Author Topic: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap into a 79 Pinto (Read 26172 times)

dianne · « **Reply #120 on:** June 17, 2015, 05:46:11 AM »

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on June 16, 2015, 09:52:19 PM

A bucket of parts from different years and models makes for an interesting puzzle, lol..

It sure had, I can't wait to get to the turbo in the wagon LOL

pinto_one · « **Reply #121 on:** June 17, 2015, 05:54:11 AM »

I think I used a 55 gallon drum full of parts when I done my 76 , almost got the other drum full enough to start working on my Cruze wagon , 😜

dianne · « **Reply #122 on:** June 17, 2015, 06:05:02 AM »

Quote from: pinto_one on June 17, 2015, 05:54:11 AM

I think I used a 55 gallon drum full of parts when I done my 76 , almost got the other drum full enough to start working on my Cruze wagon , 😜

You're crazier than me ahahahahahahah aha

Well, I can't wait to see what happens with the new flex plate

Then it's rewiring.

This probably should have been under the 79 Pinto build to help someone else.

ahuffman_09 · « **Reply #123 on:** June 23, 2015, 10:06:32 AM »

I've searched and couldn't find anything but does someone know what wires on the ecm i need to tap into for power and ground?

oldkayaker · « **Reply #124 on:** June 23, 2015, 02:33:24 PM »

Below is a link to a 1988 Mustang EVTM. Might be close enough for the 1987 ecm, but look for discrepancies. For a exact match, hard copy EVTM's can found on ebay. See page 26 in the link for the main power and ground connections. Note their are several levels of power and grounds used to avoid electrical noise and circulating currents, so it is good to watch the details.
http://home.comcast.net/~smithmonte/Auto/1988_Mustang_EVTM.htm

dianne · « **Reply #125 on:** June 23, 2015, 04:37:14 PM »

Wiring mess

pinto_one · « **Reply #126 on:** June 23, 2015, 07:57:31 PM »

Not to bad , just have shorten it some and toss what you don't need , best is to look at the wiring diagram (colored coded in real color) on a table in a quite place , and take time to look it over , you will see how simple it is

dianne · « **Reply #127 on:** June 23, 2015, 08:20:50 PM »

Quote from: pinto_one on June 23, 2015, 07:57:31 PM

Not to bad , just have shorten it some and toss what you don't need , best is to look at the wiring diagram (colored coded in real color) on a table in a quite place , and take time to look it over , you will see how simple it is

It's getting closer and the guys figured out how to do it now and are laying out the new fuel lines for the EFI setup. They are going to use two fuel pumps with different flow ratios (gallons per,,,) and that will be done!

It is a process

I'm stuff doing service orders now and we're moving the shop opening on the 13th of July. I'm hoping this is done before we move

dianne · « **Reply #128 on:** June 23, 2015, 08:32:38 PM »

Quote from: pinto_one on June 23, 2015, 07:57:31 PM

Not to bad , just have shorten it some and toss what you don't need , best is to look at the wiring diagram (colored coded in real color) on a table in a quite place , and take time to look it over , you will see how simple it is

You know your stuff is in this car

That's your pan. I'm going to use the mounts in the wagon. This is a good opportunity to learn for the wagon. It's a lot of work. It's getting an overdrive transmission also. I'm going to weld the new transmission mount soon. It's gotta get the driveline changed also. It's a fun project!

Thanks for all the help

pinto_one · « **Reply #129 on:** June 24, 2015, 07:57:36 AM »

You can look at my transmission mount under the pinto gallery members photos, but the transmission tunnel is smaller on your wagon , they are a few here that has a much simpler mount for your wagon when they done it, I done it that way to make the duel exhaust pass easier to the back, you have to cut ALL of the transmission metal out from the tunnel, or your shifter rod will touch it on one side and your cooler line and vacuum line to the modulate r will hit on the other, drive shaft will have to be shortened 4 1/2 inches, same for the shifter rod ,

dianne · « **Reply #130 on:** June 26, 2015, 11:18:56 AM »

Yep, saw it

Thanks!

Cutting it out and making a new mount

Dianne

dianne · « **Reply #131 on:** June 29, 2015, 11:14:58 AM »

how did you guys do your fuel system? Is there an in tank pump option or just in line pump?

Wittsend · « **Reply #132 on:** June 29, 2015, 01:46:47 PM »

Inline pump from a F-Series Ford pickup (probably mid to late 80's). Six or so years ago it was $11 from U-Pull Parts. I used the fuel filter, relay box and impact shut-off switch from my T/C donor car. Just a word of caution. Some of the F-Series truck had a low pressure electric pump to bring the fuel to the high pressure pump. If it helps my pump was mounted on the trucks frame rail about where the door is. There are only certain years that used this inline pump. At some point they went to an in tank arrangement.

Don't forget there needs to be a return line. Some use the tank vent line but I ran a separate return by drilling and soldering into the sender unit housing. That melted the nylon electrical seal, but JB Weld fixed it up and six years later, no leaks. Both my pressure and return line were fashioned from modifying the T/C donor cars fuel lines.

dianne · « **Reply #133 on:** July 27, 2015, 05:18:10 AM »

Thank you!!!! This beats $500 of parts!

r4pinto · « **Reply #134 on:** August 01, 2015, 08:58:21 PM »

Any idea what the HP and MPG differences are between the EFI 2.3 versus the old carbed 2.3? Reading this post has got me thinking about doing it on my 80. Also are there any clearance issues with the hood with that intake?

dianne · « **Reply #135 on:** August 02, 2015, 06:21:08 AM »

Quote from: r4pinto on August 01, 2015, 08:58:21 PM

Any idea what the HP and MPG differences are between the EFI 2.3 versus the old carbed 2.3? Reading this post has got me thinking about doing it on my 80. Also are there any clearance issues with the hood with that intake?

