9 Guests, 0 Users

Author Topic: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.  (Read 47676 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« on: June 11, 2011, 04:35:42 PM »
Well, I figured I may as well start my own project thread.
I do this with the Idea that it may be of some help to someone who is considering traveling down a similar path, here we go. here she is as I brought her home.   has a 2.3 with a C4.     plans are, a built 2.3 Turbo and built C4.  am going to do a explorer 8.8 rear axle swap and aerostar aluminum drive shaft.


Since bringing her home I have pulled the engine and trans. pulled everything out of the interior.  now I am going through it to remove everything that isn't needed (weight reduction).  I have gutted the bumpers,  removed all sound deadening and every nut and bolt that isn't needed. the interior will go back in when everything else is done, subframe connectors etc.  will update as things happen or questions arise.

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2011, 08:18:55 PM »
I was looking at the heavy steel bumper mount/shocks on the front and rear. I want to fab up some aluminum brackets to replace these heavy steel units. it doesn't  look to be to difficult.  doing this would accomplish two things, lighter weight, and to move the bumper in closer to the body.  has anybody else fabed there own mounts ?  have any pics ?

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 04:25:30 PM »
Well, I fabed up front bumper mounts today, the old shock bumper mounts weight was 14 lbs.  the new mounts weigh 2.4 lbs that's a difference of 11.60 lbs   .    they also move the front bumper in to the body about 2+" .    I also drilled and collapsed the rear bumper mounts 2.5" .  I may at some point fab up some light aluminum mounts for the rear but not today. anyway, the pinto is now 4.5" shorter and almost 12 lbs lighter, that's not counting all the other weight reduction that has been accomplished.

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2011, 01:39:48 PM »
I want to do a 5 lug conversion on the front of the car so it will match the 5 lug rear that will be going in.  I've seen different kits on E Bay and Speedway motors ranging from a simple 5lug rotor replacement to a full blown replace everything kit. The price ranges all the way from $60.00 or so for a 5lug rotor to $700.00 for some full blown kits. exactly what do I need ?  If I can just swap out rotors that would be great...    whats the deal ?

Offline Bigtimmay

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 710
  • FeedBack: +8/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Everythings better with boost!

  • Total Badges: 6
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Poll Voter Fifth year Anniversary Mobile User Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2011, 02:34:05 PM »
Speedway makes a replacement rotor thats the same as stock but 5 lug thats the easiest. But if you want better brakes you can upgrade them from 9 inch discs to 11 inch disc buy using a Granada rotor, speedway adapter bracket/GM metric caliper which are larger and work better.
 
But thats all up to you and wether or not you think the stock size brakes are up to snuff for your project. On mine personally I want the largest brakes i can get front and rear Ive even thought about doing the cobra brake swap.
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2011, 03:25:44 PM »
I think I would be better off with the larger brakes.   So,  are these the only parts I need to get ?  do I just buy the rotor or the hub and rotor ?

you can upgrade them from 9 inch discs to 11 inch disc buy using a Granada rotor, speedway adapter bracket/GM metric caliper which are larger and work better

Offline Bigtimmay

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 710
  • FeedBack: +8/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Everythings better with boost!

  • Total Badges: 6
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Poll Voter Fifth year Anniversary Mobile User Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2011, 05:19:51 PM »
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Mustang-II-Complete-11-Inch-Brake-Kit-Ford-Bolt-Pattern,2008.html
 
Thats everything needed to do the swap to the 11 inch granada rotors.
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2011, 05:25:06 PM »
Awesome,  the rotors on the explorer rear are 11 - 1/4.  pretty good match. I'll be ordering that kit soon.  Thanks.   

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2011, 11:29:50 PM »
well I pretty much have everything stripped out that's going to be.  old shocks are gone  will be replaced by performance shocks. I haven't decided yet weather I am going to cut out the trunk floor and refab it. that will depend on the rear shocks used and I will be repositioning the rear shock mounting points.  Also the battery and a fuel cell are going into the trunk.  and that's pretty much where I'm at as of now...

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2011, 06:00:28 PM »
I know there are a lot of you guys that have cut out the trunk floor to install a fuel cell.  Anybody have any pics of there install ?  Tips,  helpful hints , etc.

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2011, 06:52:39 AM »
The trunk floor is gone. I'll be going to find some square steel tubing to frame up a well for the fuel cell, then tie it all into the pinto rear frame. when that's done it will be covered with thin sheet of sheet metal and all welded together with an access door/panel to access the cell. I'm going with a cell design that is 7.5 inches deep so it can be flush with the new trunk floor and not hang down much further than the stock tank. I think I will take pics since no one has answered the call and I cannot find pics of anybody else that has done this.

