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Shiny is Good! => Your Project => Topic started by: Pinto5.0 on July 01, 2013, 11:40:02 AM
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I finally bit the bullet & bought the '71 half hatch I've always wanted. Finding one close to home was proving impossible after 4 years & the cost of a nice "Cali" car exceeded my means so I bought a project from another member. I decided to call her Ghost because I've never seen one in person until this one & I have to bring it back from the dead. Seems fitting ;) All I need to do now is find time to go & get her so I can get started.
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It needs some assembly to get it roadworthy but it's pretty much complete. I plan to drive it daily until a time when I can afford a more in-depth restoration though I don't plan to go nuts on it. Just a good R&R that wont take her out of service longer than a few winter months.
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The only rust through on the car is this lower quarter. Luckily I already have a clean lower quarter & drop down to replace the bad area.
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It's a 2.0L/4-speed car with a nice black interior. 1 minor crack in the dash pad & the lower seat cushion on the drivers side is worn but other than that nothing needs replaced. I can't wait to start driving this car.
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The hatch has only minor surface rust on the lip & the window seal is still soft & pliable. All the rubber is in excellent condition since this car was garaged for years away from the elements.
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Looks like you did just fine for yourself, there! Shouldn't be too much involved in getting her back on the road and you'll be driving a truly rare car! Enjoy!
Dwayne :)
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It needs some assembly to get it roadworthy but it's pretty much complete. I plan to drive it daily until a time when I can afford a more in-depth restoration though I don't plan to go nuts on it. Just a good R&R that wont take her out of service longer than a few winter months
Ummmmmmmmm , didn't I read that before ? ;D
Thought the same with Ugly Yeller. Now doing mods I had not plans for till the resto in 2-3 years from now ::)
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Looks like you did just fine for yourself, there! Shouldn't be too much involved in getting her back on the road and you'll be driving a truly rare car! Enjoy!
Dwayne :)
I figured I'd have a hatch off one some day but I was thrilled to lay my hands on the whole car. It nearly ended up being parted out. I'm glad I went for it & I'll probably die with this one still in my garage :P
Ummmmmmmmm , didn't I read that before ? ;D
Thought the same with Ugly Yeller. Now doing mods I had not plans for till the resto in 2-3 years from now ::)
I looked it over pretty good. Everything is there & just needs assembly plus I have my '73 to rob for parts I may be missing. It comes with a 4-speed & I have another so one should be good. The only unknown is the engine. It comes with one that probably runs & I have one that may run. If both 2.0's are bad then I'm screwed. I have 2 complete gasket sets, NOS fuel pump, water pump, carburetor, motor/trans. mounts & a brand new Joe Hunt magneto for a 2.0 so I'm covered on everything short of having 2 junk long blocks.
BTW, anyone ever run a magneto in a driver before? I got it for my buggy which is where my 2.0 was destined but it would be kinda cool running it in my driver. Even with no battery & a junk alternator I could drive the car home.
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Looks like a cool project, you can run a mag but since you have to run solid core wires may have an issue with the radio, other than that it'll work just fine..
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Looks like a cool project, you can run a mag but since you have to run solid core wires may have an issue with the radio, other than that it'll work just fine..
Crap! I forgot about the RFI from a mag. I have a killer stereo waiting for this car so scratch that idea.
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Might check with one of them hot rod stereo places they may have a filter strong enough for that?, wouldn't hurt to ask what the heck..
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IF IT NEEDS A TRUNK I HAVE ONE SAME COLOR, BE WILLING TO MAKE A TRADE FOR THE V6 PARTS IF YOU WOULD LIKE!!
THINK ITS FUNNY ITS THE SAME TAN/BROWN COLOR!! CLEAN WILL TAKE PICS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
LET ME KNOW
ERIC
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That's actually a small window hatch out back. It's like the Holy Grail of early Pintos. What I really would like to find is the thin chrome molding that goes around the tail lights & across the hatch. I'm not in love with the monster bumper guards but I hope they will grow on me. I'm also in the hunt for '76 chrome headlight rings, extensions & hood chrome. Usually I like removing chrome & trim but for some crazy reason this car screams "ADD CHROME" when I look at it.
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WILL CHECK BELIEVE I HAVE THE CHROME TRIM ON MY TRUNK LID!!
NOW AFTER LOOKING AGAIN! IT IS A HATCH WITH A SMALL WINDOW I HAVE SEEN 3 OF THEM IN MY LIFE!! GREAT FIND!!