It's about 90 for the EFI and about 88 for the Pinto 2.3 (or T88). The big thing is the MPG that it will get with the 2.3 EFI

Reeves1 · « **Reply #136 on:** August 02, 2015, 06:34:59 AM »

There is an oil glut right now......stop worrying about MPG !

dianne · « **Reply #137 on:** August 02, 2015, 06:35:52 AM »

Quote from: Reeves1 on August 02, 2015, 06:34:59 AM

There is an oil glut right now......stop worrying about MPG !

LOL

And it's more fun and a better setup

r4pinto · « **Reply #138 on:** August 02, 2015, 08:38:58 AM »

Quote from: Reeves1 on August 02, 2015, 06:34:59 AM

There is an oil glut right now......stop worrying about MPG !

When you work 40 minutes from home you always worry about MPGs

dianne · « **Reply #139 on:** August 02, 2015, 08:47:56 AM »

Quote from: r4pinto on August 02, 2015, 08:38:58 AM

When you work 40 minutes from home you always worry about MPGs

It's just a better running option also is what I should have said!

r4pinto · « **Reply #140 on:** August 02, 2015, 08:50:53 AM »

Quote from: dianne on August 02, 2015, 08:47:56 AM

It's just a better running option also is what I should have said!

Which is always good for me. Give me EFI & I can do anything. Give me a carburetor & I tend to be rather braindead.

dianne · « **Reply #141 on:** August 02, 2015, 08:55:42 AM »

Quote from: r4pinto on August 02, 2015, 08:50:53 AM

Which is always good for me. Give me EFI & I can do anything. Give me a carburetor & I tend to be rather braindead.

Well, carbs have to be adjusted

dianne · « **Reply #142 on:** August 13, 2015, 09:07:53 PM »

This is how I'm building the new transmission mount in the 79 Pinto. Just got some 1 inch square tube. That's now welded to the frame taking the old frame mount out and cutting some of it off and Welding some steel plate to those two frames that will bolt through the transmission. this is a daily driver so I'm not that worried about how it looks. No one will see under the car. The EFI and the new transmission are definitely different. This is the best way I can see you to do it. If I had the plasma cutter setup and program running I could probably cut out something pretty cool. But since it's a daily driver it's all good.

dianne · « **Reply #143 on:** August 14, 2015, 02:32:34 PM »

After we did it it would probably be better with two plates to the side an angle with round tube and bolted to the old mount, but this will work fine. Its a daily driver not a show car.

The transmission is a A4LD.

pinto_one · « **Reply #144 on:** August 14, 2015, 06:21:57 PM »

Hey Dianne did you look on my gallery photos and see how I done mine , out of the way and not hard to do , later Blaine

dianne · « **Reply #145 on:** August 14, 2015, 07:35:01 PM »

Quote from: pinto_one on August 14, 2015, 06:21:57 PM

Hey Dianne did you look on my gallery photos and see how I done mine , out of the way and not hard to do , later Blaine

That looks good actually Blaine. After doing it we saw like 50 different methods LOL. I may change it later, just wanting it on the road now.

Mine was also harder probably. Did you use a Mustang II mount?

pinto_one · « **Reply #146 on:** August 14, 2015, 07:55:48 PM »

Nope , I used the stock mount that came with the car , (2.8 V6) you have to cut away ALL of the old pinto mount one the car to clear everything, if the car had the C-3 the yoke will fit the trans only you will have to shorten the drive shaft 4 and a half inches , the pinto neutral switch will plug into the trans you have , no mods there

dianne · « **Reply #147 on:** August 14, 2015, 08:01:32 PM »

Quote from: pinto_one on August 14, 2015, 07:55:48 PM

Nope , I used the stock mount that came with the car , (2.8 V6) you have to cut away ALL of the old pinto mount one the car to clear everything, if the car had the C-3 the yoke will fit the trans only you will have to shorten the drive shaft 4 and a half inches , the pinto neutral switch will plug into the trans you have , no mods there

Yep, the drive shaft is off to being done now and yeah, I think it was that. The mount you see in mine is from this Pinto, much different than the 2.8 one. Yours looks pretty identical to a Mustang II. Mine will hold, I don't like it and will probably change it later. I have a Mustang II one laying around from a 2.3 so the exhaust is different than yours, but since mine is a 2.3 it should work. Not too certain yet on how or if I am even going to do it Blaine.

Yours does look nice!!!

r4pinto · « **Reply #148 on:** August 15, 2015, 08:38:07 AM »

looks good but is it going to be too low to the ground? I'd be concerned of bottoming out since the Pintos are pretty low to the ground as it is.

dianne · « **Reply #149 on:** August 15, 2015, 08:59:24 AM »

Quote from: r4pinto on August 15, 2015, 08:38:07 AM

looks good but is it going to be too low to the ground? I'd be concerned of bottoming out since the Pintos are pretty low to the ground as it is.

It should be fine, not that low. I can take a pic after I get the driveline back and see where I am at that point. But seemed fine when it was off the lift and measuring the driveshaft!

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