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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

351 factory Pinto?

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Pintony

Maybe the Pinto came with a factory 8???
4 banger in front and another in the hatch when the cam lobes wore off in
1974-5???? ;D ;D ;D

Farmboy

  I herd in Brazil Pintos came stock with a 460 ;D
  I do what the voices in my Pinto tell me to do




74 Pinto Wagon
71 Runabout (parts car)

gordie

The Pinto always was an economy car and Ford constantly bragged about the miles per gallon that you could get with them.  Look at the sales brochures and magazine ads and you can see the idea. Why they messed around with the V6 I will never know as it ruined the economy theme and they never were popular and mechanics hated them.  If you wanted to go a little faster you could step up to a Maverick or Mustang for not much more money.  Ford never even thought about a bigger engine for the Pinto for that reason.

dholvrsn

Is it possible that Ford did a proof-of-concept. evaluation, or even possible production prototype?

DGH
'80 MPG Pony, '80-'92
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beegle55

I second gordie. I'm 125% certain no Pinto left the factory with a V8. Dealer install MAYBE its a long-shot but MAYBE. There sure are alot of V8 conversions done by private owners of Pinto's, some of which probably look very very original and professionally done.

     -beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

gordie

I was around when the Pintos were new and owned a lot of them as I had a used car lot and have had over 10,000 cars in my day.  The factory never modified the Pintos by putting big engines in them including in Mexico.  Maybe some dealers did but I never heard of it.  Get rid of that myth that they did as no one will ever be able to prove it as it just never happened.

beegle55

Quote from: FCANON on April 24, 2008, 11:46:19 AM
I still wont belive in a factory V8 pinto till I see the paper work....

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
^ ^ Dido. I want to see some official work about V8 Pinto's.

    -beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

bobscat


FCANON

I still wont belive in a factory V8 pinto till I see the paper work....

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
www.pintoworks.com   www.tirestopinc.com
www.stophumpingmytown.com
www.FrankBoss.com

earthquake

Nah the 302 was installed to help them cross the boarder without being caught,the 4 wasn't fast enough.
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302Pinto

The reason the Mexican Pintos came with a 302 was so they could get around on the mountain terrain. The 4 cylinder motors weren't strong enough.

ADaughen

I saw a super rare Shelby 289ci Pinto back in '02.  It was clean.  Must have been stock. 
'78 Cruisin' Wagon

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: phils toys on April 21, 2008, 02:37:34 PM
Hay , Last time this came up i thought the v8 was only offered in Mexico.   :fastcar:

Phils toys

:lol:  :lol:  :lol: I think you're right Phil, I forgot about that...  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

phils toys

Hay , Last time this came up i thought the v8 was only offered in Mexico.   :fastcar:

Phils toys
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bobscat

 :look:  :look:  :look:  :look:  :look:

ummmmmm..........

Wittsend

  It is a known fact that most Pinto's came with an over head cam engine. Thus, when you ordered your Pinto (new) with the stripes on the side, you got an engine to match. That being the SOHC 427. But, being that most people bought the Pinto for economy, few ordered the stripes. Thus, yes, these are rare cars.

  The 351 version of the Pinto was the economical version of the "side stripe" package. The cost reduction being that this was a OHV engine.

  Then of course there in the Pangra. This elongated front end was needs when the inline six (200 and 250) was installed in the Pinto.

  Anyway, I hope that clears up the story for you. There is just too much mis-information floating out there about 4 cylinder Pinto's with OHV engines from England and OHC engines from Germany.  I mean, come on..., the Pinto is an American car!
Tom
Added 4-26-08 ---- I am of course only poking fun at the "form follows function" concept. Meaning if the car has stripes it HAS to have an engine to make it go faster.  If it has an extended front end it HAS to have a longer engine.  Such "Idiot logic" as that.  :-)

Norman Bagi

I was scepticle myself, I have not heard of a 351 offered.  But thought I would check with you guys first just in case Rousch or someone built a bunch back in the day.  I have not seen the car as of yet, but would like too.  The first thing I will look for if I get a look at this thing, is the size of the gas tank, because the stock 12 gallon tank deffinitely would not have worked with a 351.  I've seen pintos with bigger engines though, so anything is possible, the engine compartment has more room than most full size cars of today.  If I hear or see anything, I will let you know.

dick1172762

I've seen two with 429/460's in them so anything is possible I guess. But a real Boss 302 is big-big-big. The heads are the problem as the block is the same size as a 289/302. With enough money and a torch you can make any thing fit.


Quote from: FCANON on April 19, 2008, 08:31:53 PM
Boss 302 Pintos aren't rare in the mid west...I hear a half dozen stories about owner and sitings a summer...most are Chevy guys or hicks...
you go check them out and most that are wives tells are just plain 302/289's...

At some point I just give up.

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
www.FrankBoss.com
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

beegle55

The 302's weren't factory though. Only 1600 cc, 2000 cc, 2300 cc, and the V6 engine option were available from the factory.

    -beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

FCANON

Boss 302 Pintos aren't rare in the mid west...I hear a half dozen stories about owner and sitings a summer...most are Chevy guys or hicks...
you go check them out and most that are wives tells are just plain 302/289's...

At some point I just give up.

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
www.FrankBoss.com
www.pintoworks.com   www.tirestopinc.com
www.stophumpingmytown.com
www.FrankBoss.com

dick1172762

BOSS 302 PINTOS????? Now thats rare!



Quote from: FCANON on April 19, 2008, 02:31:35 PM
Deffently not a 351 Pinto..all factory V8 pintos in this area are Boss 302's...
After a while you get use to peoples claims on this...

Have him take Pics anyways...might be fun to see it. after all the old lady was driving a hot pinto.

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
www.FrankBoss.com
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

FCANON

Deffently not a 351 Pinto..all factory V8 pintos in this area are Boss 302's...
After a while you get use to peoples claims on this...

Have him take Pics anyways...might be fun to see it. after all the old lady was driving a hot pinto.

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
www.FrankBoss.com
www.pintoworks.com   www.tirestopinc.com
www.stophumpingmytown.com
www.FrankBoss.com

beegle55

No. Not from the factory. Could be a dealer install but I highly doubt it, installing a 351 would take a lot of work specific to only one car and a dealer is usually more worried about dealing with his cars as a group.

   -beegle55
2005 Jeep GC 5.7 HEMI
1993 Ford Mustang
1991 Ford Mustang GT
1988 Ford Mustang
1980 Ford Pinto Cruising- Mint, Fully documented
1979 Ford Pinto Trunk- 2.3L 4 speed
1978 Ford Pinto HB- 302 drag car
1976 Ford Pinto Runabout- 40,000 mi, V6
1972 Ford Maverick Grabber (real)
1970 Ford Mustang 302

Cookieboystoys

this has been asked and discussed before...

Ford never offered a V8 in the Pinto... from the factory.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

pintoches

I was told PInto's never came with a V8.
It takes a lot of work to put a 351 in a pinto!
Ches Lathim
72 Pinto Wagon
78 F150 4x4
87 ford F150

Norman Bagi

Does anyone know if a Pinto ever came with a factory installed 351.  A freind of mine is eyeing buying a Pinto owned by a little old lady (I think from Pasedena) who claims her Pinto with V8 351 was factory installed, she also claims they only made 100 of them.  Is this true, if so, it is a rare find.