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T9 Good to Install for a Performance '72 122c.i./2.0?
PintoMan1:
--- Quote from: Henrius on November 18, 2019, 04:31:44 PM ---Where did you find that T-9? I have been looking for one for the longest time.
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me as well almost 10 years I've been looking!!
Wittsend:
I've noticed that we in Pinto-dom tend to talk about parts that are difficult, if not impossible to find (without mentioning that). And to someone who doesn't know, Id think they would assume the parts are readily available - when they are not.
Just recently it became know how difficult it is to find windshields. Then there are gear sets for the smaller 6-3/4" rear end. My own experience with Turbo Coupes is that I haven't seen one in a junk yard for well over 5 years. A Merkur..., it has probable been 10 years. After an absence of a number of years I did stumble upon four in a Pick A Part (again about 10 years ago) but the forklift was cleaning out the row as I was contemplating if there was anything I wanted. That was the last time I saw one. And this is in sunny So. Cal. where cars linger longer and should be more readily available.
Yes, there was a time when these cars were more available. In 2007 I'd see 3-5 Turbo Coupes and a Merkur every month when I went to Pick Your Parts 50% off sales. But it seemed within 6 months that diminished. A few years later they were a rare sighting. So, I hope I don't come across as scolding anyone (I'm not trying to) but I feel when we give out information that these parts exist we need to also mention the difficulty in finding them.
I've been searching for an 80-86 Jeep T-178 transmission (Toploader) for my Sunbeam Tiger for nearly 20 years. It has an every so slightly wider ratio than the wide ratio Toploader which today is a $1,200+ transmission. I was hoping to find one at Pick Your Part for $150. The Jeep people always want the granny gear T-176/T-177 transmissions and I thought it would be an easy find - NOPE.
Henrius:
This may totally impractical, but give it a thought. In Europe, particularly England, these 2 Liter cars were much more possible. I have always dreamed of a David Vizard reworked head on my engine. How practical would it be to import something from Europe like a cylinder head or a rebuilt T-9 transmission? How would it be possible to ship?
Wittsend:
I surely understand stepping up to the the challenge. And it is nice to 'do something different.' Unfortunately sometimes the cost vs the return on that cost is hard to justify. While still not available in great numbers there is the T-5 from the 2.3 Fords. You would be more likely to find that. Hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the 2.0 has two sets of upper bolt holes and the 2.3/T-5 bellhousing will bolt on? It does require more modifications though.
You also have to weight if in everyday driving the 2.0 and a 5 speed are a good match. Some here have said no. The 2.0 when it makes more power tends to make it in the higher RPM range. On a race track where you are moving at speed that is OK but in everyday driving it might be a hindrance.
At this point I think the Duratec engine (however one can make it fit - if it will fit) is the future. If I was younger and more ambitious I think I'd try and tackle that. If anyone is familiar with Urchfab on You Tube he adapted a Ford E105 to a Miata unibody substructure.
65ShelbyClone:
At this point I wouldn't even be committed to a Ford engine.
The 2.3 is old to the point that a lot of mass appeal and availability has waned, I think to Wittsend's point. Fancy parts are still available new, but only from select few vendors and certainly not low prices. That was always the 2.3T's appeal; it was cheap to make fast.
I think I last stumbled on a CL listing for a T9 five years ago. It was quite ugly and they wanted a bunch of money with no indication of condition.
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