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I came across a 1971 Ford Pinto with an early UK engine in one of the auction listings. It looked really nice, and appears to be well-cared for as part of the well-known Pugly's collection. Hopefully one of you would be interested bidding on it, to ensure it goes to a good home!  I am not in the position to make a bid, as I am still working on my Pandemic project!

https://worldwideauctioneers.com/listings/enthusiast-auction-2021/1971-ford-pinto-coupe/

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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2021, 03:24:33 PM »
Looks like a nice one!


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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2021, 06:24:59 PM »
Isn't it interesting how the front seats seldom get photographed. How gullible do they think we are? I guess we are to assume they are beautiful.
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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2021, 10:17:47 PM »
What a nice Pinto! That would look good rolling in with the Stampede! The lowly Pinto was a huge success and how many other sub-compacts of the era have such a huge following today? Vega? Not hardly. The Pinto had great styling, suspension, tight steering, low and wide like an import sports car and they were a blast to drive! And it was an American built Ford! The 1.6 and the 2.0 were race proven engines over seas and you could rev the daylights out of them without a whimper. The Chevy purists were stuck with the Vega with the "weight saving all aluminum engine of the future" that 15,000 miles in were burning more oil than gas!  ;D 
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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2021, 02:28:16 PM »
I always thought that the designer of the Pinto was Robert Eidschun.
That's what I read on the internet.



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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2021, 03:35:02 PM »
Well now I've spent about an hour reading up on the design of the Pinto.  Eidschun's son maintains that he recalls his father designing the pinto in the basement of their Michigan home and he has the original sketches to prove it. IF this is correct, other designers may have been involved in overseeing the design process and/or submitted design ideas that were later rejected.  At any rate, regardless of what is true and correct, owning a pinto autographed by Exner Jr. would be awesome! I guess he is now 87 years of age.

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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2021, 03:43:39 PM »
Well now I've spent about an hour reading up on the design of the Pinto.  Eidschun's son maintains that he recalls his father designing the pinto in the basement of their Michigan home and he has the original sketches to prove it. IF this is correct, other designers may have been involved in overseeing the design process and/or submitted design ideas that were later rejected.  At any rate, regardless of what is true and correct, owning a pinto autographed by Exner Jr. would be awesome! I guess he is now 87 years of age.

I've spent a little time doing the exact same thing and like you, came up with Robert Eidschun.  I did however, learn that Exner Jr. was also working for Ford at the time and in his retirement has claimed he designed the Pinto despite lack of proof.  So the claims of an Exner design are those of Junior, not his famous father and have not been substantiated.  His willingness to sign the Pinto in question might simply have been a ploy to advance his version of the story.  Or at his advanced age, maybe he is simply confused.

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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2021, 05:31:52 PM »
Exactly! You and I have been reading the same articles.
Eidschun's my man! How I so admire the Pinto design. My first car 50 years ago. I'm forever grateful to my Dad who basically took me to the auto dealer and told me this was to be my first car. He had apparently been looking and researching and it was his decision. What did I know about cars? I was just a 21 year old nursing school graduate who needed wheels. Boy would I love to go back in time and relive that day!





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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2021, 10:06:14 PM »
Exactly! You and I have been reading the same articles.
Eidschun's my man! How I so admire the Pinto design. My first car 50 years ago. I'm forever grateful to my Dad who basically took me to the auto dealer and told me this was to be my first car. He had apparently been looking and researching and it was his decision. What did I know about cars? I was just a 21 year old nursing school graduate who needed wheels. Boy would I love to go back in time and relive that day!

My dad was instrumental in the purchase of my first car too (a brand new 1974 Pinto Runabout) when I was only sixteen. I had been saving every cent I could scrape together for most of my life in anticipation of the day I got my driver's license.  I had enough to purchase a decent used car but when the time came, my dad informed me I was going to purchase something new or nothing at all; he didn't want me latching onto "someone else's problem."  Having grown up in a Ford household, and the Pinto being the most inexpensive Ford I could buy, there wasn't a lot of discussion about what my first car would be.  I was expected to pay for it but he did help out with me getting it financed.  After making a decent down payment, I ended up with a 36-month payment plan that cost me $76 per month for a nicely equipped Runabout.  Completely doable for even a high school student with an after school job.  The biggest "plus" to buying new was that I got to order the car to my specifications! 

