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Title: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: firepinto on January 19, 2023, 06:54:08 AM
I started up a design for new Mustang II engine mounts that are intended to fit just as the original factory units.  More info to come, for now you can check out this pic of my initial start:

https://odysee.com/@firepinto:4/MII-Mount:c
Title: Re: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: firepinto on January 19, 2023, 06:56:20 AM
I think I probably posted this in the wrong section.  :o
Title: Re: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: Reeves1 on January 19, 2023, 10:35:01 AM
Right one I think.

The Mll (rubber) I have , have a factory pin through them.
I'll see if I have a pic. I also have the part number(s).....

(https://i.imgur.com/KcO3dq6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kROV7bR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cgpXUxD.jpg)

Part number

D5ZA-6038-BD
  KF             7
Title: Re: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: firepinto on January 21, 2023, 09:34:12 PM
Nice, I haven't seen what the rubber looks like yet. lol

What I'm not sure of yet, is if the driver side and passenger side are true mirrored designs of each other.  I know the engine side of the rubber is, but the body side bracket of the rubber looks like they are offset about 1/4" to 3/8".  It's hard to tell since my mounts have already been stripped of the rubber and prepared for the rebuild kit.  I figure I will have to make a jig to confirm those dimensions before I get too far.  I do have access to a V8 MII, except its buried in snow, and behind a few other cars.  Someone ripped that V8 all apart, so its just the block in the engine bay.  It may be the test mule for the FP engine mounts. lol


Some refinement I did today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpsxRoD-VNQ
Title: Re: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: Reeves1 on January 22, 2023, 08:53:33 AM
Problem with original Mll mounts are they are off set.
I ALWAYS center the engine / trans.

I forget how much , but it is well over an inch. (I posted it someplace)

I gave this set away knowing I'd never use them & do not approve of them.

(https://i.imgur.com/YG5aIui.jpg)
Title: Re: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: firepinto on January 23, 2023, 01:55:56 PM
Does the driver side manifold still clear the steering shaft when the engine is centered?
Title: Re: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: Reeves1 on January 24, 2023, 10:20:26 AM
I have never used manifolds. Always Headers.
Title: Re: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: PintoTim2 on March 05, 2023, 12:31:40 PM
Big R Motorsports has mounts listed for putting a V8 in a Pinto.  Never tried them, I have a V6 turbo and I4 turbo (soon…) in my Pintos.  Big R has lots of 2.3 turbo stuff, thats how I found the v8 mounts there,  the M-II mount rebuild kits are $100 or more these days (replaces the deteriorated rubber).   
Title: Re: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: PintoTim2 on March 06, 2023, 07:17:41 AM
Just checked classic auto reproductions and the mount rebuild kits are still $105.  I got a set for one of my M-IIs a while back.   Have a car with them already installed and it isnt harsh at all for engine vibrations (stock rebuild on the engine). 
Title: Re: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: firepinto on March 15, 2023, 08:47:46 PM
I checked out big r, those mounts look very adjustable.  The top of the energy suspension bushing seems to take more space away from the header area than stock mounts.


The mounts I'm developing will be a direct replacement to stock MII engine mounts and would still work with stock V8 frame mounts.  The polyurethane rubber is cast into the mounts, and can be different levels of stiffness.  My end goal is drag and drive cars, so I'd like to have the option to make them almost solid mounts, while still able to cast stock feeling versions.  The Pinto frame mounts I want to make for V8 probably will not have all the adjustment slots.  Slots just introduce weak points.  I may make two versions, one set putting the v8 in the stock 2.3L bell housing position, and one with the 1" set back everyone says to do.  Each set would still work with stock MII engine mounts.  Personally I want to be able to remove the transmission with out pulling the engine.  So I want firewall space. 


Once Spring finally breaks through the snow around here, things will be happing faster for me. lol
Title: Re: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: PintoTim2 on April 22, 2023, 02:52:01 PM
For info, classic auto reproductions just released reproduction V8 Mustang II mounts.  Another option.   
Title: Re: Next Generation Mustang II V8 Engine Mounts
Post by: firepinto on April 24, 2023, 05:07:22 PM
Interesting, they would look nice on something trying to restore to stock looking.  They look to be assembled the same way as their rebuild kit.  The issue is the bolt that they use to hold it all together is not rubber isolated under the nut.  The factory units seem to use a large pin with a rubber washer under it.  Vibrations can still transfer through the bolt, most likely on the driver side under heavy load.