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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #360 on: October 26, 2015, 05:57:11 PM »
Finally getting consistent code 11. It's running much smoother, and I'll bet it gets better mpg. Now I'm thinking about a manual boost control valve again.
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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #361 on: October 26, 2015, 06:36:41 PM »
I'm, not exactly sure what the code 75 tests, but in the testing process you are suppose to tap the brake pedal.  I think there is also a steering test where you move the wheel???  I never heard anyone say it was an issue in a swap.  The code 34 EGR I'm guessing momentarily triggers the EGR to open and looks for the mixture ratio to change. I'd think it serves two purposes. One it let the ECU know the electric/vacuum circuit is working and two, it lets the tester know if the EGR might be clogged.  Again, I never heard of EGR (other than leaking) being a problem in these swaps. When I removed mine I saw no difference in function though the removal certainly made the looks under the hood improve.

I'd also assume you were not getting a code 11 without the system seeing the coolant temp when the ECU went through its internal check list.  My recollection from all my searches at NATO was that a miss (stumble) at idle seems to be very common and often not resolved.  Anyway, it is good to see you are moving in the right direction.

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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #362 on: October 26, 2015, 06:43:12 PM »
Before I replaced the ect, it was causing a few codes. But now I only get code 11(allegedly all good), and 25 (no knock detected during wot). I wanted to make the ecu as happy as possible... before causing other codes!
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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #363 on: October 26, 2015, 10:40:28 PM »
25 Knock sensor not tested (ignore if not pinging) – KS

"Testing would involve simulating operating conditions by connecting a timing light, starting the engine and tapping the manifold next to the Knock Sensor with a hammer. You should observe the timing retard momentarily."  From my understanding timing is pulled if the sensor is not functioning. This was general Ford information. I'm not sure how it applies to the T/C engine with an LA-3.

74 Was brake depressed after engine ID was received ?  Brake On Off (BOO) signal open or short to ground – BOO

After a bit of searching it seems the primary purpose of the BOO is for an Automatic to release the converter lock-up. It may have other applications (cruise control release, testing brake bulbs, etc.)  These latter seem more speculation than having proof.

Being you are running a T-5 I'd think the 74 Boo code seems irrelevant.

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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #364 on: October 27, 2015, 09:21:07 AM »
Interesting. My book says 25 is "no knock detected during test". 
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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #365 on: October 28, 2015, 12:16:02 PM »
I'm not sure what the thing is about the full throttle test and the knock sensor. I do know it is to check the sweep of the TPS. Does that induce knock???  As stated the supposed KOER test is to (at some undetermined point) hit the intake manifold with a hammer to induce a frequency the knock sensor sees as engine knock. As stated you can also use the use the timing light and hammer whack to see if it is functioning (regardless of the testing in KOER).

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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #366 on: October 28, 2015, 12:28:49 PM »
If I'm understanding the code definitions correctly, I think the 25 means the test was performed and there were no knocks to be detected during the test. If I don't do the wot test when prompted to, I get another code that says I didn't perform it correctly. It feels really smooth, and the response is great. I think it's about ready to mess with.
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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #367 on: October 29, 2015, 11:06:12 AM »
Do any of you use an adjustable fpr? I'm looking at getting one, and a manual boost control. I'm getting a gillis for the boost control, but I'm looking for advice on the fpr. The prices are quite varied, and they don't seem to be too different. What are the proved performers? Or at least, which ones should be avoided? My fuel pump is an sp1154, it's a little more psi than the factory pump.
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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #368 on: December 22, 2015, 08:06:45 AM »
Well... I'm ashamed to say, I lost my cool and the pinto is destroyed. Not wrecked, just shot, beaten and burned to the ground. Not my proudest moment. So I'll just thank all of you again... and bow out. Thank you.
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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #369 on: December 22, 2015, 11:00:03 AM »
??? This isn't the way these stories are suppose to end.

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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #370 on: December 22, 2015, 04:57:02 PM »
Ouch!  So sorry to hear this!  Is there any chance of salvaging anything?


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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #371 on: December 22, 2015, 08:36:59 PM »
Wow, what a sad ending. :'(
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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #372 on: January 27, 2016, 09:51:19 AM »
I'm not giving up just yet.

Had a little set back, but I'm not done.

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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #373 on: January 27, 2016, 10:33:09 AM »
Good to hear that!!! Keep up the good work!!!
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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #374 on: January 27, 2016, 10:40:02 AM »
Glad to hear that..
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Re: Taking the turbo plunge!
« Reply #375 on: February 01, 2016, 01:55:26 PM »
Nice to have you back!

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« Reply #376 on: February 06, 2016, 11:23:52 AM »
Gathered up most of the parts for a front end rebuild w/big brakes and tubular a-arms etc.. And I finally found a reasonably priced 55" jag irs to cram in there too, after some restoration. Coming up with a sub frame plan for the irs, and some more reinforcements for the  frame tie ins. Now I'm just waiting for the clouds to part this spring.
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« Reply #377 on: March 02, 2016, 10:27:10 AM »
I cleared out the bondo from the holes, and mounted a trunk badge. It's the only piece of trim on it, but it's all those chevy boys will need. They can know it was a Pinto that shattered that bow tie dream.

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« Reply #378 on: March 02, 2016, 09:22:14 PM »
Looks good..
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