Offline Pinturbo75

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 722
  • FeedBack: +26/-0
  • Gender: Male

  • Total Badges: 6
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Tenth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User Fifth year Anniversary
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2011, 07:34:26 AM »
dont know how much this will help but you can look through my albumn....

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/blacksheep1703/my%2075%20turbopinto/?start=60
75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
73 turbo pinto panel wagon, ms1, 85 lb inj, fmic, holset hy35, 3" exhaust, msd, bov,

Offline baflinn

  • Pinto Member
  • **
  • Posts: 39
  • FeedBack: +0/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Liquidating all Pinto related parts
    • Bruce Flinn

  • Total Badges: 5
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Tenth year Anniversary Webmaster Fifth year Anniversary
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2011, 10:14:23 AM »
Hey don33, if you're interested I have a NOS (1971) TransGo C4 shift kit and a new WIX trans filter that would help you with your C4 build. New ones are going on ebay starting at around $48.

My kit is not just springs it has everything from the gasket to the shift module with complete instructions for the build included. Will add a pic this weekend of all the internal components.

I'll let both the kit and filter go for $50 plus shipping if interested.

pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruceflinn/sets/72157626843265609/

- Bruce

PS. any ideas on whether or not you want the sport mirror from the '74?
Liquidating all Pinto related parts.

Current list can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bruceflinn/8007178278/in/photostream

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2011, 01:33:40 PM »
thanks for the picks Pinturbo75, yep, your treatment of the fuelcell install is very similar to what I have planned.


baflinn, I allready have my C4 built but thanks for the offer.... and I am holding out for a matched set on the mirrors. but you never know, so if I end up needing yours I will let you know, thanks.

Offline 289pinto

  • Pinto Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 117
  • FeedBack: +0/-0
  • Gender: Male

  • Total Badges: 5
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Linux User Mobile User Fifth year Anniversary
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2011, 04:56:17 PM »
sounds like a fun project! Damn I really want to go to a 5 lug pattern now seeing how big of brakes I can get. Oh well I'll see what I can do for a bigger rotor with the 4 lug pattern.
1978 Pinto wagon, 289, 8" rear, 17" cobra R rims

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2011, 06:22:54 PM »
yeah you can get some nice brakes if you are so inclined. but it really opens up the world of wheels......  I'll be using this kit from speedway motors on the front

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Mustang-II-Complete-11-Inch-Brake-Kit-Ford-Bolt-Pattern,2008.html

and the stock explorer brakes on the rear, 11.25 rotors.  I think I'll be able to get her stopped.

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2011, 08:43:28 PM »
Got the trunk floor removed...  ready to buy some steel and do some framing.



Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2011, 11:07:57 PM »
 :tgif:

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2011, 04:11:15 PM »
parts are starting to trickle in.  the speedway 5 lug rotor kit has arrived. and yesterday I picked up a 97 ford aerostar aluminum driveshaft.  the stock steel driveshaft is 46", the aerostar aluminum is 45.5"  the difference in weight is significant.  just for kicks I thought I would insert the aerostar shaft into the tailshaft of the C4 trans. it slid right in. how awesome is that !



you can see the yoak inserted into the C4 tailshaft in the pic. also I got he flange attached to the rear of the driveshaft. with any luck at all, it will bolt right to the 8.8 rear...  today the ups guy brought me the all steel universal joint from speedway motors to replace the rag joint on the steering shaft. I feel like its christmass...

Offline dave1987

  • Pinto Sr. Master
  • ******
  • Posts: 3431
  • FeedBack: +25/-0
  • Gender: Male

  • Total Badges: 11
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Tenth year Anniversary Poll Voter Mobile User Apple User Linux User Windows User 1000 Posts Fifth year Anniversary Photographer
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2011, 02:03:48 AM »
Congrats on the "bolt on" drive shaft! I may go this route with Brownie (my 73 with C4 trans and 6.75" rear), instead of having the steel one rebalanced. That is, if it's cheaper. Heck, if not, I could get the aluminum one for my 78 like I have been planning, and the swap them out since I know the 78's is balanced perfectly!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Offline fomocolover

  • Pinto Member
  • **
  • Posts: 36
  • FeedBack: +0/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Cruising Wagon Driver

  • Total Badges: 5
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Linux User Mobile User Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2011, 09:20:42 PM »
Hey Don what year of aerostar did you get this drive shaft out of im thinking i need one....Thanks

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2011, 10:02:18 PM »
1997, but there are several years that are the same.  I think it is 96 and up. its the rear driveshaft on the 4X4 model...  after some quick research I have found that the 96/97 is the ones that have the C4/T5 compatable yoak.. although the newer years may be the same.  there may be more but those two for sure... it will be 45.5 center to center on the drive shaft u joints. and make sure the ends are welded on not crimped on. I believe it was only the early shafts that were crimped 95 and earlier.  and one last note, you may or may not need a different rear u-joint.

