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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Carol Shelby owns a Pinto.

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apintonut

ok now that i leard so much more about carol  shelby then i did. so i will now believe that he drive a pinto for 2 resons he is in need of money and has to bugget transprotaion and dose not want to be seen buy any one how has bout a car from him reasently
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map351

When $helby claimed he found the New Old chassis Brian Angliss who owns all the AC Car records & body bucks & remains of AC called BS!  Brian knows how many Chassis were made & the VINs of every chassis that went out the Door in Thames Dilton.

Brian put the brakes on that scam.
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gordie

Carol Shelby got into big time trouble with the California DMV a few years ago when he "discovered" that he had 40 some original Shelby frames that were not really original. The frames were made up and were found "aging" in Shelby's yard.  His intention was to sell new cars for $500,000 each but when he tried to register the first ones DMV came down on him and would not issue certificates of origin which would make them legimitate so he had to sell them as race cars or specials and they could not be registered for the street.  A few were sold but not many people wanted to pay that much money for a car that could not be registered and had no serial number.  That kind of killed the project and no more cars were made.  For the whole story go to Google and put in Carol Shelby California DMV.  There are a couple of good articles on the subject.

douglasskemp

Not that I really care one way or the other, but for SCCA's version, go to their website: http://www.saac.com/

For Carroll Shelby's version, read either the July issue of Road & Track, or the latest issue (July I think, it's at home, I am at work) of Mustang Monthly.
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map351

Quote from: Tercin on June 19, 2008, 01:35:43 PM
  Shelby is not going to sue us is he? I have read about Shelby's legal dealings with SAAC. I was predisposed to go against the 300 pound gorilla aka Shelby, however I have also read that SAAC has not lived up to their obligations and is a for profit company. The club president has not had a real job in years, he lives off of the money he makes from SAAC. Correct me if I am wrong but I have read this in many car magazines.

  If Shelby does have a pinto as it is described, it sounds like he is trying to keep it a sleeper so that he can drive around without being mobbed.

Tercin

Everyone seems to forget that $helby gave up all his obligations & rights to the Cobra Name/Logo to Ford in 1967 and moved to Africa shoot unarmed animals!  He could care less about cars/Cobra/Daytona/GT-350/GT/GT-40, Until they became valuably they he wanted all his marbles back that he gave away to Ford & SAAC. He actually has the BALLS to sue FORD for the Cobra logo that Ford paid for!  If it wasn't for Ford fronting the cash for $helbys adventure he would be back on the Chicken farm in Texas....  Next time you see him ask about the 427 Cobra chassis he forgot about in the Desert that just happened to have CSX Vins that never existed & the Offshore accounts..

Another part of the story that was left out is, in the mid 70s the founders of SAAC went to the old $helby CA shop and saved all the records that existed on the cars, they were getting ready to dump all the paper work in the dumpster out back!  I have no love for SAAC or $helby. I feel that SAAC saved the history of these cars and $helby is trying to cash in on the Mother Load..
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High_Horse

QuoteIf Shelby does have a pinto as it is described, it sounds like he is trying to keep it a sleeper so that he can drive around without being mobbed
... ;)


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Tercin

  Shelby is not going to sue us is he? I have read about Shelby's legal dealings with SAAC. I was predisposed to go against the 300 pound gorilla aka Shelby, however I have also read that SAAC has not lived up to their obligations and is a for profit company. The club president has not had a real job in years, he lives off of the money he makes from SAAC. Correct me if I am wrong but I have read this in many car magazines.

  If Shelby does have a pinto as it is described, it sounds like he is trying to keep it a sleeper so that he can drive around without being mobbed.

