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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2014, 05:21:19 PM »
I managed to get the front seats out. It was actually easy. It is really nice working on a car that doesn't have everything rusted. Didn't even have to use a breaker bar. Just a regular socket. Putting the seats in the cargo area was the hardest part.

Got a really good look underneath. Looks really clean and solid. Yay!

Bad news is that was all I could stand to do right now. Got to work up slowly to working out in the heat again. Would help if we had ac that was working, but that won't be til Monday. Thank God for sugar-free popsicles.  ;D

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2014, 07:47:38 PM »
I just realized that I need to go back to Summit Racing's site. I looked last night, but had thought the car had the 2.0. Have to see what all they have for a 2.3 now. Might as well fill up my wish list there.
This is something I will really miss. Summit Racing was easily within driving distance for me while I lived in Ohio.  Talking 20 minutes or so. That and the Pinto meet coming up along the Lake Erie coast this summer.  :(
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There is a way to fix that.... Come back to the Scarlet & Gray side lol. Ohio born & raised & won't leave, no matter how much I complain about the inconsistent weather & rust buckets around here.  ;D
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2014, 11:20:07 PM »
Well, I am Ohio born, raised there til I was 10 . Then we moved here to Phoenix. Always wanted to go back, did finally, and it just didn't work out. Tried for 8 years.  :(
My wife hated coming back here, can't say I blame her.
Of course now I can't get a job here, either. Maybe it IS me.  :-\
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2014, 10:56:57 AM »
Well, I am Ohio born, raised there til I was 10 . Then we moved here to Phoenix. Always wanted to go back, did finally, and it just didn't work out. Tried for 8 years.  :(
My wife hated coming back here, can't say I blame her.
Of course now I can't get a job here, either. Maybe it IS me.  :-\
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Not you, as the feds promote the fact that unemployment dropped to 6.1, they never mention the number of people that fell off the rolls and gave up looking for work. Just keep plugging away until you find something. Use Craigslist, the department of employment and so on. That's what you'll need to do is all. Just keep trying and don't give up. There are also apprenticeship programs if you need to be retrained in some other field. I don't know about Ohio, but Montana and Kentucky actually have programs around that will allow that.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2014, 11:28:04 AM »
All you have to do is get to know someone and you're in..
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2014, 12:47:36 PM »
NETWORKING is what you need to do. That's the only way to get a job any more. Get someone to work on your resume to show what key words you should have on it, so the computer at job XYZ will pick it out and send it to a real person to look at. The days of the boss looking at all the resume's is long gone.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #36 on: July 05, 2014, 05:35:57 PM »
NETWORKING is what you need to do. That's the only way to get a job any more. Get someone to work on your resume to show what key words you should have on it, so the computer at job XYZ will pick it out and send it to a real person to look at. The days of the boss looking at all the resume's is long gone.

I actually review them all Dick and then I review everyone that looks like it has the right qualification. We're still a small and growing company though. He should send a resume and follow-up with a call. That's gets the most attention from me depending on the position :)
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2014, 11:12:46 PM »
NETWORKING is what you need to do. That's the only way to get a job any more. Get someone to work on your resume to show what key words you should have on it, so the computer at job XYZ will pick it out and send it to a real person to look at. The days of the boss looking at all the resume's is long gone.

My brother redid my resume. He is President/CEO of a fairly small startup company and he deals with tons of resumes. Got it down from 3 pages to 1 and a half. Been having better results since then, but I blew a couple three interviews. So he has coached me on my more problem areas. I am not a people person per se. And definitely not a sales type. And that is the problem, you have to be a salesman at the interview. So I am learning to be "creative" about certain questions that are always asked. Give the expected answer, and not what I really feel. Bleah >:( :( :-[

I used to be able to just count on my technical skills to get me the job, that isn't working anymore.

The other issue is I think I am just too "experienced". 20 years as a tech, and I didn't start until I was about 34ish. Although that last part isn't on the resume.  ;D I am not THAT stupid. I have always been a production type tech, which means fixing bad boards from assembly mostly. Most people with my years of experience have more engineering type backgrounds, so for more experienced jobs I am competing with techs more knowledgable in designing things. And at the other end of the spectrum I am competing with much lower experienced people, and hiring types think I want too much money for those jobs, although I don't, and if I did get the job I would be looking to leave asap, which again I don't want to do. At my age I just want to find a place that I can be productive at, make a livable wage, and hopefully stay at until retirement, which at the rate I am saving will be a lot past 65.

Hell, I would just start over as far as a career goes, but there I can't afford to live on like $9-12 an hour, and most places won't even consider someone older anyway.

