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2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap into a 79 Pinto
« on: January 25, 2015, 01:02:36 PM »
OK, I picked up a 2.3 EFI Mustang engine from a 1987. This engine should work I think. I'm getting lots with it including the engine mounts, the new components like compressor and all A/C stuff. The guy did a 5.0 swap on it so he kept the computer and everything, so I am getting it all including the auto transmission.

So what's next here, car comes back in two weeks. What will I need for the car other than the frame mounts.

Thanks everyone.

There was nothing wrong with the 2.0, but I like the idea of a modern engine in the Pinto :D If anyone needs one let me know. Have 2 auto transmissions for it also.
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2015, 01:17:21 PM »
thats great, but I would do it before you paint the car, and will get more mpg also with the efi , you just need to change the oil pan on the engine and cut off the old engine mount on the body and use 74 up body mount on the car,get some of the guy here to send you some photos of there,s , and is the automatic a over drive , even better , you will have to use the early 74 up A/C brackets for your compressor , done that before , at least here you do not have to do any R & D  , here we call it Robb and Dupaicate   :o
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2015, 01:27:18 PM »
More info, forgot to tell you that for the 2..3 engine you have to use the 74 up L&R mounts , 2.3 only , the body engine mounts, 74 up are bolt on , you will have to use the top two bolt holes and weld in the rest, the side rails are wider on newer pintos,, so guys post some photos for Dianne to see ,
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2015, 02:38:48 PM »
thats great, but I would do it before you paint the car, and will get more mpg also with the efi , you just need to change the oil pan on the engine and cut off the old engine mount on the body and use 74 up body mount on the car,get some of the guy here to send you some photos of there,s , and is the automatic a over drive , even better , you will have to use the early 74 up A/C brackets for your compressor , done that before , at least here you do not have to do any R & D  , here we call it Robb and Dupaicate   :o

I have the factory ones from the 73 2.0, but those are not using the same belts. 74 and up Mustang? This is an 87 :)

The guy I bought it from is dropping it off tomorrow. The car is already in the auto body shop :( I know I know... LOL
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2015, 02:40:29 PM »
More info, forgot to tell you that for the 2..3 engine you have to use the 74 up L&R mounts , 2.3 only , the body engine mounts, 74 up are bolt on , you will have to use the top two bolt holes and weld in the rest, the side rails are wider on newer pintos,, so guys post some photos for Dianne to see ,

I'll need to start searching for parts. This was a heck of a deal, only $300.00 for it all and low miles. We'll still do an engine refresh on it. Is that transmission OK do you know?
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2015, 07:11:24 PM »
Well that is the passenger side, you could ask the seller a question on e-bay, see if he has the drivers side, if he does tell him to include it with the rest and its a deal, when the back yard drys out from all the rain I can go to my shed and take some photos for you, got one with the engine out and one with the engine in to give you a idea how they go, none of the 2.0 stuff will work, also maybe they can remove the front fenders and hood and paint them off, reinstall them after you have the engine up and running, do the a few times and it's hell on the paint, 😣
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2015, 07:13:52 PM »
Well that is the passenger side, you could ask the seller a question on e-bay, see if he has the drivers side, if he does tell him to include it with the rest and its a deal, when the back yard drys out from all the rain I can go to my shed and take some photos for you, got one with the engine out and one with the engine in to give you a idea how they go, none of the 2.0 stuff will work, also maybe they can remove the front fenders and hood and paint them off, reinstall them after you have the engine up and running, do the a few times and it's hell on the paint, 😣

Thanks, sent it off. I'm sending the mechanics helper out tomorrow to see if he can find one. I need to have him pull the bottom radiator holder off a Mustang II. I just want my cars now :) LOL
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2015, 07:37:05 PM »
Great, what trans is on the efi 2.3 ? , if it is a A4LD, give Rebolting73 a shout for photos on his rear trans mount, he also has the 2.3 in a 73 with the over drive, he done a nice job , if you have it use it, with change the way the car is on the hwy, will try to get the photos for you tomorrow,if I don't slip and bust my butt in the mud 😜
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2015, 08:00:09 PM »
Thanks bunches!

I'm pretty excited :-) I have to think about seats, I want them black with yellow, but something more comfortable. Do you know what seats are good for these and are comfortable? Not too modern looking, but comfortable also. I'm old, so comfort is king! LOL

They should be able to fabricate something. I'm having Aaron and Alex look. Alex welds and does transmissions. So tomorrow I'll know what it has with it. It's auto like mine. I think I'll need a new shifter though, we'll see. Aaron will refresh the motor and Alex can fabricate what he needs. These guys, Matt also, are skilled. They are doing a 6 to 8 on a Jeep, first in the valley to do the swap. Wiring is hard because a lot of splicing on the harness.
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2015, 09:18:40 PM »
Same here with old butt getting old and want a good seat to fit the wrinkles on the back side, if you are going to redo the inside to match you should fid a good seat guy that is good with cutting new foam for the old seats , the foam I use on aircraft is called temper foam, we replace the 50 plus year old foam with this stuff, the heat from your body makes it soft in spots and fit the wrinkles on your butt, nice when you sit for hours in one spot flying along , also you can make the seats look stock but have the feel of a high end car,  ??? 8)
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2015, 05:47:15 AM »
That's what I want :D  I am going to do the seats in black and yellow :)
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2015, 09:01:44 AM »
Hey Dianne, here are the photos of the mount I took for you
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2015, 09:04:07 AM »
guess I will have to send a photo at a time, it will only let me send one at a time
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2015, 09:07:02 AM »
this is the right engine mount on the engine , and also you have to have the front sump oil pan, the efi engine in the fox body is in the rear
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2015, 09:14:12 AM »
If you need a oil pan let me know I have one and also I have extra brackets to mount the A/C compressor to the engine if you want them, it will fit the stock compressor and lines you have now, (done it before ) so you can still have A/C , You might as will drive cool and be cool at the same time driving you pinto 8), this photo is looking down on the left side mount with the engine installed , hope this helps , later Blaine
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2015, 09:37:26 AM »
Do we need another oil pan? I want it if I need it!

