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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #90 on: July 18, 2014, 01:59:31 PM »
All I know is that it is hot here.  ;D

I am trying to avoid going out to the Pinto until later in the afternoon when it is fully in shade. Although for the most part I am doing most of the work after 8pm, except when I need to make noises like drilling holes. I always have been more of a night person, and when I don't have to be a day type person I always have defaulted back to a night schedule. But right now I would love to be a day person with a job.  :'(

And I screwed up in the last post. I should have called them junction blocks. Brain problems again. Maybe I shouldn't be holding the solder in my mouth to straighten it out while soldering. It has lead. Probably too late anyway for me. I think I fried my brain a long time ago.  ::)

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #91 on: July 18, 2014, 03:01:02 PM »
Hot??, heck it's only in the 90's and most of the humidity is gone, nice day to be outside.. :D :D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #92 on: July 18, 2014, 03:20:30 PM »
You're right. I just checked.  8)
I might have to go out in a bit. I do have a floor fan we bought when the ac was down I have been using out there. I have to turn it off when soldering, though. It is one of the ones that cost about $30 at Walmart, all metal, blows a lot of air. But it is too noisy for in the house as long as the ac is working, according to my wife.  :-X

I need to be shot.  :-[ I just spent another $16 on a couple of junction blocks for the Pinto for the headlights. These aren't fancy like the ones I have already, but they are about half the price. Just the stud and the mounting block. But they will work fine, and by getting two I can save the other "good" one for something else later on.

Oh, I finally got the butt connectors. Only 2 days later than it was supposed to be. Guess I have the post office to thank for that. At least they are here now.  ::)

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #93 on: July 18, 2014, 06:38:33 PM »
Well, thanks to Art I went outside and got something done. ;D

It only took over 2 hours, but I finally got the fuse box where it will work.
I ended up mounting it on the glove box door after all. And remounted, and remounted, etc. 
I figured since Ford used sheet metal screws to attach lots of stuff, why can't I? :o

I also got the flasher where I want it, but the mount is only temporary 'til I get
something else. Need to look around to see what is available. I know what I would
like, but I will have to see if they come in a size big enough for that.

Gee, I almost forgot. I found an envelope from an insurance company with a previous owner's name and address on it.
I think the last name is Hendershot, but everything after the s is iffy. At one point this was a California car. According to the late payment notices inside it, he also owned a 78 Ford, but it didn't say which model.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #94 on: July 18, 2014, 07:24:51 PM »
Russ, what you need to do is find an old swamp cooler and make a cart with casters so you can place it anywhere you work they really work good, that's what I'm doing for my general work area only my room that my machines are in is insulated and have A/C..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #95 on: July 18, 2014, 07:42:00 PM »
Thanks.
If I had the room that would work. It's a good thing I got a Pinto, something like a large '60's Pontiac wouldn't have fit here. I can't even open the passenger side door all the way. This place wasn't setup to work on cars. What I would really like would be a roof, even something like a patio cover. But that isn't happening. Sometimes being a renter isn't so hot. Then again, when the AC breaks it is nice to just call the landlord.  ;D
It wasn't bad with the fan blowing on me. It was actually close to being comfortable. My body started aching too much to stay out there much longer.  :(
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #96 on: July 19, 2014, 08:16:33 AM »
Yeah renting sucks, happiest time was when I moved in to my own place, although my first place had a tiny garage not intended to work in but it was mine, had to put up the swap meet canopy all the time in the summer, that did get old after a while though, LOL.. ;D Swamper did help even if it was outside..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #97 on: July 19, 2014, 10:14:06 PM »
I got the wiring diagram today.
Found out a couple of interesting things with it.
The single stranded wire I couldn't solder is a 15 ohm resistor wire for the alternator warning light. And after I worked at getting it connected the other night it is the one I have to cut for the internal regulator alternator anyway or else the warning light won't work right.

