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Re: 1977 Pinto- project in the works
« Reply #120 on: May 06, 2009, 06:44:28 PM »
I'll check it out. I don't think that's where it is since the leak is more towards the back but it doesn't hurt to take a look.
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Re: 1977 Pinto- project in the works
« Reply #121 on: May 07, 2009, 12:46:23 AM »
Another thing I just thought of to check would be the tail light seals. They use a foam type gasket that tends to leak after time. I replaced mine with a cheap foam fender mat, cut it up into the shapes I needed and double layered them.
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« Reply #122 on: May 07, 2009, 05:41:57 AM »
hmmm I'll give those a check
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« Reply #123 on: May 09, 2009, 01:39:17 AM »
matt, I have a site you can check out for your color samples
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« Reply #124 on: May 09, 2009, 10:39:06 AM »
Thansk Phil! I'll give that site a look :D
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« Reply #125 on: May 09, 2009, 08:47:35 PM »
I was gonna install the tranny today but instead I cleaned up the garage & rebuilt my replacement carb. It's not going to be bolted on just yet because I still have to drop the tank and clean it out so I dont plug up the replacement carb. I hope to install the tranny tomorrow but we'll see.
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« Reply #126 on: May 12, 2009, 04:51:57 PM »
Well, I was removing the rear seat so I could locate the source of the trnk leak & found a very bad problem.. See the pic below



I know it's a 32 year old car but this is not good. If I'm gonna save her I need some major welding
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« Reply #127 on: May 12, 2009, 04:55:41 PM »
The driver side rear just needs some minor fixing with a couple minor spots but this is very bad for the passenger side rear, especially since the whole front floor is shot. On the upside the transmission tunnel looks brand new.I got some major deciding now. Do I try to find a good shell nearby or do I fix what I got.. I can figure a way to pull the engine & it's got no tranny. I have yet to install the 8" rear.. Oh man.. what to do  :-\
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« Reply #128 on: May 12, 2009, 04:55:41 PM »
I feel your pain!!
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« Reply #129 on: May 12, 2009, 05:03:51 PM »
I wish my pasenger front floor looked that good :(

With this car lately it's been one step forward and about 50 steps back. I love this car more than the 78 I used to own. It prolly shows by all the work I have done to her lately. I do not want to let her go but I might have to :'(
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« Reply #130 on: May 12, 2009, 05:21:19 PM »
It's getting really grim for Harold II. It might be the end for her.  :'(  :'(
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« Reply #131 on: May 12, 2009, 05:58:55 PM »
What I have decided is more than likely gut the interior, and take a close look at what I got to work with. I am pretty sure it's worse looking than the back but only time will tell what I find.
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« Reply #132 on: May 12, 2009, 08:23:35 PM »
As Snowman said in Smokey and the Bandit, "oh whoa whoa, Come on now, You've come this far, If we do a job we finish the job". I know it's easy for me to say "don't stop now" but you HAVE come this far. Take a few days off from the car. Have a beer, then with a cleared mind make your decision. Bandit has beat me up a few times and I almost quit. I came to realize Bandit can't die, I must restore her heart and sole. This week her engine went bye bye, found more rust, broke a major part for the full glass hatch. I have made a promise to have Bandit at the 2011 Carlisle. So to end my rant, it's up to you, I hope you keep Harold II alive even if it's thru another car with parts from him.

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« Reply #133 on: May 12, 2009, 08:35:28 PM »
Yeah, I know what you are saying. Actually after I found more rust on the driver side I went out & picked me up a 24 oz Bud Ice. It wasn't the best beer I coulda had but all I could afford. It atleast did the job for me though.. I figure I'll patch the rear floor with the help of a friend my Dad works with. That is more severe than the front floor. Eventually I will get to the front floor. Atleast I have the front of an old washer in the garage for that very puropse. I also have the old left front fender I will cut up & use for grafting new metal.
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« Reply #134 on: May 12, 2009, 08:41:02 PM »
There you go, I like Fosters myself. You have gave me some added "omph" to get back to work on mine. I'll meet you at Carlisle in 2011, I'll have the Pinto!
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« Reply #135 on: May 12, 2009, 09:25:52 PM »
matt, i have a compleat floor  pass side from project kat  that i do not need  pm  me and see if we can work something out
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« Reply #136 on: May 12, 2009, 09:29:13 PM »
PM sent phil Thanks.
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« Reply #137 on: May 13, 2009, 12:30:33 PM »
Well,

after taking the night to rest while drinking a beer I figured out what I am gonna do about the cancer. As a temporary fix to keep the rodents out of the car I am gonna pop rivet some sheet metal over the holes. When my dad finally follows through with the welder he promised me last Christmas I am going to weld in new sheet metal on the floor. A guy he works with knows how to weld so I'm gonna see if he will show me how. This car means alot to me since it is a newer model of my mom's first car and also named after her car. Hers was a 71 Pinto sedan named Harold, thus my sedan named Harold II. I'll keep you all posted on what happens here. One thing.. I am unsure what attracted more rust. The 1985 Dodge Omni GLH Turbo or this car. Either way they both were rust magnets  ;D. I don't miss that car since I bought a clean silver version of her to replace her. I REFUSE to do the same thing to Harold II!
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« Reply #138 on: May 13, 2009, 06:30:04 PM »
Yet, another update....