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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2021, 10:32:31 AM »
    It is interesting how similar some of our stories are. My brother is two years older than me. He had three used lemons before it was my turn to buy. Dad took me to the Ford dealer to buy their cheapest new car. I did not know what a Pinto was I don't think he did either.
     We were the poor people in the rich neighborhood. My friends were getting mustangs, and vets. I can't tell you how many wrecked (daddy bought) cars I saw.
    I learned responsibility with my cheep car. My first payment was $76 as well. I worked hard for my $76. If I did not take care of my car, there would not be another one.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2021, 11:25:43 AM »
    It is interesting how similar some of our stories are. My brother is two years older than me. He had three used lemons before it was my turn to buy. Dad took me to the Ford dealer to buy their cheapest new car. I did not know what a Pinto was I don't think he did either.
     We were the poor people in the rich neighborhood. My friends were getting mustangs, and vets. I can't tell you how many wrecked (daddy bought) cars I saw.
    I learned responsibility with my cheep car. My first payment was $76 as well. I worked hard for my $76. If I did not take care of my car, there would not be another one.
Bill

I understand completely!  The friend I ran around with most in high school drove a bright yellow Corvette... that is, when he wasn't tooling around in his parents' red Cadillac Eldorado convertible.  Oh well!

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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2021, 11:40:53 AM »
Wow! My first car was a 1968 Datsun 510 station wagon. It was only 7 years old in 1975 but looked more like 30 years old and already had 152,000 miles on it. It had  been (cheaply) repainted, the engine I nearly tripped over as parts of it were scattered around the guys yard. Without the engine installed the guy trailered it to my house. He rolled it off the trailer and then stated that one of the four wheels was his spare tire and removed it. As he drove away there sat my "first car," engineless, squatting on three wheels and like a woman who lived a hard life "old before her time." That's what $200 bought back in 1975. I actually got the engine back together and even repainted the car. But it was "well worn" and I advanced to a '64 Falcon 260 within  year. I actually drove that car home - and to my first semester of college before I rebuilt the engine and swapped the 2 speed auto for a C-4 over Christmas and Easter breaks.

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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2021, 11:50:52 AM »
The used car my dad nixed was a baby blue 1963 Chrysler 300 that a neighbor owned.  I could have bought it for $800 and it really was a nice car, regardless of my dad's opinion.

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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2021, 09:05:19 AM »
Yup, we were all about the same age, and the Pinto was a viable option for many people.  My first car was a 1979 Ford Pinto Wagon (selected due to my frequent travels between home and college) with 2.3 liter engine, manual tranny, optional medium red glow paint, red cloth high-back seat interior with the exterior décor group. It was a little over an year old, when I purchased it from my father's colleague at Hancock Field AFB in Syracuse as he inherited his mother's larger Ford Wagon. I am unable to recall what I had paid for it, but it was affordable enough that I did not have to take a loan, but used my savings. I was one of those lucky kids who had a job with Budget rent A Car at Syracuse airport. An awesome job as I was a car-nut! I do have pictures of the car, and one of the pictures was at work with a ton of rental cars parked in the background. Mostly Marquis and Zephyrs. Once I figure out how to reduce the size of the pictures so it can be attached, I will be sure to post them.

Before I brought my pandemic project, the 1980 Pinto Squire Wagon, I searched for almost two years to find one exactly like mine, but it was nowhere to be found due to the rarity of the optional color.  I did find a brown one equipped the same and considered to have it redone like mine, but couldn't come to an agreement with the seller's asking price...so I found my 1980 Squire Wagon which was too nice to convert it to mimic my first car, so that's how I ended up where I am now...chucklin g.

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Re: Ford Pinto being Auctioned from the famous Pugley's collection
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2021, 11:35:26 AM »
If you are using Windows just open the picture, then open the Snipping Tool. Drag the "frame" over the picture then click File, Save As. Save to a folder you will remember or create one for Pinto Pictures. The snipping tool automatically reduces the file size to a very appropriate 25kb (smaller image) to about 125 kb (larger image) depending on the original size. I presume you know how to post pictures here?