The reason the fuse box has two power feeds is that two circuits are on all the time regardless of key position, and the rest are only on when the key is in the ACC or ON positions. So now I need two fuse panels to keep that function. Or I could just wire inline fuse holders for the two always on circuits. I have a fuse holder that I could use, it just isn't what I want to use. See picture below.
I'll have to think about this one. I haven't been able to find just a two fuse block, seems the smallest is four, and I don't want something that big. The glove box door isn't that big.
We'll see what I can come up with.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #98 on: July 20, 2014, 03:57:32 AM »
Well, it was an interesting evening.  ::)

I went out to work some more on the Pinto even though I thought I was really at a standstill until I get a job and could afford to buy some stuff. Ran a couple of wires but wasn't really into it. I spent a lot of time at the kitchen table trying to figure out how I could get around the fuse box issue. I even tried thinking of how I could use relays for the stuff that is keyed on. But my brain just didn't seem to want to think that hard.

So I decided to finally strip the wiring from that Toyota fuse box I had bought so it wouldn't be a complete waste of money. I even took that box apart in hopes of maybe being able to use just part of it. I did end up with possibly enough wire to finish wiring the stuff I cut. And most of the fuses I will need. ;D

All the while I've had an idea at the back of my brain telling me to use the new fuse box, but make it a dual like the original Pinto. So figuring I had nothing really left to lose I went ahead and opened it up, thinking I would have to really butcher it up to get it to work that way. But I was surprised. It came apart easily (after messing with the Toyota one anyway, that thing was built to never come back apart after assembly) and all I had to do was to cut out a small section of the power buss bar and cut a bit of the top housing for access to another bolt. Got that all done, but I don't have the stupid 10X.75 or so hex headed (this is key) machine screw. All I have are slotted screws which will just spin when you try to tighten a nut down on them in this fuse box. It has a cutout for a hex head so that doesn't happen.
So off I go later today to Home Depot to buy ONE screw and ONE nut. Bet they will just be so happy with me.  ;D I have a whole $2 or so in cash/change I can spend.  ::)

Now, that all said, there is still an issue with the fuses. Two of the fuses are not connected to either power source at the fuse box. One of them (Fuse number 5 on the diagram) is for the instrument panel lights and it is just an inline fuse even though it was mounted in the original fuse box. The other (fuse number 6)is similar, but goes to more stuff. I don't remember what all stuff it is though right now.
So I still need to come up with something for those two. I couldn't modify the new fuse box to do that, it isn't set up so that can be done. :(
The Toyota box had an attachment for 4 fuses that would have been perfect, but it only had one fuse in it and didn't have the terminals in the other spots, just empty. I did try fitting the ones from that Dorman add on one, but no luck.
So I don't know what I will do about these two, the simplest way would be to just buy a couple of inline fuse holders. But doing all this other work on the wiring makes me feel like that is the wrong way to go. Who knows at this point? :-\

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #99 on: July 20, 2014, 04:51:50 AM »
Don't worry, 2.3 is as simple as they come, you will learn to love it. Wish you were closer I have a good automatic from a 76 pinto I'd give you. I don't know how many pintos are around where you guys live but, even though yours may have problems, at $500 it's hard to go wrong, you just can't find them in Mississippi where we are. I drove to New Mexico to get ours and pulled it back with a tow bar! No motor and interior that was totally fried! I covered my dash with stretch vinyl, take the pad off fill cracks with body filler, cover with head liner material and then cover with stretch vinyl. Used 3m adhesive, got everything to do it at a local upholstery supply shop for less than $40. Pull that 2.3 and slide a 289-302 in and be done!
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #100 on: July 20, 2014, 01:38:37 PM »
Thanks.

I was planning on a V8, but I don't know anymore. It's kind of nice having lots of room to work in the engine compartment.  ;D It will all depend on if this engine is even good I suppose.

I still want to just get this on the road as soon as I can, and then work on it as I drive it. It's hard though. I am constantly having to stop myself from the "let's take this off while we are at it" desire. I really don't want to end up with a shell and a thousand parts again. Especially since I don't have the money, it feels like making progress if I take things apart, but that is a false feeling.

I'm doing the electrical now because I had the stuff already and the car isn't going anywhere soon.