Something had better come up soon, I am going nuts.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2014, 11:24:13 PM »
I actually review them all Dick and then I review everyone that looks like it has the right qualification. We're still a small and growing company though. He should send a resume and follow-up with a call. That's gets the most attention from me depending on the position :)

Dianne,
The main thing I am dealing with is almost all of the companies here are using temp agencies. A lot of companies won't even hire you on direct later, all they want are temps. So I have to deal with temp agencies. Don't get a name for the company until I get an interview.
Even then, finding the person to call at the agency isn't easy. Most agencies don't even list the recruiter's name in the ad. Or pay or anything else other than the basic job description. And it must be working, they are just about all doing things that way. And they don't even reply to me at all if I had an interview but don't get the job. Or even if they tell me they are submitting my resume for review, I never get a reply unless the hiring company wants to interview me. Seems these people just can't be bothered with what we used to consider common decency.

Could I possibly do some calling and digging and find out more? Maybe, but that just isn't me. Like I said in the other reply, I have always been able to rely on my technical skills to get the job in the past. So maybe I am just a relic from the past now myself. I remember my dad always telling me years ago to " go door to door asking for a job". Guess my job hunting skills are as dated now as his were then.  :(

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2014, 11:30:04 PM »
All you have to do is get to know someone and you're in..

Not always the case. I had an interview just over a week ago with a company where a former supervisor of mine works as a Product Manager. We always seemed to work well together, he tended to be the type to always come up and ask about meeting deadlines, but with me he stopped doing that because I had shown him that I could be relied on to do what I said I would do without having to be harassed about it, and do it right. Well, I didn't get that job either. He didn't even know they were interviewing me, and when he found out he said that they didn't get him involved in hiring but wished me good luck. He was on vacation the whole time anyway. I had mentioned knowing him and how, and the hr person couldn't even take the time to email or call him to see if I was a good candidate.

Seems like unless your network connection owns/runs the company it doesn't matter anymore.

Oh, well. At least I gave the "proper/standard" answers this time. So it was a good practice session anyway.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2014, 11:38:17 PM »
Back to Pinto stuff.
I am looking for stuff I can do right now for no money. Not really wanting to just tear the car apart either. I asked a few questions along this line in the General Help section. Pushing the bumpers in, removing the cowl to clean up surface rust under it (if it isn't welded that is).
I have everything but the actual wire to work on the wiring (soldering iron, solder, relays, etc)(plan is to improve the wiring, not just restore). I would also need a battery though, will have to see if maybe I can find a used on for like $5 at a Goodwill or something, to use to see if lights work, etc. I do have a battery charger, maybe that would work without the battery. Just don't want to kill myself. (well, wait a minute. Accidental electrocution. Hmmm)(oops, no life insurance, scratch that)

Looking for any other ideas as well. Since I can't really spend any money on this, stuff like body work is probably out of the question right now.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2014, 02:32:09 AM »
I came up with an idea of how to mount the battery using the trunk mounted battery kit I have. You may not want to know what I have thought of though. It would not be open to the interior of the car, or visible either, however. Not after I am done that is.  ;D (there needs to be a devil emoticon)
I have to do some investigating to see if the place I have in mind will be large enough.
Remember, this is going to be more of a restomod than a straight resto.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2014, 06:41:15 AM »
OK, I don't get why all the temp agencies unless the companies are trying to keep under 50 employees so they don't have to do the Obamacare stuff. But keep plugging and check Craigslist and the papers. If the state has an online employee service, use that also. In Idaho, they have all kinds of resources for employees, call and see if they have any of those :)

Well good luck and back to the Pinto!
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2014, 01:05:26 PM »
AZ does have an online resource. Problem is that all the jobs they have already show up from my search.
I guess the days are long gone where the state unemployment office had exclusive jobs.

As far as the Obama care stuff, most of the companies I have applied to are pretty large national companies. Just better for the stock holders not to have to lay off people. Getting rid of temp employees doesn't count as far as a reduction goes, so no hit to stock prices.  :(
Not too many small local only companies in this field.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2014, 01:23:58 PM »
I just use temp agencies when I'm behind here for assembly work, otherwise I steer clear. It's actually pretty expensive on the markups on temp workers. Believe it or not, I do do insurance for my employees.

