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"GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« on: July 01, 2013, 11:40:02 AM »
I finally bit the bullet & bought the '71 half hatch I've always wanted. Finding one close to home was proving impossible after 4 years & the cost of a nice "Cali" car exceeded my means so I bought a project from another member. I decided to call her Ghost because I've never seen one in person until this one & I have to bring it back from the dead. Seems fitting  ;)  All I need to do now is find time to go & get her so I can get started.
 

 
It needs some assembly to get it roadworthy but it's pretty much complete. I plan to drive it daily until a time when I can afford a more in-depth restoration though I don't plan to go nuts on it. Just a good R&R that wont take her out of service longer than a few winter months.
 

 
The only rust through on the car is this lower quarter. Luckily I already have a clean lower quarter & drop down to replace the bad area.
 

 
It's a 2.0L/4-speed car with a nice black interior. 1 minor crack in the dash pad & the lower seat cushion on the drivers side is worn but other than that nothing needs replaced. I can't wait to start driving this car.
 

 
The hatch has only minor surface rust on the lip & the window seal is still soft & pliable. All the rubber is in excellent condition since this car was garaged for years away from the elements.
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2013, 12:24:28 PM »
Looks like you did just fine for yourself, there!  Shouldn't be too much involved in getting her back on the road and you'll be driving a truly rare car!  Enjoy!
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2013, 01:52:21 PM »
Quote
It needs some assembly to get it roadworthy but it's pretty much complete. I plan to drive it daily until a time when I can afford a more in-depth restoration though I don't plan to go nuts on it. Just a good R&R that wont take her out of service longer than a few winter months


Ummmmmmmmm , didn't I read that before ?  ;D

Thought the same with Ugly Yeller. Now doing mods I had not plans for till the resto in 2-3 years from now  ::)

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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2013, 02:57:06 PM »
Looks like you did just fine for yourself, there!  Shouldn't be too much involved in getting her back on the road and you'll be driving a truly rare car!  Enjoy!
Dwayne :)

I figured I'd have a hatch off one some day but I was thrilled to lay my hands on the whole car. It nearly ended up being parted out. I'm glad I went for it & I'll probably die with this one still in my garage  :P
 

Ummmmmmmmm , didn't I read that before ?  ;D

Thought the same with Ugly Yeller. Now doing mods I had not plans for till the resto in 2-3 years from now  ::)

I looked it over pretty good. Everything is there & just needs assembly plus I have my '73 to rob for parts I may be missing. It comes with a 4-speed & I have another so one should be good. The only unknown is the engine. It comes with one that probably runs & I have one that may run. If both 2.0's are bad then I'm screwed. I have 2 complete gasket sets, NOS fuel pump, water pump, carburetor, motor/trans. mounts & a brand new Joe Hunt magneto for a 2.0 so I'm covered on everything short of having 2 junk long blocks.
 
BTW, anyone ever run a magneto in a driver before? I got it for my buggy which is where my 2.0 was destined but it would be kinda cool running it in my driver. Even with no battery & a junk alternator I could drive the car home.
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2013, 03:09:10 PM »
Looks like a cool project, you can run a mag  but since you have to run solid core wires may have an issue with the radio, other than that it'll work just fine..
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 03:54:06 PM »
Looks like a cool project, you can run a mag  but since you have to run solid core wires may have an issue with the radio, other than that it'll work just fine..

Crap! I forgot about the RFI from a mag. I have a killer stereo waiting for this car so scratch that idea.
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2013, 04:45:31 PM »
Might check with one of them hot rod stereo places they may have a filter strong enough for that?, wouldn't hurt to ask what the heck..
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2013, 10:54:19 AM »
IF IT NEEDS A TRUNK I HAVE ONE SAME COLOR, BE WILLING TO MAKE A TRADE FOR THE V6 PARTS IF YOU WOULD LIKE!!
THINK ITS FUNNY ITS THE SAME TAN/BROWN COLOR!! CLEAN WILL TAKE PICS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2013, 11:10:06 AM »
That's actually a small window hatch out back. It's like the Holy Grail of early Pintos. What I really would like to find is the thin chrome molding that goes around the tail lights & across the hatch. I'm not in love with the monster bumper guards but I hope they will grow on me. I'm also in the hunt for '76 chrome headlight rings, extensions & hood chrome. Usually I like removing chrome & trim but for some crazy reason this car screams "ADD CHROME" when I look at it.   
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2013, 11:37:41 AM »
WILL CHECK BELIEVE I HAVE THE CHROME TRIM ON MY TRUNK LID!!
 
NOW AFTER LOOKING AGAIN! IT IS A HATCH WITH A SMALL WINDOW I HAVE SEEN 3 OF THEM IN MY LIFE!! GREAT FIND!!
 
AS FAR AS THE 76 CHROME AND EXTENSIONS FOR THE HEAD LIGHTS JUST SOLD THE COUPLE I DID HAVE ON EPAY, WISH I WOULD HAVE KNOWN WOULD HAVE HOOKED YA UP!
 
THE ONLY HOOD CHROME I HAVE IS THE FORD ON THE HOOD FOR A 71-75
 
IF YA NEED ANY TRIM AROUND THE SIDE WINDOWS OR DOOR TRIM LET ME KNOW, HAVE A COMPLETE SET I GOT FOR SPARE PARTS THAT I AM GOING TO SELL!!
 