If I could get a hoist I would pull the engine and redo the engine compartment. The engine isn't bolted in at all, just sitting there on one mount. So I don't consider that taking things apart. :-)

But once I get the electrical done, the next thing will be removing all that's left of the carpet. I would do that now, but I'd rather sit on the carpet than the bare floor. Then I need to finish up modifying the fold down seat metal so it clears the battery box. I just need some spacers (steel tubing) and I have to figure out just how much I need to raise it. Probably an inch, maybe an inch and a half. Haven't looked that close at it yet. I am having to store parts in the cargo area so I can't get to it right now. Going to wait until I can buy the spacer stuff before clearing it out to work on it. Then I need to enclose that area. Already have that figured out as well, just a money issue again. Build a frame out of tubing, then use sheet metal. Then when I carpet the interior I will carpet that. The fold down will be the lid. That will also give me a hidden storage area behind the driver's seat.  ;D

I don't want to start re-doing the interior yet since this is Phoenix and I don't know how long it will have to sit in the sun until it is closer to being ready to be driven. I'd hate to have a new interior get ruined before I even drove it. I recovered my GTO dash in the 80's with a roll of cheap carpet that you get at like PepBoys and a bottle of Elmer's Glue. I didn't take the pad off either.  I got compliments on it often and it lasted for quite a while, was still good when I sold the car. But the Pinto one is a lot smaller and easier to remove so I doubt if I will do that. But you never know.  ;D I am debating whether I want to do a replacement headliner, or make a custom one. Thinking about a piece of masonite or similar with either that carpet from above glued on, or use the headliner you can buy that is for newer cars.
That is another one of the long term things I have a while to decide on. I have always liked the idea of an overhead console, and it would be easier to do if I do the custom headliner. But this is all stuff I can do after the car is running.  ;D Plus I still have no idea about colors.  I am not a fan of the green that this was. But to do a color change is a lot of work. And money. I can't spray the car myself.

I am really just sort of playing with it right now in a sense. Once I get a decent job (if ever  :( ) then after we get caught up on other things I can really get serious with this. Then things like finding a manual trans, going junk yarding, doing the interior, stuff that takes money. I just have to be patient. Which is NOT one of my virtues.  ;D

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #101 on: July 20, 2014, 07:31:29 PM »
Well, Home Depot let me down, but I tried a newly opened True Value and they had what I needed. I spent a whole $0.91 on two screws and nuts, just in case I lost one. Bet I made that cashier's day.

But now the fuse box is better than new, in my opinion.  ;D

I'll just have a bunch of empty spots to use up later on. There are six on the always on side and six on the keyed on side. I will be separating the radio circuit from the others, that way if something else blows a fuse I will still have the radio to listen to.  ;D

I'm probably just going to go with inline fuse holders for those other two fuses. Cheap and easy wins out I guess. But I will locate them next to this box so they are all easy to get to.

Darn it. I just realized I should have gotten four sheet metal screws to mount this box. I have plenty, but they are all cruddy looking. Oh, well. Something to buy later on I suppose.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #102 on: July 21, 2014, 11:26:53 AM »
I made a headliner using a backboard from a 2000s mercury mystique ( ford Taurus) trimmed it down and worked great in my 76. (Coupe)
I covered my dash pad with that new stretch vinyl after bondo was used to fill cracks and then wrapped in headliner material. 
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #103 on: July 22, 2014, 02:54:16 AM »
Another night, another got more stuff done report.

No pictures, I had to stop early. I have to be up at 8AM to take someone to the doctor. That is way early for me.

I bought a couple of inline fuse holders at Autozone, got those wired in and I think I got all the wires run from the new fuse box. I didn't get the other ends soldered though, just crimped. Will get the soldering done probably tomorrow night.  And I haven't connected them at the new fuse box yet. But I did write down the colors I used and what they got connected to at the other end, since I didn't have factory colors to use. I didn't re-do the radio power wire yet either. I need to figure out how a previous owner attached the gauge holder, that stupid thing is in the way of a lot of stuff I need to do. I might just take a hammer to it. I don't feel like crawling around and trying to find his attaching stuff. I need to get the radio out so I can undo all of his custom wiring for it and add my own custom wiring.  ;D Aftermarket 70's radio. Craig am/fm/8track.

And I lost one wire. Driving me nuts. I know it was there, I cut the stupid thing at the old fuse box. I'll have to look for it again tomorrow.

And I caught one mistake. I had put a green with yellow stripe wire with a green with white stripe. OOPS.  :-[
This is why I am going to be testing it all out before wrapping it up and tucking it into it's final resting place.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #104 on: July 22, 2014, 04:31:02 AM »
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I have to be up at 8AM to take someone to the doctor. That is way early for me.