AS FAR AS THE 76 CHROME AND EXTENSIONS FOR THE HEAD LIGHTS JUST SOLD THE COUPLE I DID HAVE ON EPAY, WISH I WOULD HAVE KNOWN WOULD HAVE HOOKED YA UP!
THE ONLY HOOD CHROME I HAVE IS THE FORD ON THE HOOD FOR A 71-75
IF YA NEED ANY TRIM AROUND THE SIDE WINDOWS OR DOOR TRIM LET ME KNOW, HAVE A COMPLETE SET I GOT FOR SPARE PARTS THAT I AM GOING TO SELL!!
TAKE CARE AND TALK SOON
ERIC
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I have some chrome headlight bezels and extension pieces if you are interested.
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WILL CHECK BELIEVE I HAVE THE CHROME TRIM ON MY TRUNK LID!!
NOW AFTER LOOKING AGAIN! IT IS A HATCH WITH A SMALL WINDOW I HAVE SEEN 3 OF THEM IN MY LIFE!! GREAT FIND!!
TAKE CARE AND TALK SOON
ERIC
Cool, let me know if you happen to have it. I never saw a half hatch in person before this one, only pics. The 1st surprise I got was the scissors hatch prop in lieu of gas shocks. I had no idea it came that way. Let me know when you are gonna be in the vicinity so we can hook up.
I have some chrome headlight bezels and extension pieces if you are interested.
Definitely interested. PM sent
A facebook friend gave me the idea for the extra chrome. I love it on my '76 wagon but hadn't considered how good it looks on a thin bumper car, especially a dark colored one. I'm leaning black....
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I know I will be in ohio In October, maybe sooner will keep you posted!1
thanks
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if you can please post a photo of the scissors hatch prop, I have never seen it.
Thanks
Bill
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if you can please post a photo of the scissors hatch prop, I have never seen it.
Thanks
Bill
I wont have mine home to take pics for a couple weeks but I found an ad that shows them. Amazing that I never noticed them before.
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got it!!!
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you are right about that front end with the chrome trim! that looks awsome!! kinda surprised they didnt do that from the factory with ford was back in the day with trim, my bobcats have tons of alum trim as well!!
take care
if you need / want more pics of the trim let me know!
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got it!!!
Cool! That's what I'm after. How are the side pieces?
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THE PIECES AROUND THE TAIL LIGHTS??
DONT HAVE THOSE IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT! SORRY
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THE PIECES AROUND THE TAIL LIGHTS??
DONT HAVE THOSE IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT! SORRY
Yep, but no biggie. I'll keep an eye out or maybe hit Fred up for the ends. I'm nowhere near ready to install any of those parts at this point.
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OK
WELL IF YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE LET ME KNOW!!
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One brake caliper & the new heater core arrived today. Still waiting on the other caliper & brake hoses. Also found an NOS master cylinder & it's on the way. I was right about early wheel cylinders being different & boy are they expensive. I guess I'll run the originals & not worry unless they start leaking.
I started whipping my car trailer into shape so I can go fetch my new car but I may just rent a tow dolly & grab it in a couple weeks.
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Some more new parts arrived. Now I need to go get the car.
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I'm getting some work done on my trailer between rain showers. Too bad I can't fit it in the garage.
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After 25 years my deck boards were shot.
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The fenders rusted out years ago but I bought new ones that I'm finally gonna install.
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I also had 2 rotted crossmembers even though the rest of them are in great shape.
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Hopefully I'll have it roadworthy in a couple weeks.
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I've been busy finding parts & getting ready to bring the car home. Work picked up & brought work on my car trailer to a standstill so no clue when I'm gonna make this happen. I can't wait too much longer because I need the car running & driving by the end of September.
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I found an NOS pair of Moog ES417R tie rod ends for $47 shipped. There are cheaper ones out there but I've NEVER had a Moog part fail in 30 years so I'll pay extra to get them if I find them. I already have new K8212 upper ball joints but the 71-73 only lowers are pricey so I'm gonna wait a bit to get them.
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I found a set of NOS D1FZ-13200-A & B front marker lenses for $36 shipped. I don't even know if I need them but that was too cheap to pass up.
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I couldn't pass up an early NOS armrest for $15 even though it's ginger & I need black but vinyl dye is cheap & I've never seen black ones pop up, NOS or used.
K8169 UCA bushings are still available new & cheap as are the K8196 strut rod bushings. I can't find a part number for early LCA bushings by Moog but there are others available when I'm ready to R&R the front suspension.
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When it comes to suspension parts MOOG is the only option, the cheap s*** is exactly what it is, cheap s***!....