TAKE CARE AND TALK SOON
 
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2013, 12:20:46 PM »
I have some chrome headlight bezels and extension pieces if you are interested.
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2013, 02:00:28 PM »
WILL CHECK BELIEVE I HAVE THE CHROME TRIM ON MY TRUNK LID!!
 
NOW AFTER LOOKING AGAIN! IT IS A HATCH WITH A SMALL WINDOW I HAVE SEEN 3 OF THEM IN MY LIFE!! GREAT FIND!!
 
TAKE CARE AND TALK SOON
 
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Cool, let me know if you happen to have it. I never saw a half hatch in person before this one, only pics. The 1st surprise I got was the scissors hatch prop in lieu of gas shocks. I had no idea it came that way.  Let me know when you are gonna be in the vicinity so we can hook up.
 
I have some chrome headlight bezels and extension pieces if you are interested.

Definitely interested. PM sent
 
A facebook friend gave me the idea for the extra chrome. I love it on my '76 wagon but hadn't considered how good it looks on a thin bumper car, especially a dark colored one. I'm leaning black....
 
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2013, 05:07:58 PM »
I know I will be in ohio In October, maybe sooner will keep you posted!1
 
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2013, 08:03:42 PM »
if you can please post a photo of the scissors hatch prop, I have never seen it.
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2013, 09:08:59 PM »
if you can please post a photo of the scissors hatch prop, I have never seen it.
Thanks
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I wont have mine home to take pics for a couple weeks but I found an ad that shows them. Amazing that I never noticed them before.
 
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2013, 07:04:26 AM »
got it!!!
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2013, 07:06:44 AM »
you are right about that front end with the chrome trim! that looks awsome!! kinda surprised they didnt do that from the factory with ford was back in the day with trim, my bobcats have tons of alum trim as well!!
 
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2013, 07:30:37 AM »
got it!!!

Cool! That's what I'm after. How are the side pieces? 
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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2013, 08:19:56 AM »
THE PIECES AROUND THE TAIL LIGHTS??
DONT HAVE THOSE IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT! SORRY
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2013, 09:31:38 AM »
THE PIECES AROUND THE TAIL LIGHTS??
DONT HAVE THOSE IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT! SORRY

Yep, but no biggie. I'll keep an eye out or maybe hit Fred up for the ends. I'm nowhere near ready to install any of those parts at this point.
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2013, 09:45:06 AM »
OK
WELL IF YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE LET ME KNOW!!
 
 
 
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2013, 09:32:26 PM »
One brake caliper & the new heater core arrived today. Still waiting on the other caliper & brake hoses. Also found an NOS master cylinder & it's on the way. I was right about early wheel cylinders being different & boy are they expensive. I guess I'll run the originals & not worry unless they start leaking. 
 
I started whipping my car trailer into shape so I can go fetch my new car but I may just rent a tow dolly & grab it in a couple weeks.
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2013, 05:58:44 PM »
Some more new parts arrived. Now I need to go get the car.
 

 

 
I'm getting some work done on my trailer between rain showers. Too bad I can't fit it in the garage.
 

 
After 25 years my deck boards were shot.
 

 
The fenders rusted out years ago but I bought new ones that I'm finally gonna install.
 

 
I also had 2 rotted crossmembers even though the rest of them are in great shape.
 

 
Hopefully I'll have it roadworthy in a couple weeks.
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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2013, 08:11:41 PM »
I've been busy finding parts & getting ready to bring the car home. Work picked up & brought work on my car trailer to a standstill so no clue when I'm gonna make this happen. I can't wait too much longer because I need the car running & driving by the end of September.
 

 
I found an NOS pair of Moog ES417R tie rod ends for $47 shipped. There are cheaper ones out there but I've NEVER had a Moog part fail in 30 years so I'll pay extra to get them if I find them. I already have new K8212 upper ball joints but the 71-73 only lowers are pricey so I'm gonna wait a bit to get them.
 

 
I found a set of NOS D1FZ-13200-A &  B front marker lenses for $36 shipped. I don't even know if I need them but that was too cheap to pass up.
 

 
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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2013, 09:11:57 PM »
When it comes to suspension parts MOOG is the only option, the cheap s*** is exactly what it is, cheap s***!....
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« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2013, 10:14:39 PM »
I have my wheels. I picked up these 13x6 last week in northern Michigan. They aren't perfect but I'd give them a 9 out of 10. The 205-60 tires are all like new.
 

 
Today I picked up this pair of 13x7's near my house with what looks like new 215-60 BFG tires that are date coded 1997.
 

 
That should give me the old school look I'm after. I love the deep dish rears.
 
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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2013, 10:34:23 PM »
So jelious of that find!! 2 set n BFg tires man what a find!!! Have a staggered set myself but need to be re chromed to be perfect !!!
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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2013, 11:21:10 PM »
The chrome on these rears is maybe a 7 1/2 & 2 of the fronts are close to a 9. The other 2 are 7 1/2 also. I've got $340 wrapped up in all 6 with near new rubber so no complaints. If it was gonna be a show car I'd spring for re-chroming but for a driver they will be perfect.
 
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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2013, 04:52:12 AM »
Sweet find ! 

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Re: "GHOST" My '71 half hatch
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2013, 08:29:48 AM »
need one tire for my set looking for a bfg 205 60 r13, one of them has a nice gash in the side wall. was that way when I got them.  the tires are just has hard to find as the rims are!   that was a great buy, 2 sets with tires and be under $350.00 you stole them!! take care!!
1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1978 mercury bobcat wagon 2.3l - soon to have a 88 tc drive line
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car