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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Old parts collecting?

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blupinto

In my junkyard hunting days I've collected two interior door panels- black with aluminum wannabe woodgrain (long strip) with the bucking filly embossed on it; a couple hubcaps with the American-cheese-orange (iris?) and kickin' filly middle (have only one 'cap now); countless pinto emblems from different years; a couple shift knobs with filly; a couple stallion steering wheel centers; aluminum mag wheels; two different types of wheel centers- red and black- with fillies; various years of owners manuals...
One can never have too many Pintos!

Bipper

Quote from: 72Wagon on July 08, 2008, 08:20:29 PM
How many people here collect old Pinto parts that they will probably never use or sell?  What are your unique/desirable parts?

I stopped looking for parts about 15 years ago. Don;t have any more room to store them.

Quote from: 72Wagon on July 09, 2008, 07:32:35 PM
Yes but is anything rare or unique?

I have the Toyota 5sp, bellhousing, adapter, trans mount and driveshaft that Ak Miller made to fit on a 2.0 engine. I guess it's rare, he only made one.

Bob












71 Sedan, stock
72 Pangra
73 Runabout, 2L turbo propane

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: rear ended on July 10, 2008, 12:53:59 PM
Deffinitely the hot pants.  I am sure these would sell if we could get the aftermarket going.  Een if every pinto had hot pants, I do not think it would get old.  If you cannot get them made, let me know i WILL LOOK INTO IT. :showback:

well... Map351 has made the rear spoiler and can make/sell more. He had the rear spats (side-behind the rear tire) and made a mold for them. All he needs now is the side pieces (between tires and under door) and people willing to pay and I'm sure we can convince him to complete all but the front spoiler... these pieces (except the front spoiler) will fit all sedans and hatchbacks, the wagons will need a custom rear spat but I think there was enough interest in them back when we did the "poll" so that may be a real possibility too..

The front spoiler will be hard to duplicate (complicated) and only fits the 71-73 cars (because of the bigger front bumpers 74 and up) so I would guess that piece will be last...

I am more than willing to provide anything Map351 needs to duplicate this kit, all he needs is time and willing buyers... I want to see them made as I really don't want to use the 2 sets I have on any future projects (unless the right/original one comes along) and will buy 1 or 2 myself  ;D

and please.... let's not hijack this thread with Hot Pants Replies/interest....

Go Here --> http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,9997.0.html
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

crossy

I already found a 2.0 header, Spearco intake, and a rare cast aluminum timing belt cover , just looking for a matching valve cover now and a holley 390. Just before i bought my Pinto i saw a set of Tubular traction bars sell on ebay pretty cheap. I can't find any parts cars around here. I  think i have the only Pinto still on the road within 50 miles at least. crossy
ehh ehhh ehhh FIRE! FIRE!

Norman Bagi

Deffinitely the hot pants.  I am sure these would sell if we could get the aftermarket going.  Een if every pinto had hot pants, I do not think it would get old.  If you cannot get them made, let me know i WILL LOOK INTO IT. :showback:

Smeed

Quote from: Cookieboy on July 09, 2008, 11:00:40 PM
sorry.. no.

Map351 has made the spoiler in fiberglass and will make the rest as time and demand dictates. The original kits are all mine  ;D

:hypno: The hotpants pintos are by far my favorite. I hope these come out soon.

'73 runabout

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: Pintony on July 09, 2008, 11:01:19 PM
How about a Pangra turbo still in the sealed box signed by AK Miller???

Holy  :o  :o  :o !
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: 71pintoracer on July 09, 2008, 10:05:16 PM
hey Cookieboy, want to sell one of those body kits?

sorry.. no.

Map351 has made the spoiler in fiberglass and will make the rest as time and demand dictates. The original kits are all mine  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

turbo74pinto

Quote from: 72Wagon on July 09, 2008, 07:32:35 PM
Yes but is anything rare or unique?

ive never met or talked personally to pintony....but it seems like if it is rare, unique or just a pinto part, he has it or knows of someone.  i must say, his garage/barn must be sweet!!

