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my t5 conversion
« on: November 14, 2012, 12:24:13 AM »
well i finished my 5 speed conversion on my 74 pinto wagon after my automatic started to go south. it took 5 days.made several custom peices for it. the last was the dog bone on the trans fork. it started to seperate and i was not going to pay 25 or more dollars for a 2 inch cable. bought my parts at all metals for a total sum of 87 cents.  one 1/4 inch dia grade 8 bolt and 3 nuts.now i need to find a shifter cover from a late model ford that will properly cover my shifter. otherwise glad its over. next is to rebuild my front suspension from the parts i bought from speedway motors.im glad i got that severance pay when the company i worked for went belly up.if anyone wants some answers ill give you my two cents what i went thru to do it.harold

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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2013, 10:17:29 AM »
I do I have a 74 wagon with a 4 speed in it and want to put in a t5 what am I looking at hard or simple ?? Thanks

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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2013, 10:16:41 PM »
well its simple enough if you use the parts from a 87 to 93 ford mustang 2.3 t5 and related parts.i used the drive shaft from my 93 ford mustang i scraped. front ujoint is 93 ford mustang and rear ujoint from ford pinto/mustang 2 .you will have to use the trans mount and slot the pinto crossmember and turn crossmember around.as for starter i prefer the older ones from from 83 to 87 before ford went to the mini torq starter.you will have to trim the shifter hole a inch and half so the shifter will come completely thru.. also if you use the mustang  drive shaft, you will have to put it into the trans before you raise the rear cross member into place due to the fact that the harmonic damper on the yoke will not allow you to do so otherwise. unless you have a front input shaft with out the damper.you will have to use the speedo cable from ford pinto with manual trans due to the fact that the speedo gear on said cable has to use the short nose gear, if there are any more questions please send me a note and ill answer as best i can.the trans swap has been great.wished my card would do better but that will change soon enough lol.

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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2013, 01:24:21 PM »
well i finished my 5 speed conversion on my 74 pinto wagon after my automatic started to go south. it took 5 days.made several custom peices for it. the last was the dog bone on the trans fork. it started to seperate and i was not going to pay 25 or more dollars for a 2 inch cable. bought my parts at all metals for a total sum of 87 cents.  one 1/4 inch dia grade 8 bolt and 3 nuts.now i need to find a shifter cover from a late model ford that will properly cover my shifter. otherwise glad its over. next is to rebuild my front suspension from the parts i bought from speedway motors.im glad i got that severance pay when the company i worked for went belly up.if anyone wants some answers ill give you my two cents what i went thru to do it.harold



Is you engine a 2.0 or 2.3? I read a restoration project where the guy mounted up a T5 to a 2.3 with little problem except shortening the driveshaft and moving the stick-shift position an inch of so rearward.

I have heard the 2.0 (which I have) is a little harder.

Sure would like a 5 speed to bring down the revs of my upgraded engine.
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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2013, 10:27:46 PM »
Henrius have you looked at the T-9 from the XR4ti, it's the same transmission etc Ford of Europe just added the Over Drive ( 5th gear). So in order to make it work you would need to keep your 2.0 bellhousing and add the T-9. I think you might have to shorten your drive shaft but not change anything else... The clutch and flywheel should be the same. Hell it should just bolt up.

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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2013, 09:01:50 PM »
Cromcru any pictures of what you have done IE the dogbone replacement etc....How did you hook up your speedo gear etc.

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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2013, 11:56:16 PM »
sorry no pics of my conversion. i used grade 8 bolt for the dog bone conversion. works great. had to use manual speedo cable from a 4 speed trans. use short nose speedo gear.  long nose speedo gear will not seat fully into trans.
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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2013, 09:30:21 PM »
Cool , what about the backup and neutral switch any issues or did you just use your old harness?

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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2013, 12:16:34 AM »
i have to use the t5 plug on a pinto backup manual wiring harness. to make back up lights work.the t5 has a larger backup light switch then the pinto one. unless someone has found a way to mate the pinto backup switch into the t5. please chime in if you have .
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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2013, 01:00:48 PM »
Okay that's what I need to know....Off to the wrecking yard tomorrow...

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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2013, 04:28:26 PM »
Good help here, and useful for my upcoming swap.

What did you use for the yoke on the end of the transmission?
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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2013, 11:23:32 PM »
i used my mustang drive shaft and yoke. mustang front ujoint. and 75 mustang 2 rear ujoint.
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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2013, 11:58:42 AM »
Thanks!

Do you by any chance have a picture of the T5 shifter coming up through the floor with no boot on it? I'm trying to get a feel for where it will be and what kind of shifter to use.
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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2013, 02:14:47 PM »
http://www.joe-escobar.com/pinto.html
 
Some excellent pix in Joe's write up
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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2013, 02:25:01 PM »
That's a nice write up.
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2013, 03:26:35 PM »
That's a nice write up.

Yeah, Joe took some great pix of his swap.
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2013, 07:30:57 PM »
And very helpful since it's the same year as mine.
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2013, 11:09:41 PM »
With that set up what clutch cable is used ??

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Re: my t5 conversion
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2013, 11:47:45 PM »
my pinto is a 74 so im using a 74 pinto clutch cable and pedal assembly.
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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2013, 09:16:27 PM »
I have a 74 with a 4 speed in it I was asking what cable was used a tbird or pinto

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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2013, 12:05:27 AM »
That was the stock Pinto cable in the write up
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2013, 09:16:53 PM »
Hey Joe Bone You have impressed an old man who has done this
(crap) modifications for years. Keep up the good work. It was a
pleasure to roll with you in the 1911 Pinto Stampede.
I hope we will meet again!  Postalpony
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