It started raining so I went ahead & got a flashlight to check into the trunk leak. Dave, you are right. The tail lights are leaking water. Gotta reseal them. I also noticed that there is a missing bolt for the bumper filler & one of the holes were letting water in. I am guessing the water is running off the panel & into the hole. There is also the trunk seal issue... I used a method suggested by Dave to reseal the trunk.. Well, it no go. I used a cheap spongey seal and it is soaking up the water. My guess is the seal is soaking it up then the water is flowing from the seal to the trunk. I'll have to try again. Next is to do a patch job on the floor & fix the trunk leak.
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« Reply #139 on: May 13, 2009, 08:54:28 PM »
Glad to see you have pinpointed the leaks, now it's just a matter of sealing them up!

I will snap a shot of where my quarter panels were leaking and I had to seal up. It's a fold in the metal at the back that has an open corner and lets water fill up inside the quarter panels. Better explained with pictures...
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« Reply #140 on: May 13, 2009, 09:11:46 PM »
That would be awesome! Thanks for any assistance on the trunk leak. I am so willing to learn so I can get this car in the shape she needs to be in. One good thing happened tonite is I won a pair of control arms off ebay for  $10.51. They are in better shape than mine and are only 20 minutes away from me so I can pick them up. They do need the lower ball joints and bushings but the ones on my car are shot so it's all good anyways.

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« Reply #141 on: May 14, 2009, 10:47:02 PM »
 Is there a reason you want to go with a metal patch for the floor boards??  When my hubby used to work on VW bugs, he would use fiberglass to patch the rust holes. It comes in big sheets and you could probably do the whole floor board by cutting the sheet to the shape of it. Then just poor and spread the resin on it and let it dry. It drys clear so hubby would put a business card in it before it dried! LOL When he did his kid's bug, they put pictures in it too! 

In fact I have 4 holes in my floor boards and when we get ready to put new carpet in the car, that is how I will have him fix them. I will probably ad a pic or something in it too! LOL
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« Reply #142 on: May 15, 2009, 05:38:32 AM »
That woud work except for one major problem... just about the entire floor needs replaced. Yup, it's that bad lol.
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« Reply #143 on: May 17, 2009, 06:07:01 PM »
THE TRANNY IS IN!! THE TRANNY IS IN!!

In case you couldn't tell, I am happy that Harold II finally has a tranny installed for the first time in just over 11 months. I have a few little odds & ends to finalise the install, like replacing the driveshaft rear u-joint, hooking up the cooler lines, bolting the torque convertor to the flexplate, draining & refilling the tranny itself and of course hooking up the starter but I am still a very, very happy camper.

I ran into a problem with the flexplate bolt I got to replace one I lost. It was too long & wouldn't fully tighten up. Since I was in a major bind I oouldn't wait to get one from someone on here, so I went to O'Reilly Auto & bought a 3 pack of Mr Gasket flexplate bolts for about $7. A bit pricey, but I had no choice, aside from leaving it off, which was a no no... Anyhow, it is bolted up in there & fills the void quite nicely.

More to come soon.
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« Reply #144 on: May 17, 2009, 08:22:59 PM »
Got a little more work done to the car...

The torque converter bolts are on, block to bell housing torqued down, oil pan back on & oil back in the engine. Because the rings are the original from 1977 I decided to go with a little heavier weight, using 10w-40 instead of 10w-30. No leaks at all, so my decision to replace the rear seal has proven to be good. Tomorrow I am going to drop the transmission pan, install the new gasket & filter & put fresh transmission fluid in her. I am also going to reinstall the starter, as well as replacing a torn tie rod end boot. The tie rod end was replaced in 2006 so I know it is still good. I tore it when I was removing it from the steering knuckle to make dropping the steering rack easier. More to come soon.
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« Reply #145 on: May 17, 2009, 09:47:41 PM »
Sounds like you are making some pretty good progress!! You will be road worthy in no time!!!  ;D
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« Reply #146 on: May 17, 2009, 10:08:36 PM »
Oh, I sure hope so Kim. I tell ya though, I am on cloud 9 since that happened today though. Hoping all goes as well tomorrow for me.
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« Reply #147 on: May 20, 2009, 06:07:27 PM »
Well,

not much has gone on with my Pinto since I got the tranny back in. A few things I did get done to the car include reinstalling the tranny dipstick, installing the egr valve line that goes to the exhaust and installing the exhaust downpipe.

Back in 2006 when my car died on the way home from Carlisle the idiot tow truck driver broke my exhaust pipe. I have had it rigged up with a sheet metal patch to quiet the car enough to drive but I needed to fix it better. I installed a downpipe I bought off quickrick on here and just now got it taken care of.

I had to cut off the end a little so I could use an exhaust coupler to connect the pipe, but I couldn't get it to slide over the new piece. After some heating and hammering I got the reducer on. Only problem is the reducer is the same size as the original pipe. What I did to remedy that is joined them using another coupler to go over both, the oe main pipe and the replacement downpipe.

Tomorrow I'm gonna do a test fit on the pipe & make any adjustments as needed for length. I'm also going to fabricate a new exhaust hanger, as the rear one that was welded to the pipe has long since broken off. No coat hangers will be used. If I am going to fix it I will fix it right, or as close to it as my budget and parts availability will allow. I'll take some pics of what I am doing.
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Re: 1977 Pinto- project in the works
« Reply #148 on: May 20, 2009, 06:32:05 PM »
Great news about getting the tranny back in! Hope to here Harold II is on the road soon!

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Re: 1977 Pinto- project in the works
« Reply #149 on: May 20, 2009, 06:41:48 PM »
 :) Thanks Chuck, I hope so too. If all goes according to plan I'll have the car on the road in a couple weeks. Gotta get a few more things buttoned up on her before the Ohio meet in July.
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