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Would you be willing to subscribe to a magazine dedicated to Pinto/Bobcat history/restoration/preservation if such a magazine were published?

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« on: July 05, 2008, 09:24:59 AM »
Scott asked me to post this poll to gauge interest in publishing a magazine dedicated to the history, preservation and restoration of the Ford Pinto and Mercury Bobcat. Minimum run on a real magazine is going to be 200 units, and at this point in time shelf space in a book store is not a guarantee by any means. Subscriptions will be what drives the boat. I will look at advertisers, though at this point I have not contacted any. If you have suggestions or thoughts on the idea, please PM me or post them in this thread. Another factor in this decision will be material contributed for publication, such as how-to's, car and owner profiles and things of that sort. If you ever wanted a shot at showing your stuff to the Pinto world, this is it. Thanks for your time.

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Re: Pinto Magazine
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2008, 09:33:59 AM »
sounds like i good idea to me.
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 09:37:54 AM »
Hello:

My vote is yes, I would support it.   ;D

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Re: Pinto Magazine
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 12:35:13 PM »
Excellect Idea...  Matt has the full support of FordPinto.com.
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Re: Pinto Magazine
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 01:54:41 PM »
FlyerPinto:

  Interestingly, and no joke - this idea went through my mind this week. There is a certain need for a publication of this type. My personal opinion is that the Pinto "field is ripe" for harvesting, and this would be a substantial benchmark towards establishing recognition of these vehicles. As a former subscriber to Gameroom magazine (also, a low circulation pub), as a pinball hobbyist I was always interested in hearing stories of fellow enthusiasts and their efforts towards restoration.

  Being heavily involved in both pinball for the last 10 years, and model railroading many years before that, I drove a personal effort towards suppoting both hobbies in printed matter and personal "appearances".  I am a published author of 10 articles concerning model trains between the years 1995 and 1998, in Model Railroader, and Mainline Modeler magazines. These articles contained substantial information including history, photographs, AutoCAD drawings, and detailed text of my efforts.

 In addition, I began putting together a book on the subject of pinball (which has been my hobby for the past ten years), though I never got it off the ground. That was a real labor of love which, well, I found little time for, though I have lots of text written. I have also given a number of public seminars at pinball shows, talking about cabinet and playfield restoration, replete with examples of my work.

  Since I now have a car and am in the process of learning a great deal about these automobiles (including, taking one apart and restoring it  ;)), I guess what I am trying to say is:

1) I am ALL for this effort
2) I would happily be a contributing author
3) I will support the effort any way I can

I hope this works out, and if there is anything I can do, please let me know. Feel free to contact me direct at any time, thanks!

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 02:28:43 PM »
I'm all for it but what would be the run(bi-monthly, monthly, ect) and the cost to us?

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 03:19:55 PM »
pbean09

Regarding the run and the cost, I don't have firm numbers to work with other than to say I need a run of 200 copies, which, in terms of printing cost alone, will be just over $5 per copy. That does not include any layout work, fees or postage, or any other surprise costs I am unaware of at this point in time. My hope was to do semi-monthly for a total of 6 issues per year as a starting point. If there are outside contributors, such as Chris from the prior post, who can add content, as in text, photos etc, then it may be possible to do more issues. If I'm flying solo for all content, then it will be six issues to start for the first year. I currently subscribe to Auto Restorer, a semi-monthly magazine that charges $7.50 per copy for 32 pages. I would like to be below that cost. It will depend on what, if any advertising is sold, and the number of issues printed. Big price breaks come in at 1000 copies and up. Right now I'm not even thinking of a number that large.

Chris,

I would welcome any help, suggestions and contributions from long before day one. Lets try to get in touch in the next week or so and see what we can come up with.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2008, 04:03:38 PM »
Growing up with Dan Esslinger I can add heavily to the early Pinto engine modifications, Pinto dune buggys, Turbo Pintos etc. It would be great to have some chapters on this type of stuff.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2008, 05:47:24 PM »
There is a place for all Pintos and modifications. When the time comes, if you will put some stuff together on different topics such as you mentioned, I will gladly include them. My wit and wisdom only go so far, after that, I need help!
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 07:03:47 PM »
Thanks, I will write some copy and send it to you.
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2008, 08:45:44 PM »
FlyerPinto:

  I am sending you an email through the system, it will have my phone contact and email info as well. Let's get together on this, thanks for considering it.

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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2008, 03:19:10 AM »
im currently putting a parts catalog together i would love to pass it on to u for this run. this is in a long list of projects and had a big set back with the loss of my old computer but i do remember most of it and can start it back up. there is a thread on it.

this is WAY cool! but in order to speed it up u may post this on yahoo pinto in order to get the 200+
i would be glad to do so if requested

ps dose any one have a nos parts list to build a pinto this would speed up my work i may need to put this in another thread but if i could get a list of every part on a pinto i could tell u where to get it then follow with the after market stuff
i think that a pinto magazine would be a grate to publish it in because as the year go by it can be updated
there is also the stuff that some of or member sell they could sell through the mag and have much better sales and better return on there hard work   
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Re: Pinto Magazine
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2008, 06:37:23 AM »
Chris,

I'll be in touch, hopefully yet this week. Lets see what we can do.

Pintonut,

Great idea about the catalog and Yahoo pinto, hadn't thought of that. Keep plugging and we can get it done.
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Re: Pinto Magazine
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2008, 08:06:37 AM »
This is a little spooky because I too was thinking that there needs to be a Pinto magazine.  As for cost, we have to understand that this is a small niche market so expect to pay a little more. 

Let me know if I can help in any way, I have a lot of pictures of my project and maybe it might help.  Also I am a writer by profession [ really : )]. My car is projects "Project Shurtagul". 

