sounds like a good deal, fingers are crossed for ya..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #200 on: August 16, 2014, 08:55:02 AM »
The thing about interviews is you just never know.  Here's wishing you luck!


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #201 on: August 17, 2014, 02:36:37 AM »
Thanks. I need all the help I can get.  :-[

A friend came over today to see the Pinto. He's been my best friend since we were freshmen in high school. Another car guy. He owned a Pinto wagon back in the 80's for a while. His wife made him trade in his high school 67 Mustang for it. grrr. I had a 69 in school, and another really good friend had a 64 and a 1/2. This was in during the 1976/77 school year.
Anyway, he brought over a copy of the Peterson Pinto book he had from back then. Nice book, but even though the date on it was 79, it really seemed only for the 70-72 Pintos. 1.6 and 2.0 engines only. a bit disappointing to me, was hoping it had the later models as well.  :(

I didn't get anything done on the car today. However I did buy some sort of wood for the lid. Attic/roofing sheathing. Was $4.19 or something for a 2x4 piece 7/16th's thick. I bought two. I had really wanted 3/4 plywood, but even the 2x4 of that was over $19 each. It would have been cheaper to buy a 4x8 of the plywood than 2 of the smaller plywood ones, but I can't handle or transport anything that big.  :-[
This cheap stuff will work. It is going to be covered anyway. Maybe I won't be able to sit on the lid, but realistically, how often will I be carrying well over 300 lbs of cargo on the lid anyway? I just have to remember to save money where I can even when it goes against my grain.
I will probably just use this for the whole box, not just the lid. Again, going to have carpet on it whether I use this or aluminum. And wood is easier for me to work with since I don't have much in the way of metal working tools. I need to do the lid first. Plan I guess is to split one of the pieces in half, and cut each half to follow the inner quarter panel curve since at the front I need about 53 inches wide. The part in the rear is about 43inches wide. Then use some of the second 2x4 piece to fill in the center, and see what I have left for the rest of the box. At $4.19ish, I can buy another one if I need to.  I may end up making a false front for this box as a subwoofer box anyway. I just don't want to use up all the space behind the front seats. Makes me a tad claustrophobic doing stuff like that. Seriously. I wasn't real claustrophobic before I served on the submarine, but afterwards I have noticed it getting worse as I age.

I did some thrift store shopping today as well. I sold a remote oil filter kit (would be ridiculous on a 2.3L with the filter right there) I had saved from the Lemans project. Got a whole $20 for it, but I only paid $25, so I am not upset about giving something away for once. This was the last of the Lemans stuff I had saved. Kind of a sad moment really. :'(
 Anyway, one thing I found at a Goodwill was bagged house door hinges and doorknobs. 3 hinges and a doorknob in a bag for $4.99. So now I have hinges for the lid. No, I am not going to use the doorknob.  ;D
 I had bought a pair of hinges that are more like gate hinges, but I think these will be better for what I am doing. Stronger as well. I also bought a cheap used clock radio. I have been using my wife's alarm clock in the car, but she wanted it back. Go figure.  ::)

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #202 on: August 17, 2014, 03:04:33 AM »
You and your friends had some pretty cool cars in high school.  I'm a couple years older than you and I got my '74 Pinto new in my Junior year.  I dated a girl at the time who had a metallic blue '68 Mustang convertible.  I was a Senior during the 1974-75 school year and probably the coolest car of all in the student parking lot was my buddy's black '55 Bel Air.  Believe it or not, there was another kid who drove a black '48 Packard!  That was different!  The guy I ran around with the most in school drove a '74 Mustang II Ghia which was a pretty neat car too, although basically not that different from my Pinto.  They had the same engines but his car was automatic and mine was a 4 speed and could actually outrun his any day - a fact that we proved more than a few times, much to his dismay. 
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #203 on: August 17, 2014, 03:15:02 AM »
Yeah. Although the REALLY cool car was an early black Camaro owned by a guy whose last name was Logan. All anyone had to say was "Logan's Camaro" and everyone smiled.

