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windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« on: May 09, 2012, 10:13:03 AM »
Hi, Is there any difference between a 1976 pinto windshield and a 1980 one ? I have a replica car designed for a pinto windshield front and back, the company is out of business and I dont know what model it was based on, I was going to order a window gasket for a 1976 just to see.
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 10:30:54 AM »
yes there is a difference, 78 and previous required a gasket ffor the Pinto and is smaller than the 79 and 80 that was a glue in type
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 02:29:27 PM »
Brian is pretty much correct, but in the middle of 1978 they started using the glue in smaller windshields
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 02:53:47 PM »
Quote from: dave1987 on May 09, 2012, 02:29:27 PM
Brian is pretty much correct, but in the middle of 1978 they started using the glue in smaller windshields

middle of 78 is when the 79's were being built at the assembley plants. when asking "glass guys" for a windshield for a 1978 Pinto they (glass guys) refer to build date and here's where it gets confusing. there are only 2 different windshields for the Pinto and 79 and 80 is larger than previous years because the gasket wasn't used.

I would "guess" since the question of a replacement windshield for a non-pinto kit/replica and if a gasket was used previously it would be the early windshield that is needed since the later (79-80) is bigger than the early one. Would be nice to know what "replica" this is for, with that info I am sure there is someplace to find the correct answer on what will fit this particular application even if the company building them is no longer in business
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 04:10:40 PM »
I swear that every time this topic comes up, more and more useful info is given! +1 for you Brian!
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 10:49:55 PM »
I learned the hard way... tried to order a 78 windshield for one of mine... it was a confusing mess for the glass shop till I figured it out and had to explain it to the gal he had working for him ordering glass. In the end I'm not sure she understood and think I just told her to order for a 77 :)
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 04:03:07 AM »
Thanks for all your replies, i'll attach a picture of the replica, I believe it is a karma kit car based on a ferrai dino. any chance someone can give me the measurements of both windshields then I might be able to match it?
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 04:05:22 AM »
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 09:35:36 AM »
I don't have one to measure, a quick look on Google and I think I appriciate you delima....
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 07:58:35 PM »
it uses a rubber, i would bet heavily on the early model since glued glass and fiberglass bodies will blow up windows plus they probably used an off the shelf gasket which the later glass doesn't have available.

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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2012, 07:46:16 AM »
Thanks, I think i'll order a rubber gasket and see how it fits, any idea the best place to get one JC's?
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2012, 07:52:27 AM »
when it comes to rubber go with steele rubber products!!!
 
 
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2012, 11:00:07 AM »
You wouldn't happen to be from Nova Scotia with that handle would you? I am originally and was just wondering? Brian 918-916-2255 (McAlester, Oklahoma/Windsor, Nova Scotia :) )
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2012, 01:26:31 PM »
A bit further east, Hawick in the Scottish Borders, I think we share the name and the weather!
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2014, 10:12:12 PM »
is it posible the windshield opening is the same regardless of size.maybe put a glue in windshield in an older pinto and vice-versa.as longg as you install accordingly.


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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2014, 06:43:36 AM »
I suspect you are right about the opening size being the same.  One problem is with the interior trim.  In early models the rubber gasket provided a finished appearance to the interior and held in the head liner.  The windshield glue in models had an extra small strip of metal welded to the interior of windshield opening flange.  This strip of metal holds a plastic trim piece which provides an interior finished appearance and covers up the edge of the head liner glue joint.  Not sure if the rubber gasket would fit properly over the window flange with this extra strip of metal there.  Maybe the extra strip of metal could be flattened or removed.

Not having tried this, there may be other difficulties and solutions.
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Re: windshield, any difference 76-1980?
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2014, 09:46:47 AM »
For sure you can put a rubber gasketed shield in an '80 car that had one glued previously, BTDT. You have to carefully shim shield to center the overlap all ways. I used regular tarred windshield rope to seal it and then filled the edges with Home Depot roofing tar patch cement. Been 100% leakfree for some 20 years. Not having the gasket lets the shield sit lower down in the notch, that results in the outside trim having a bit more space between trim and glass but not noticeable unless you look for it.

I went looking for the rubber gasket shield after no one at the yards could get a glued one out without cracking/breaking it.
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