I hope you find a job though :)
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2014, 01:54:11 PM »
russ I have been a truck driver since 1975 and found it real hard to find a good job that paid anything.most companies wanted to pay a wage that I was making at 1980 or so.i worked a temp agency for a year and then retired at age 63.if your close to sixty or so nobody wants you cause your too close to retirement age.i found I can retire and not work and make more that trying to work all week.that said good luck on your job search.  chris
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2014, 03:08:50 PM »
Thanks. I wish I could retire, but I have absolutely zero in savings. Used up my meager 401k last fall to pay bills when I got laid off.
Most people think I am in my forties when they see me, so I am hoping I can avoid dating myself at an interview. But I know I have been a victim of ageism in the last few months. Problem is when there are thousands of people applying for a job, it is impossible to prove.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2014, 03:12:54 PM »
Back to the Pinto.
I did some investigating and found out that the location I had wanted to put the battery in won't work without major mods. I am still considering it, but I haven't had the chance yet to do the serious checking out to see if it is even feasible.
Way too hot out right now to be crawling in and under a car. Which is too bad, I have some other stuff that I would like to get going on.
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well, that was fun. If you like S&M
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2014, 08:57:34 PM »
Went out to put a couple of quality hours into the Pinto. I got the front bumper off pretty easily, in prep for doing the bumper move in.

So I decided to see how my radiator fits. Short of major surgery on structural stuff, it doesn't. And even if somehow I managed to make it fit, the electric fan won't. I ended up taking all the hood latch stuff off, and the panel that runs across the bottom of the grille area too. Waste of time, for now anyway. Just have to put it back on tomorrow so I don't lose anything.

Now I will have to find a radiator that will fit and be an improvement. Someday, that is, when I have money to spend. Really was hoping I could do at least this with stuff I already have.  :(

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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2014, 01:03:11 AM »
here's a couple pictures. I didn't even think to take any of the fan, I was(and still am) really bummed about this situation. If the new radiator was only an inch and a half narrower, it might have been able to fit. But the fan never would have, it is thicker than the radiator.
The last one is of one of our girls, Molly. Just happened to catch the corner of the Pinto.

edit, that last one reminds me. When I took off that side's headlight bezel(had to, to remove the rubber thingie on that side only, maybe a result of the accident damage?)I noticed that it is split on one corner. But there is a good one that was in the trunk.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #50 on: July 08, 2014, 08:07:37 AM »
Lookin' good Russ!!!
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2014, 08:08:08 AM »
I got this one from the Zone, it's an AC unit  bolted right in no mods needed..

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2014, 03:33:45 PM »
I'm not a people person either. It's why I drove delivery trucks from age 18 & got my CDL at 23. I've never been out of work & never made less than 44K a year since 1990.
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2014, 04:23:25 PM »
So is the size difference on the radiator whether it has AC or not? The one that came with the car has the plate on one side to fill up the hole. I was wondering if that was the case or if it was since the original engine was a 2.0l.

I'll have to look and see what sort of aluminum radiators are available also. Living here in Phoenix most of my life I've had my share of overheating issues, and eventually this car will be my daily driver. I want the cooling system to be the best it can be. Especially since the car WILL have AC at some point.  ;D

This is one of those where since I am going to have to buy one anyway, I want it to be the best, even if for now it is overkill. I don't want to have to buy another one down the road after doing any upgrades.

I've got to run. Wife wants to go eat and do the grocery shopping. I would rather stay inside and enjoy our new AC. 8)

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Russ
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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2014, 12:40:50 AM »
Well, I spent a whole $20 on the Pinto. First purchase for it.
Some of you may think I am nuts.
I bought a fuse box for it from a 1989 Toyota truck. Pictures below.
I really prefer this type of fuse, and I need to move the fuse box anyway, the stock location is just too hard for me to get to easily.
I am not sure yet about location. Thinking under the dash maybe, but have it on a plate that is hinged and comes down for easy access. I need to look around and see what will work the best for me.

Wiring is easy to me and I enjoy doing it, so I am going to mainly concentrate on doing that stuff for now. Along with the bumper moves. All I might need to buy for the electrical is maybe some solder, if I can't find mine. And possibly a little wire, depending on how good or bad the harnesses are on the Pinto.

Tonight I need to see if I can find the wiring diagram online for an 89 Toyota truck.
No, I don't know the model. That would be too easy.
And I will likely end up cutting off all of the harness attached to the new box except for about 12 inches, depending on where I am going to mount it. But I will check first just in case any of the connectors on it will work on the Pinto. But I am not expecting any of them to.