Day is half over ! LOL !

I'm up at 3 AM or before , each morning, even on days off !

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #105 on: July 22, 2014, 07:23:06 AM »
Day is half over ! LOL !

I'm up at 3 AM or before , each morning, even on days off !
Wife get's up at 3:45 AM to go to work and I get up then too, on her days off we sleep in till 4 AM, LOL.. ;D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #106 on: July 22, 2014, 08:45:25 AM »
I've always been a night owl so third shift was the logical decision for me when it came to work.  Have been at it for 34 years now with no regrets.  That makes 3:00 a.m. lunch time for me! 


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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #107 on: July 23, 2014, 12:10:21 AM »
No update today, just flat didn't feel like working on it.

The rest of this is probably something you won't want to read. I just needed to vent. A LOT >:(

Anyone want a very used Pinto?
Ok, probably not.
How about
anyone want a very used old man who can't find a job and is feeling totally depressed, useless, and unemployable(apparently)? Yes, I am only 54(for two more weeks) but I feel like I am 93. Worthless and would be better off dead.
No comments necessary, not looking for sympathy. Just a bullet to the head.
Why, yes. I am not having one of my better days.

Guess I should add more. The job situation sucks and is just getting worse for me.

If you are involved in hiring people in whatever sense, like a temp agency recruiter, if a company doesn't want somebody(me in this case) just tell that person the truth. Don't say that the hiring company has decided to postpone the job, only to still have it listed on your companies jobs available. Really, it is much better as the person involved to be told the truth instead of getting an automated email later on from your company with that job still active. I will call you on it.

Especially if you interview me, at least have the decency to let me know either way, as you stated you would.

I know a lot of it is ageism. You know, I know it. But being able to prove it in a court of law is something else, so don't be so damned afraid of letting me know I am not wanted.

I could go on. and on, and on, and on.
What is up with HR types today? Absolutely classless.

If you tell me I am not wanted, fine. If not, every single time I see an ad that I qualify for with your company I am going to apply. And apply, and apply. Funny thing is I bet you don't even get it.

Ok, back to our regular Pinto program.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #108 on: July 23, 2014, 03:55:28 AM »
Russ,
 
Do you live near any hospitals?  Hospitals generally have a tendency to appreciate and reward the life experience of older applicants.  I work for a hospital listed nationally in the top 100.  The last four new hires in my department included a man about a year younger than you, a man your age, and two men who are older than you by 5 - 7 years.  Just a thought.
 
Working in the Engineering Department of a hospital was not something that I was really seeking back when I started, but I have to say it's been very good to me.  Will mark my 34th anniversary here in late September. 
 
As for the points you made concerning HR practices, it's a shame that can't be sent out as an open letter to all Human Resources Directors... perhaps it would inspire them to be a bit more "human" in their dealings with others.
 
Hang in there, friend!
 
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #109 on: July 23, 2014, 07:57:59 AM »
It's the same ole crap, it's not what you know it's "who" you know, wife tried to get a job here at the Casino for a year checking with them once a week nothing, she finally met someone that worked there and she told her to put her name on her resume, so she did and two days later she was hired. I tried to get in McDonnell Douglas for five years and couldn't even get an interview, I met a driver on the road one day and we hung out for a while told him I been trying for five years to get in, he said nobody gets in without a name no matter how good of record or experience you have, I told him my history and he let me use his name, less than three weeks later I was driving for them, unfortunately after eight years it all went down the toilet. Then it all started again, almost 30yrs experience and clean as clean can be driving record and can't get a job, only places I could find a job is at places with revolving doors, if you lasted 6 months you were a senior driver, after 5 yrs of that crap I just had enough and packed it in..  >:(
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #110 on: July 23, 2014, 01:27:36 PM »
Thanks.
I shouldn't have posted that I suppose. I just really needed to vent some.

Hospitals, yep. Been looking for BioMed tech, problem is no experience at all in that field. I don't qualify for pretty much anything else they have. Maybe janitor, I used to do that quite a bit. But at this age and the shape I am in I don't know if I could do it as a full time job. Not to mention the pay. That is the big issue. At $10 an hour, which is what my unemployment is, we are using every cent of my mil's retirement, plus food stamps. And barely eeking by. And they only take out 10% federal tax, nothing else. I really need to be making at least $16/hr just to pay all the bills with some help from mil.