Tercin
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71HANTO

Shelby's favorite daily driver for many years (when he spent more time in LA instead of Las Vegas) was a Red Convertible 1969/70 Shelby GT 500 with auto/air. The car may have been sold at Barrett Jackson's auction to help fund his charity last year. My understanding is the money he got from selling his personal collection went to fund his charity (they announced it at the auctions before the bidding). The last time I saw him he was driving a Shelby Series One. If I see him at the Monterey Historics this year, I'll ask about the pinto.
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Wittsend

On the Sunbeam Tiger mail list I subscribe to the SAAC thing is talked about a lot.  Seems there are two sides.  It is best to hear what both sides say (not that I'm inclining anyone to an opinion).

I have a friend who is an engine builder for Shelby.  I haven't seen him in years, but if I do I'll try and remember to ask about the Pinto.  By the way, it's rumored that Shelby likes his Tiger a lot too.
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Smeed

I thought he pocketed it. Thats a good sign. The charity is a nice thing to do. Im not sure about that SAAC thing though... but everyone knows how legal departments can be....

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71HANTO

Quote from: Smeed on June 18, 2008, 03:28:51 PM
Alright, maybe we dont want him on the forums. He sounds like a [expletive deleted].



In Shelby's defense getting $$ for autographs. That money goes to his charity that funds heart transplants for kids. He does not benefit from the money. I have talked with him several times and my impression of him is that he is basically a fine guy but I have not had any business dealings with him. He sent Fastbak390 a signed picture and politely asked that I make a donation in the amount of my choice to his charity. I was happy to help the cause.
"Life is a series of close ones...'til the last one"...cfpjr

Norman Bagi

Well if a guy who claims he is Carol Shelby's publicist says Shelby has a pinto, then it must be true.  ;)
Anyway, it would be pretty cool if it were, but I would have to see him at least sitting in one to believe it.

Smeed

Quote from: map351 on June 18, 2008, 02:14:09 PM
He charges $200 Bux for his autograph..

Alright, maybe we dont want him on the forums. He sounds like a [expletive deleted].

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map351

Quote from: High_Horse on June 18, 2008, 01:14:59 PM
I would have definitly asked him to sign my air cleaner...and...I wonder what he named his Pinto???


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He charges $200 Bux for his autograph..
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High_Horse

I would have definitly asked him to sign my air cleaner...and...I wonder what he named his Pinto???


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map351

Quote from: turbo toy on June 18, 2008, 06:54:41 AM
I agree 100%, but I think it's Yenko Vega.
In the North it's Yanko! :showback:
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Quote from: map351 on June 18, 2008, 06:36:04 AM
He's also one of the Biggest A-Holes in the car world at this point in time!
What he's trying to pull on SAAC is as low as it gets!
http://saacforum.com/index.php?topic=444.0
I think you mean Yanko Vega...

I agree 100%, but I think it's Yenko Vega.

map351

Quote from: apintonut on June 18, 2008, 02:07:49 AM
as he is one of the most popular people in the car world we would have herd some thing sooner.  yanco vega.

He's also one of the Biggest A-Holes in the car world at this point in time!
What he's trying to pull on SAAC is as low as it gets!
http://saacforum.com/index.php?topic=444.0
I think you mean Yanko Vega...
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apintonut

 ???  id hafta see that one to believe it.  as he is one of the most popular people in the car world we would have herd some thing sooner. that would be like a yanco vega.  how ever this is not the first time i herd this. i how ever have never herd it form a documented. 
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Smeed

Awesome. How hasnt he registered here yet?

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TIGGER

Cool, now we need some magazine to do a story on it ;D
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High_Horse

While we were sitting by our cars at the Central regional meet a guy came up to us and asked if Carol Shelby had been by? He identified himself as Carol Shelbys publisist and said Carol owns a 78 Pinto with a 351 Windsor installed in it. He went on to explain that of all of the cars in Shelbys collection the Pinto is his favorite. He said Shelby has it filled with empty boxes to look like he it hauling things with it and drives it to visit freinds of his. He closed by saing that if you see Shelby to ask him about his Pinto and his eyes will light up and he will tell you all about it.
This is a direct quote.


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