One final thought is that this mag needs to inclusive of all Pintos regardless of what you have done or are doing to them not just restoration.

best of luck and I will be a subscriber cause my Pinto is not going anwhere but with me.

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Re: Pinto Magazine
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2008, 02:08:25 PM »
hellfirejim,

See, all these great minds are thinking alike...and we all own the same cars...it is spooky! I agree with you, all Pintos are fair game for this, and any expertise anyone can bring to the table is more than welcome. Projects would be wonderful, especially if you can explain so someone else, who may have little if any experience, can understand the process. Photos are a bonus, of course, but aren't entirely necessary, depending on what you're talking about. Anyone with writing experience is a welcome addition to the fold as well. As more info comes about I will be posting it, so keep an eye out. I'll probably be e-mailing a lot of folks in the next week or two to see what we can put together, and I'll add your name to the list. Thanks!
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Re: Pinto Magazine
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2008, 03:04:36 PM »
I have some experience with writing articles for the Gateway Hotwheelers club newsletter. I am by no means a professional, I would be glad to contribute to a Pinto specific magazine. Muscle Mustangs and Fords recently combined with Modified Mustangs to make one magazine. This took away the vintage feel of the former magazine and diluted the content. You may be in a good position to capture some of that audience turned off by all of the late model content that is now in the new magazine.

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Re: Pinto Magazine
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2008, 03:33:59 PM »
The information that can be shared is almost endless. What's great about a Pinto Magazine is you don't have to wait for the "big boys" (major car mags) to even consider your car. If you have something, you'll probably get in!! Here's but a few possibilities:

Features of cars (and this could be rotated):
 > Original
 > Restored original
 > Restored modified
 > Race cars
 > Derby cars
 > Custom
 
@Random photos of cars anywhere (fields, junkyards, city streets)

@Technical articles (how-to's) on just about anything - like - how many options were there for A/C setups, what equipment was used, how was it adapted into the car interior (I say this because I have found THREE in my short involvement)

@A "Historical Corner" where facts about the cars can be shared (VINS, colors, options, production numbers, etc.)

@Vintage photos (where people can share photos of when they or their families had these cars back in the day)

@Unique tidbits (example - movies with Pintos, oddities found in cars, etc.)

@Special articles (like, for example, someone actually makes an effort to contact Caroll (sp) Shelby/his agent and gets an interview to talk about his Pinto)...or....findi ng other people in the industry who had a unique role and would like to share their experience and memories (engineers, auto dealers, etc.)

@Classified ads (for a fee, helps pay for publication)

@Advertisements (for a fee, helps pay for publication)

@Calendar with Pinto shows

@Listings of past publications with Pinto related articles

...that's just a few. I am sure I have missed many.

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2008, 04:26:13 PM »
All good ideas, keep thinking it through. I'm working on my end, and hope to be contacting Ford shortly for some other information. Not only will this be good for our club, I think it will be fun as well. I'm headed to the Ohio Get Together this weekend and will be taking my 35mm with me to get photos. Don't have a digital...I'm sensing a pattern here...
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2008, 04:59:00 PM »
Man, no criticism here - I love the convenience of a digital camera but I REALLY miss my 35MM (it has a lot of light leakage on the shutter). Back in the day, I used it a LOT...good luck!!

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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2008, 09:02:03 AM »
I had a thought for a section maybe called Pinto's on the Run.  this would be picturs of Pinto's taken by subscribers.  Doesn't need to be a lot of detail just a good clean picture and where it was taken.

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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2008, 10:49:42 AM »
Sounds like a great idea to me. I'm off to the Ohio Mini-Meet here in an hour or so. As such I won't be checking much online, but I'll be getting back to folks soon.  The Purple Pinto is about to ride again!
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2008, 02:24:57 PM »
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  Been a week now - how was your trip? Hope it all went well. I'd like to get the ball rolling again, please contact me sometime, thanks!

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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2008, 09:24:18 AM »
Any idea on what the ads would cost?
The normal classifieds and the company/support ads...


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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2008, 11:48:43 AM »
yah im working on a parts list from the supplier i know.   but may need to devote a hole day to it shortly
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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2008, 05:00:51 PM »
An interesting thought, but how about getting with some of the other 'misfits' of the FOMOCO world?  Mustang IIs, Mavericks/Comets, Granadas/Monarchs, etc?  Maybe even Edsels??  There is always strength in numbers, the more, the stronger...
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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2008, 02:21:17 AM »
And don't forget the lowly 1980-1982 Thunderbirds.  A friend of mine owns two and they are IMPOSSIBLE to find parts for!!!
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Re: Pinto Magazine
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2008, 12:55:25 PM »
FlyerPinto (and everyone else who cares):

  I have actually started penning my first article for the Pinto Magazine. It's going to regard reproducing plastic parts from urethane (specifically, for my purpose and others interested, the dealer-installed A/C dash bezel - mine is badly warped and cracked).

I really want to get this effort going (Pinto Magazine), otherwise I would ask the admins if they think a "how-to" section would be appropriate (that is, an area to deposit instructional articles on various topics). If you look at the "www.maverick.t o" web site, they have a depository for technical articles, which I think we could all benefit from.

That said, I'M IN. Anyone? can we start this effort? I am no publisher, but I am a writer....

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« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2008, 06:02:25 AM »
I'm getting my goodies together as fast as I can; I've just been a little busy lately. Let's all talk one way or another this week and see what we can do to get started.
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« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2008, 09:56:41 AM »
Hey FlyerPinto:

  If you want to provide a phone number via private message, do so, I would be happy to phone you.

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