I keep thinking I am going to have to change careers. At 55. I can't afford to change careers, if I could even find an employer willing to train someone as old as I am. If I can't find a job at this age in a field where I am fully experienced, I don't have any hope of starting over.

Gee, now I am getting depressed again. Maybe I should go read the jobs on Craigslist, seeing hundreds of jobs that I can't do makes me so happy. Not.

Russ
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #111 on: July 23, 2014, 09:24:53 PM »
Well, that was a waste of money. I had mentioned earlier that I couldn't think of a way to splice the headlight wires after the relays, so I ordered a couple of junction blocks/insulated power terminals, depending on who the supplier is. So I got them in the mail today and went out to install them. Got them installed, and realized that the stud was way bigger than I had thought. So I start looking around for a connector to fit it. Then it hit me. I don't need the blocks, just use the connectors I found, place the 3 low beam wires in one, the 3 high beam wires in the other other one, crimp, solder, and cut off the part that goes on the stud. Simple. Wish I had thought of that before, would have saved over $15. I will probably find a use for these things down the road, but I'd rather have the money right now. That would be a meal for me and my wife at Whataburger. My favorite all time hamburger. And they don't have them back east, at least nowhere near Ohio.

Hopefully tomorrow I will get the ceramic headlight connectors I ordered, then I can finish up that part of the electrical.
Still need to get in the car and do a bunch of soldering to finish  up the dash harness stuff. Don't know if I will go back out tonight or not.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #112 on: July 24, 2014, 12:12:49 AM »


I shouldn't have posted that I suppose. I just really needed to vent some.


Hospitals, yep. Been looking for BioMed tech, problem is no experience at all in that field. I don't qualify for pretty much anything else they have.

There's nothing wrong with venting a little every once in a while, especially among friends. 

I suppose hospitals all vary in size, variety of services, etc., but the one where I work has electronics techs that are completely separate from the BioMed people.  They work on the nurse call systems, televisions, automatic doors, pneumatic tube system, security cameras/monitors, etc.  They work out of our Maintenance & Engineering Department.  The BioMed staff (who works on cardiac monitors, IV pumps, defibrillators, Radiology equipment, etc.) have a department all their own under the heading of Clinical Engineering.  They are more highly specialized and better paid I'm sure, but our run-of-the-mill electronics techs earn in the $20-30 per hour range. 

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #113 on: July 24, 2014, 12:29:43 AM »
Thanks, Dwayne, I'll look into that. I know nothing about a lot of that stuff you posted. Have to see if I can come close to qualifying for such a position here.

I am an idiot. I had posted quite a while ago about the key that wouldn't come out-the ignition key. Well, thinking if I have to take the column apart to work on it I might as well remove it I was looking in the manual to make sure I knew what I was doing when I read this little tidbit about there being a locking mechanism on the column so you can't lock the steering wheel by accident. Seems I forgot all about this little button. Sure enough, when I pushed the button the key turned and came right out. Just glad I found this out before removing the column.

Now I guess it is back to catching up on old posts. Reading the General Help section. It's depressing though reading my old posts from the other Pinto days and all the stuff I had for that car.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #114 on: July 24, 2014, 01:09:51 AM »
 
That little button has confounded a lot of Pinto owners!  lol
 
When I bought my '72 sedan back in 2008, I struggled with the same thing before I suddenly remembered "the button".  After all, it had been 28 years since I had driven a Pinto and about 32 years since I had owned one!  Once you become accustomed to it, you tend to bump the button with the knucke of your middle finger while turning the key with your thumb and forefinger in such a fluid motion that you forget the button is even there!
 