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

71pintoracer

hey Cookieboy, want to sell one of those body kits?
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: 72Wagon on July 09, 2008, 07:32:35 PM
Yes but is anything rare or unique?

yes... 2 hot pants body kits new in the box


opps... thought that question was for me.. .
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

72Wagon

Quote from: Pintony on July 08, 2008, 10:24:43 PM
I might have a Pinto part or two stashed away... ;D

Yes but is anything rare or unique?
1972 Wagon
2.0 (not stock), 4 Speed with Hurst shifter and roll control, Holley 390 4bbl, Spearco intake, MSD Ignition. 8 inch rearend 3.55 gears, custom dash and interior.

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: TIGGER on July 09, 2008, 03:29:43 PM
Nice score Brian, where did you find that?

a local guy bought a pinto for the suspension and driveline for a kit car...

I got to pull all parts he didn't want before it went to the bone yard, I had 1 night to do it and that's what I got  ;)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

TIGGER

Quote from: Cookieboy on July 08, 2008, 11:34:58 PM
I have a few toys in the attic...

recently added the "complete" interior from and 80 Pinto all glass with AC in blue. All of it is in really good condition and I did get it all, right down to the dash. Plus 2 doors, 2 fenders, good front bumper, grill and headlight buckets, all marker and tail lights, the glass hatch and hatch seal.... that was a good day  ;D

Nice score Brian, where did you find that?
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

dholvrsn

In my attempt to build a turbo Pinto, I have picked up a parts Pinto, two parts Merkurs, a spare T-bird engine, and a whole lot of spare odds and ends.

I really need to get off my butt and sell some of this stuff on eBay and get some money back.....
'80 MPG Pony, '80-'92
'79 porthole wagon, '06-on
'80 trunk model. '17-on
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'95 Buick Riviera
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'57 Studebaker Silver Hawk
'51 Studebaker Commander Starlight
'47 Studebaker Champion
'41 Studebaker Commander Land Cruiser

Cookieboystoys

I have a few toys in the attic...

recently added the "complete" interior from and 80 Pinto all glass with AC in blue. All of it is in really good condition and I did get it all, right down to the dash. Plus 2 doors, 2 fenders, good front bumper, grill and headlight buckets, all marker and tail lights, the glass hatch and hatch seal.... that was a good day  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

TIGGER

I too have a bunch of parts stashed away that would be hard to replace.  I also have a bunch of parts waiting for my 73 Turbo car that I never seem to have the time to work on.  The rest of my stuff is for sale ;D
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

77turbopinto

It would be easier for me to list what I DON'T have.

J.K., but I do have a whole bunch of stuff that would be hard to replace so I like to keep 'spares'.


Bill
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turbo74pinto

more of a pack rat here.

american racing libres
front and rear sway bars
2.25 lowering blocks
lowering springs
c-4 w/ mustang ii bell
2.3 turbo short block
extra turbo coupe t5 for parts
misc interior parts from my 76 wagon

im sure theres more, but i dont look at it.  i have much more crap from my old fox body and the 41 ford. 

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

72Wagon

 How many people here collect old Pinto parts that they will probably never use or sell?  What are your unique/desirable parts?
I have:
1971 stock 2.0 engine (running take out)
  2 spare 2.0 heads
  Stage 2 Racer Walsh camshaft (less than 100 miles on it)
  Offenhauser 4bbl intake
  390 cfm Carb
  Degreeable cam gear (2.0)
  1set still packaged performance rocker/followers
  Clock console 
  72 wagon complete wire harness
 
  NO THESE PARTS ARE NOT FOR SALE!!!

I know I am a pack-rat, my garage attic has boxes of stock Pinto parts that I just keep holding onto in hopes of needing some day.

Any other Pack-rats / collectors?

Kevin













1972 Wagon
2.0 (not stock), 4 Speed with Hurst shifter and roll control, Holley 390 4bbl, Spearco intake, MSD Ignition. 8 inch rearend 3.55 gears, custom dash and interior.