Offline dave1987

  • Pinto Sr. Master
  • ******
  • Posts: 3431
  • FeedBack: +25/-0
  • Gender: Male

  • Total Badges: 11
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Tenth year Anniversary Poll Voter Mobile User Apple User Linux User Windows User 1000 Posts Fifth year Anniversary Photographer
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2011, 01:02:36 AM »
Me and my dad pulled a shaft from a 2wd Aerostar but it was to long, 57 1/4". I will be going back to have it swapped out though.

At O'Reilly AutoParts I found the necessary U-Joints to use with this axle. they are PRE 353. It is a crossover u-joint so it is longer one way than the other.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/PRE0/353.oap?keyword=353



1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2011, 09:20:43 AM »
good info on the u-joint dave.  I assume that joint is to mate up with an 8" ? and Dave, didn't  I tell you to get the rear shaft out of a 4X4 model  8)...

1997, but there are several years that are the same.  I think it is 96 and up. its the rear driveshaft on the 4X4 model...  after some quick research I have found that the 96/97 is the ones that have the C4/T5 compatable yoak.. although the newer years may be the same.  there may be more but those two for sure... it will be 45.5 center to center on the drive shaft u joints. and make sure the ends are welded on not crimped on. I believe it was only the early shafts that were crimped 95 and earlier.  and one last note, you may or may not need a different rear u-joint.

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2011, 05:28:23 PM »
well, havent done a lot for a while, but yesterday I got motivated and pulled out the new welder and this is what happened...



framed up the rear, fuel cell will mount in the center, with the battery going on the right and the the nos bottle on the left. havent decided how low to mount the fuel cell yet. the fuel cell is 8" tall and I would like to mount it with the top flush with the trunk floor. opinions/examples ?  forget those examples, got er done...


Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2011, 07:10:32 PM »
heres another pic of the fuel cell taken from the inside of the car looking into the trunk.



here is looking from the rear of the car showing all that is seen of the fuel cell is the sump.



and here are two pics showing the front and rear bumpers after sucking them closer into the body.





and last but not least, threw the old rag joint away and replaced it with this forged steel u joint from speedway motors



Next on the agenda, subframe connectors...!

Offline dave1987

  • Pinto Sr. Master
  • ******
  • Posts: 3431
  • FeedBack: +25/-0
  • Gender: Male

  • Total Badges: 11
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Tenth year Anniversary Poll Voter Mobile User Apple User Linux User Windows User 1000 Posts Fifth year Anniversary Photographer
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2011, 12:03:08 AM »
I'm curious as to how nice the steering is with the steel U-Joint. I was thinking of putting one on my 78 Sedan, it still has the rag joint on it (replaced with a rubber HELP unit).
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Offline Bigtimmay

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 710
  • FeedBack: +8/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Everythings better with boost!

  • Total Badges: 6
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Signature Poll Voter Fifth year Anniversary Mobile User Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2011, 01:07:51 AM »
How many gallon fuel cell is that? Also where did you buy it from?
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2011, 08:35:42 AM »
Dave, I love the feel of a steel u joint. if you move the wheel a little you get the same movement in the tires. there is no slop, no play.  you get a much better feel of the road and to me that = quicker response and better control.  some may not like that, some will like the soft mushy feel of a rag joint. but if you are performance oriented, it is the only way to go.

Timmay.... that is an 8 gallon fuel cell, and I purchased it from Speedway Motors. and it is a perfect fit.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Jaz-Bottom-Sump-Fuel-Cell-8-Gallon,443.html

Offline don33

  • Pinto Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 280
  • FeedBack: +5/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • Another Pinto Driver

  • Total Badges: 4
    Badges: (View All)
    Topic Starter Fifth year Anniversary Poll Voter Windows User
Re: Official 1980 Turbo Pinto Project Thread.
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2011, 07:33:12 PM »
well, I started on the subframe connectors today.  heres my progress on the drivers side. hope to get most of it done today.





finished up the drivers side, will get to the passenger side on wendsday...


ahhh, got it done. just a little clean up and tie the subframes into the front leaf spring perches and thats that.