I don't remember anyone driving anything new. My 69 was one of the newer cars in the student parking lot. But I don't remember anyone driving a 48 anything either. One guy I knew slightly from PE class did drive a 50's some year or other Studebaker truck. Most kids though had mid 60's stuff.

I traded my 69 Stang for a 69 Torino Cobra Jet that spring. Neither car was running. Now THAT car would be worth a ton of money these days. But I still miss the Mustang the most. Well, that and the 70 GT0 I bought on payments from the one friend who had the 64.5 in school after I got out of the Navy and he was going thru a divorce.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #204 on: August 17, 2014, 11:46:39 AM »
Well, actually, the new Pinto wasn't exactly my first choice.  I started working (lawn mowing, leaf raking, painting... whatever) and saving for my first car when I was about ten.  By the time I was sixteen, I had amassed a small fortune; nearly $1200. Laugh if you will,  but that was goodly amount of money for a teenager in those days!  I got my driver's license in June of 1973 and set out to buy myself a car.  A family friend was selling his 1964 Chrysler 300 which I could easily afford with money left over. Beautiful baby blue color, push button transmission, and a sort of rectangular steering wheel!  What a ride!  Unfortunately, my dad got involved and decreed that he wasn't going to allow me to buy somebody else's trouble... I could have my own car when I could afford a brand new one!  Because I couldn't legally buy a car without his signature, he had me over a barrel.  By that time, I was employed both as a school bus driver for the county school system (I still shudder to think about them allowing us students to drive buses full of children) and as a sales associate in the toy department of J.C. Penney.  With my healthy down payment and my dad as a co-signer, I took on a 36 month car loan with a payment of $72 per month to buy a car that met his criteria; my '74 Pinto Runabout.  Actually, I started out ordering a '73 model but it was accidentally destroyed in transit and had to be re-ordered so I ended up with a 1974 instead.  As for my friend with the new Mustang II Ghia: he just had rich parents.  I was never so lucky! 


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #205 on: August 18, 2014, 07:08:08 PM »
I barely had enough money to buy my 69. Paid $400 for it on superbowl sunday 1976. We had to drive to Tucson to buy it. The kid who owned it got the join the military or go to jail speech, he went into the Marines I think. His dad sold the car.

I have to keep reminding myself I wanted to move back here. I've been trying to wire wheel the box frame so I can paint it. It's been about 5 minutes wheeling to about 20 of sitting in the house.
I was going to try to do some welding on this frame, but I think it is galvanized so I am not going to. I know better than that. Even being outside I don't want to mess with it. I already have COPD, Asthma, and other lung issues.

Well, guess it is time to get back out. getting close to being done. But I need to add another piece or two yet, so there will be more wire wheeling before paint. I should have it done today though.

I need a different drill. This is a cheapo I bought a few years ago, but only took it out of the box recently. It's too small and doesn't have a handle for using a second hand. When I do try to use both hands, I cannot avoid covering some of the vents. Oh, well. I had to toss my good drill before we moved, it finally died after about 10 years.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #206 on: August 18, 2014, 10:34:35 PM »
Sigh.
I really really should know better.

The drill I was just talking about is now kaput. A drill bit came loose and went off center in the chuck, and I cannot get it out. I just have no luck at all when it comes to these keyless chucks. That is what caused me to toss my "good" drill back in Ohio. That one, the chuck quit working all together.

The worst part is I was on the last hole I needed to drill before I was done with the box frame.

I really don't have and don't want to spend the money to buy another drill right now. If I do it won't be a cheap one. I don't think this one was really meant to drill anything much more than wood, no matter what it said on the box.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #207 on: August 18, 2014, 10:41:05 PM »
Nothing wrong with the drill, just buy a good "Jacobs" chuck for it and $hit can the china junk chuck and you're in business..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #208 on: August 18, 2014, 10:45:40 PM »
I don't think this one is worth it, but I will check into it.
This one is just a B&D 5.3(8?) amp little dinky thing.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #209 on: August 18, 2014, 10:51:18 PM »
I still have a B&D I bought back in the 80's and it's still going strong, I did replace the cord a couple times though, LOL..
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