Aaron, you should see this all now...

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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2015, 09:38:44 AM »
I need all the mounts...

Thanks,

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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2015, 10:05:00 AM »
 I will look this weekend to see if I have any extra mounts in my stash of pinto parts, have to look in the back of the parts car to see if I can find the pick up tube to go with the oil pan, and anyone reading this post that has a 71 to 73 pinto and has the 2.3 swapped into them send Dianne some photos so her guys and get the idea how to do it, as said a picture is a thousand words (or hours saved in our case ) , and once you put a hole in metal it is hard to take it back , ask me how I know  :o
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2015, 10:12:04 AM »
Thanks so much again for the help. Aaron has read this this morning. The engine will be there any day now, maybe this evening.

I do want the oil pan and any of the parts you have there and let me know. We are going to do an engine refresh on the motor, so all gaskets will be replaced :)

Thanks again,

Dianne

PS - Aaron and the crew will NOT scratch any paint ;)
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2015, 12:12:13 PM »
Great on not scratching the paint,  but  let them know that you have whips and chains on standby ,  ;D
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2015, 05:02:57 PM »
Great on not scratching the paint,  but  let them know that you have whips and chains on standby ,  ;D

Aaron's wife is my admin assistant. She'll beat him to a pulp if he scratches that new yellow paint!

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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2015, 07:46:31 PM »
great, I managed to dig some before it go to dark, got both side rail mounts, and one engine mount, have to dig the the other stash places for the other , also got all the brackets and adjustment pulley for the A/C, could not see much of the front of the engine , does it have V belts, if not I have dig up some pulleys for you , Blaine
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2015, 07:51:10 PM »
great, I managed to dig some before it go to dark, got both side rail mounts, and one engine mount, have to dig the the other stash places for the other , also got all the brackets and adjustment pulley for the A/C, could not see much of the front of the engine , does it have V belts, if not I have dig up some pulleys for you , Blaine

I'll take some pictures tomorrow :) That's awesome! This is pretty cool and I'm excited as all heck!!! LOL
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2015, 10:17:01 PM »
I used all the mustang accessories on my 91 2.3 swap into my 74....includin g the ac compressor and internally regulated alternator... Kept the serpentine belt system as well. It looks nice and modern and works very well.


You will need a front sump oil pan, with the pickup tube and the dipstick and its tube. You may have to drill the hole for the pickup tube in the block and plug the old hole (I did with my 91, but your 87 might have the hole there still, not sure)
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2015, 11:13:48 PM »
This is going into a 73, also got the stock compressor, which is v belt , the serpentine is hard to find and $$$$,for that compressor  (unless you got one to donate ) 
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2015, 06:48:35 AM »
This is going into a 73, also got the stock compressor, which is v belt , the serpentine is hard to find and $$$$,for that compressor  (unless you got one to donate )

I have most of the orginial AC stuff for the factory air. I need the stuff for the new setup. I want to keep the serpentine belts also!
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2015, 07:03:01 AM »
I used all the mustang accessories on my 91 2.3 swap into my 74....includin g the ac compressor and internally regulated alternator... Kept the serpentine belt system as well. It looks nice and modern and works very well.

You will need a front sump oil pan, with the pickup tube and the dipstick and its tube. You may have to drill the hole for the pickup tube in the block and plug the old hole (I did with my 91, but your 87 might have the hole there still, not sure)

Well OK, Aaron, Matt, and Alex, let's take a look at this and see what we need to do. I want all the new stuff in the Pinto :) The modern look in the Pinto would be cool!
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2015, 10:33:27 AM »
just to let you know I found the other engine mount this morning , still have to find the oil pump pick up tube and two front springs , I have only seen one compressor like yours with the serpentine clutch, long ago, a few years ago looked for one and they were pricey $$$ guess when you get the A/C brackets from me you could find one to test the fit and see if the belt will line up with the pulley on the engine, let you know when I dig up the rest so I can box this up and send it all to you , so around Monday or Tuesday at the latest ,  :D
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Re: 2.3 EFI 1987 Mustang Pinto swap
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2015, 07:00:51 AM »
just to let you know I found the other engine mount this morning , still have to find the oil pump pick up tube and two front springs , I have only seen one compressor like yours with the serpentine clutch, long ago, a few years ago looked for one and they were pricey $$$ guess when you get the A/C brackets from me you could find one to test the fit and see if the belt will line up with the pulley on the engine, let you know when I dig up the rest so I can box this up and send it all to you , so around Monday or Tuesday at the latest ,  :D

OK, I guess I'm in for some other surprises when this engine goes in. PM me with everything :)

They haven't gotten to this engine yet, I'm gonna be last and my King in my shop right now and the Pinto at the painters. Hopefully they will get to it soon.
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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