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #115 on: July 24, 2014, 01:43:41 AM »
Yep.
When I was driving the 79, I just got into the habit of pressing the button. Guess it has been too long.  :-[

Speaking of the 79, I just read my first post here. 6 years ago this month. I had forgotten exactly when I had bought it.
Poor car, I wonder how it ended up after it left me and my destructive ways?   :(

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #116 on: July 25, 2014, 04:35:16 AM »
Well, for the most part the electrical that I can do now is done. I just need to test it.
I got all the under dash stuff back together. Fuses in the fuse box and it is all connected.
Ceramic connectors on the headlights.
Oh, the engine harness and under dash harness connection is just temporary, as are the tie wraps on the harness. After I get them tested I will make it all nice, neat, and more or less permanent. ;D

Took out the Craig AM/FM/8track player. Finally got the aftermarket gauge housing removed, and guess what I found? The control knob for the passenger side mirror. I didn't know I had full sport mirrors. So I can scratch that off the wanted list.  ;D 8)

I have to reconnect the steering column wiring connectors and the ignition switch wiring connectors. I took those apart trying to track down a wire. The ignition switch wiring connector is really corroded. Going to have to clean that before I put it back together. The steering column connector is giving me fits, maybe I am just too weak.  :-\

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #117 on: July 25, 2014, 07:35:49 AM »
Looks like you're progressing pretty good..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #118 on: July 25, 2014, 01:31:25 PM »
Thanks. 8)

Not sure where to go next. I suppose just removing the carpet and general cleaning. Got a couple more wires to run from the battery box solenoid for the starter, including the main cable.  :-\

I found a heater blower motor squirrel cage in the back. Now I am worried about that. Why is it there? Hopefully it is just a spare. I also found that the temp control cable is not attached to the switch. Need to track that down. There is also a wire running to the heater blower motor from the engine compartment. Something else to track down and correct. I have been trying to avoid it but it looks like I should remove the heater box, it will be the best way to make sure that everything there is right. :(   Yes, we do sometimes need a heater even in Phoenix.  ;D

I suppose I should inventory all the parts that came in the cargo area. I need to empty it out anyway. Maybe I can find room in the enclosed carport for the seats.

Once I make up my mind on what to do next it will be easier on me. Then I can focus on that, like I did with the wiring. There is just so much that needs done it's hard to decide what I want to do. The wiring was fun. Right now fun is important.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #119 on: July 26, 2014, 01:04:14 AM »
Well, this is what happens when I am not really clear about what I want to do. :-\

I'm calling it an early night, I left the car a mess, need to go back to it with a fresh mind tomorrow.

I got the heater box out. Probably should have waited, don't have the money for a new heater core right now. Don't know if it really needs one, but I'd just as soon replace it now.

I did find that the blower motor has been replaced. That was why the wiring for it in the engine compartment was funky.
I took the motor out and no signs of critters, or even anything except dirt. This car is covered in dirt, but since it sat for who knows how long here in the desert that isn't surprising.

The box came out easy enough. The real pain was the defroster vent. It was just sitting loose in the dash, so I thought "Let's get it out of the way, how hard can it be?". After trying for quite a while to maneuver it, I finally had to take the dash support off from the trans tunnel. I can't wait to try to get it back in place.

I took the yellow box out that seems to be 74 specific. It just has a connector and a small circuit board that has one IC and a whole bunch of resistors and capacitors, plus a few other things. I am going to try real hard to eliminate it from the car, 40 year old electronics like that don't fill me with confidence. I might have to get into the wiring harness again.

And a strange thing. I had noticed a while back my driver's fresh air vent duct was shot. Came apart at the ribs. But looking at the passenger side tonight, it seems really solid. Makes no sense to me. ???

I'm going to need a new heater control eventually. This one is really bent up along the face plate. And I found the reason why the temp control cable wasn't on the lever. Seems there is a metal bracket that holds the two cable housings motionless and also attaches to the control near where the cables attach to the levers. Mine is broken at the temp control side. A previous owner tried to fix it with baling wire, but that won't hold it enough. I imagine I can make one out of sheet metal, the hard part for me will be to get the ends curled over to hold the cables.
Page 36-14-2 figure 2 of the 1974 Manual (I can't seem to copy that page) shows this being two separate pieces, one for each cable. But mine is one piece, or was until it broke. ??? Not the first time I have found a difference between the manual and my car. The control that is in that figure doesn't look like mine, either.  ???

I think tomorrow I need to concentrate a bit more on general cleaning and putting parts back where I got them from before I forget where that was. I try to keep hardware in baggies with a 3x5 card stating what they are for, but we are a bit low on baggies right now. :-[

Thanks,
Russ
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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.