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I have my wheels. I picked up these 13x6 last week in northern Michigan. They aren't perfect but I'd give them a 9 out of 10. The 205-60 tires are all like new.
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Today I picked up this pair of 13x7's near my house with what looks like new 215-60 BFG tires that are date coded 1997.
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That should give me the old school look I'm after. I love the deep dish rears.
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So jelious of that find!! 2 set n BFg tires man what a find!!! Have a staggered set myself but need to be re chromed to be perfect !!!
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The chrome on these rears is maybe a 7 1/2 & 2 of the fronts are close to a 9. The other 2 are 7 1/2 also. I've got $340 wrapped up in all 6 with near new rubber so no complaints. If it was gonna be a show car I'd spring for re-chroming but for a driver they will be perfect.
I have a pair of 195/60/13 & a pair of 235/50/13 BFG's from the 80's with the older block letters I'd love to run but they have a little dryrot in the treads. It's a shame because they have maybe 2000 miles on the set. They are on a set of Appliance 4 spokes that could use re-chroming.
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Sweet find !
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need one tire for my set looking for a bfg 205 60 r13, one of them has a nice gash in the side wall. was that way when I got them. the tires are just has hard to find as the rims are! that was a great buy, 2 sets with tires and be under $350.00 you stole them!! take care!!
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Finally something to report. The never ending Ohio winter wont let up so I decided to go get my car. I built this towbar last fall & planned to get it in October but the weather turned bad & stayed that way.
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A few weeks ago it was buried in snow. I hate winter!
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My towbar worked perfectly & I zipped along at 70 mph most of the way home. One of the 35 year old bias ply tires lost the tread along the way but I took a couple spares with me just in case.
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I'm just glad to finally have it home so I can get it assessed & gather any parts I still need. I've got a ton of stuff already but the flat tire change let me see that it needs rotors so I already bought a new pair off Amazon this afternoon.
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The car is cleaner than I thought so I already have everything I need. I picked up NOS doors, right quarter panel & outer wheelhouse. Now if spring ever hits I can get it in my new garage once it's built.
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A couple more body pics.
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I bought this 45K mile 2.0 engine off Ebay since it was 10 miles from the Pinto & picked it up on my way home. The original engine locked up with 66,000 original miles & it's been sitting ever since.
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I nabbed this Offy intake for my other engine but it may find it's way on this car eventually.
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Also found this valve cover on Ebay & it's definitely going on the engine.
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COME ON WARM WEATHER!!!
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Winter does zoop, looks like a cool project.
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You didn't have enough to do anyway , right ? ;D
Nice job on the tow bar !
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You didn't have enough to do anyway , right ? ;D
Yeah, I'm a glutton for punishment. I have enough to keep me busy till 10 years after I'm 6 feet under.
Nice job on the tow bar !
Thanks. It was cheaper to build than to rent a tow dolly from Uhaul to bring it home. It works great.
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It was finally warm enough to organize my parts. I've been forgetting what I have for which cars. I almost can't bring myself to install this since it made it almost 40 years in the original box but I gotta run it!
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I got new rotors so now I have everything new front & rear. Master cylinder, rotors, pads, calipers, hoses, wheel bearings, seals, NOS rear wheel cylinders, brake shoes, spring kit & the rubber brake hose.
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I'm planning on running 76 headlight & hood trim & I had a nice pair of buckets but found some NOS ones to go with the NOS hood moulding.
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Nabbed some vintage CP Performance chrome pedals, NOS 71 door handles & armrest, NOS front parking lights & I managed to find NOS tail light trim. I have a set of used ones but the price was right. Now if I can find the upper & lower pieces NOS I'll grab em.
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I managed to get a killer deal on 4 of the elusive K-8163 lower ball joints though with 66K original miles I'm hoping I don't need them right away.
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I hope I can get on this car this year though I may not be able to dig in until July since I have 10 other priorities but I'm talking with a guy about hanging my NOS quarter & outer wheelhouse now since the car is just sitting anyhow. I was going to wait on the body until next year but this seems to be the perfect time to get on it.
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Nice parts !
Been buying a few myself.
Will be watching for all ball joints for a couple cars as well...so if you see them & are not buying them, give me a heads up - 72s ?
Getting hard for me too with the parts....excep t I am putting them in plastic tubs & marking them for each project.
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Will be watching for all ball joints for a couple cars as well...so if you see them & are not buying them, give me a heads up - 72s ?
If you want Moog just search Ebay daily for the K8163 & eventually they pop up cheap. It took me a little over a year to get enough for both cars but I only have $205 wrapped up in all 4. Advance Auto Parts sells them in Rare Parts brand & using discount codes they could be had for about $80 each.