So tomorrow I look for a new fuse box location, pull the harness off, and clean off my modeling table in the house so I have a place to work on it. I do not enjoy trying to solder wires while under the dash.  ;D

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Russ
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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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74 Pinto Wagon.  To be or Not to be a Pinchero, that is the question.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #55 on: July 09, 2014, 02:16:09 AM »
Well, after much searching, learning more about Toyota trucks than I ever wanted to, wailing, and gnashing of teeth I finally found the diagram online. Only Toyota didn't bother putting the wire colors on it. So I will still have to trace them out manually with my meter. Not a huge deal, just takes time. But the diagram is still very useful to me.

If anyone here happens to have an 89-93ish Toyota truck and wants the link to a free online factory service manual let me know. Supposedly those years(may have been up to 95?) are basically the same. At least according to the Toyota experts.  ;D

Oh, thought I should add this. If anyone is interested in automotive electrical, especially about improving the older cars systems, I highly recommend going to this site and reading the info given in both the catalog and the tech sections. It is very good information.
http://www.madelectrical.com/
I am going to be using a lot of his stuff in redoing the Wagon's electrical. It originally was bought for my Lemans project, but there was no way I was going to give this stuff away.

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Russ
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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.
74 Pinto Wagon.  To be or Not to be a Pinchero, that is the question.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #56 on: July 10, 2014, 01:37:07 AM »
I must be an idiot. Or a masochist. Or both. :-\

Ford hardwired the dash harness to the fuse box.  >:( >:( >:(

So I will end up doing some soldering in the car afterall. I am not going to remove that harness. What I will have to do is to cut it at the stock fuse box, and then I will get an inline connector for it to attach to the new box. Which is what Ford should have done in the first place. But why make things simple to service? ::)

Yes, I am going to have to do this. After finding the above I seriously considered not doing it, but I could barely get to the fuse box tonight with the front seats out of the car. Got to put the new one somewhere I can actually get to without removing part of the car. Thinking maybe the engine compartment. I would have to come up with a shield of some sort, ought to be able to come up with a plastic cover or even a metal one. Finding the right spot will not be a quick decision, going to have to sleep on it.

I should have read the manual first. I took the engine compartment harness out backwards. I still have to disconnect the stop light switch. Why that is part of the engine compartment harness beats me.

And the car is officially mine. It drew first blood tonight. It's never my car until I bleed for it.

Oh, and I found out that I will need either a new instrument cluster housing or will have to make one. It crumbles to the touch. Extreme crumbling.  :( Wish I had kept the gauge set I had for the Lemans. Had full gauges plus speedo and tach. But my wife keeps telling me hindsight is 20-20 and not to kick myself for past decisions that seemed right at the time. sigh.

Well, break time is over. Back to the Pinto. Even with the frustrations and disappointment s, I am enjoying working on it.

thanks,
Russ
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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #57 on: July 10, 2014, 03:04:47 AM »
Lesson learned ( I hope ). :-\
My eyes are not a tape measure. Used to be close, but not anymore.
Either the Pinto is smaller than I thought, the new fuse box is bigger, or most likely both.
And the fuse box is kind of ugly for that matter.  :P
I have a hidden place idea for it, but in the long run I probably should get a universal one from someone like Painless.
Or go find another 90 Buick like one I used to have that I took it's box. That box would be much better.
Out here though the junk yards would charge me for the harness as well. Even though I only want one foot of it.  ::)

Russ
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RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

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74 Pinto Wagon.  To be or Not to be a Pinchero, that is the question.

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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #58 on: July 10, 2014, 04:57:11 AM »
Well, I just ordered a different fuse box.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331249998398?item=331249998398&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:L:OC:US:3160&vxp=mtr
It should do the trick and was sort of in my budget. Way cheaper than the Painless one that Summit sells.
The Toyota one won't be a total waste. I will use the harness off of it and the fuses as well.

Still need to find a good place for it. I am still thinking about a hidden spot I am going to be creating later on. If that idea actually works out. :-[

Not sure what to do for a connector yet for the dash harness, as well as the engine compartment one. Finding connectors for that large number of wires isn't easy. I might be able to get the other half of the engine compartment connector off of the stock fuse box. If I manage to destroy it, I haven't lost anything really.  ;D
I found some, but way expensive. But I will figure something out sooner or later. I might have to go with a bunch of smaller conductor connectors, but that will add up fast also. :-\

This is our 9th anniversary, so I just sent her an Amazon gift card so she can buy some more books for her Kindle. She doesn't know she just bought me a present.  :-X
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Re: 2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time
« Reply #59 on: July 10, 2014, 07:11:54 AM »
RUSS! Put 30 amp fuses in all the positions on the Pinto fuse block and then put your new fuse block where you want with the right size fuses. That way the Pinto fuse box will just pass the power on to your new fuse box. Sounds good to me.
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