Getting hard for me too with the parts....excep t I am putting them in plastic tubs & marking them for each project.
I've tried to box them & label the boxes to keep it straight but with parts for 4 cars it's getting confusing. At this point I think I have every part for the 80, 99% of the wagon parts & maybe 90% of the 71 parts. The 73 will be built with what's leftover so I'm not even sweating that car yet.
The only stuff I need for this 71 is minor. A smooth front bumper (I have the stock one with the rubber strips) to go with my smooth NOS rear, new carpet (the original SMELLS!), a deluxe interior if I can find one (mine's nice but it's the base version), 71-72 front bumper brackets & a pair of NOS 71 window cranks. Otherwise I've got it all in boxes ready to go.
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Part number may be K8162 ?
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/brands/Moog
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No, it's K8163 for the lowers. K8212 is the upper for all years,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Pinto-1971-73-NOS-Front-Lower-Ball-Joint-Moog-K8163-Made-in-USA-DiFZ-3050-A-/121289342974?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c3d687ffe&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Pinto-1971-73-NOS-Front-Lower-Ball-Joint-Moog-K8163-Made-in-USA-DiFZ-3050-A-/121289342974?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c3d687ffe&vxp=mtr)
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/rare-parts-ball-joint-10303/20510122-P?searchTerm=ball+joint (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/rare-parts-ball-joint-10303/20510122-P?searchTerm=ball+joint)
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Cool - Thanks !
Now for all the other part numbers for all the front end parts & spring bushings ;D
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Lower ball joint K8163 Moog
Upper ball joint K8212 Moog
Upper control arm bushings K8169 Moog
Lower Control Arm Bushing Rare Parts RP15196
Tie rod ends ES417R Moog
Rack bellows Left K8581 Moog
Rack Bellows Right K8582 Moog (extremely rare but ACDelco 45A7008, Mevotech MK8582 & Raybestos 430-1010 are available)
Raybestos 576-3338 or ACDelco 45G15338 Leaf Spring Bushing
Leaf Spring Shackle Assembly RP35117 or ACDelco 45G13017
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Howdy,
Just curious where you got the Hurst shifter from....ebay? I know they're pretty rare, especially N.I.B. like this one. I sold one on ebay a few years ago, still new in the box, and wondered if this is the same one. My ebay name is "cossiepinto200 4". It would be cool that it's now yours and has found a good home.
Good luck with your project!
Paul a.k.a. cossiepinto
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Howdy,
Just curious where you got the Hurst shifter from....ebay? I know they're pretty rare, especially N.I.B. like this one. I sold one on ebay a few years ago, still new in the box, and wondered if this is the same one. My ebay name is "cossiepinto200 4". It would be cool that it's now yours and has found a good home.
Good luck with your project!
Paul a.k.a. cossiepinto
It looks like I bought it in August of last year off treeman62676 for $150 shipped. I'd swear I paid more than that but the only other new one I saw on ebay went for over $200 shipped so I can't complain.
I have mint vintage 2 5/8" Sun blue line oil & temp gauges in chrome cups for the steering column & matching vacuum & voltage gauges for under the dash. I'm going to buy a new retro Sun tach 802 to complete the old school look because I refuse to fiddle with a 40+ year old tach transmitter.
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Cool.
I don't remember when I ebayed mine, but it was several years ago. I guess I could look back and see. I bought it from a guy in NC, who had two of them at the time. When I decided to go with a different gearbox, the shifter was of no use any more. I do remember I got a pretty penny for the thing, but I don't know if it was any $150 to $200!
Check out the Cosworth Pinto in the "Projects" forum. That's my car there.
Good luck on your project!
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I've been following your build. I'm hoping to duplicate your level of detail in some areas.
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I finally found a set of 14x7 rear slots to go with my 14x6 fronts that I found a couple years ago. The rears are 4 1/2" bolt pattern but that's close enough. I'll just get a pair of 4 1/4" to 4 1/2" wheel adapters. Some day I hope to find a pair that wont need adapters but I've been searching more than 2 years so far & this is the closest I can get.
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I paid dearly for these 14x6 fronts in the correct bolt pattern.
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I'm chasing a vintage look & these slots are exactly what I need.
I picked up some 4 ear center caps to use on the rear wheels. Now I need 2 ET decals for them.
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I'd love to put a half hatch on my 73
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I'd love to put a half hatch on my 73
I searched 30 years for the right half hatch to restore. I always wanted to dress one up like it was hot rodded in the mid 70's & left untouched.