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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

1977 Pinto- project in the works

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r4pinto

Didn't get the carb. While I was out working on my Grandma's car someone else set a better bid than I did. Oh well.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintogirl

Congrats on getting her running!!!!  (Ok, I know I already said that on yahoo, but had to put it on here too!! LOL)

A carb swap is what I had to do on the Green Machine! Once I did the swap she ran fine!! Cleaned the old carb twice before the swap and never fixed the problem. I got my new carb off ebay too!!! Great place when it comes to getting some stuff kinda cheap!!  ;D Just got to be in the right place at the right time1!!!!

Congrats again. Now go out and drive!!!  :police: ;D
Kim
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I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

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75bobcatv6


r4pinto

Thanks! I'm gonna put a different carb on the car to try to eliminate the initial bogging I am experience when I first start to rev the engine. Back when I bought the car in 2005 I was told by the previous owner they couldn't get the carb to act right. I rebuilt it but have never gotten the car to run right on it. Time to just get a different carb, especially since they are popping up on ebay.  :lol:
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

75bobcatv6

now thats good news r4 glad shes doing so well

r4pinto

Good news!!!!

After fooling with a bad miss at idle, with help from other Pinto members I tracked down a vacuum leak. The vacuum tree on the number 4 intake runner had a bad, bad rubber plug over the top, causing a MAJOR vacuum leak. I replaced the plug, as well as another small one and the car fired right up with no problem!

As the distributor in the car had a broken plug on it I swapped it out with a different one & got the timing and idle set.The car now fires up within a second of turning the key and at idle she runs so smooth, it's as if the car isn't running.

I have to be careful when I first get on the gas since it bogs down a bit at first but then I can get into it & she revs great!

Next I plan on fixing the oil leak, which I identified as the rear oil pan seal. Then I will be installing the radio and reassembling the interior. This car is really coming along & I couldn't be any happier about that. Next stop.... Mentor, Ohio.. Then Corry, PA!!!
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

phils toys

Quote from: r4pinto on June 28, 2009, 11:51:04 AM
Just drove her around the block... Yes, you heard right. I changed the plugs and distributor & she fired right up. She has a heavy misfire but she still drives. Gonna work on fixing that, as well as the oil leak.
that is a definate step giant leap forward.
keep at it matt.
phil
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

r4pinto

Oh you know it Becky... Only thing is I hateoverly long plug wires. Dunno at this point. We'll see.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

blupinto

You might as well replace the wires too. When I was getting Wildfire to run so we could go to Knott's the little metal cylinder in the plug wires that pops onto the spark plug disengaged fron the wire so I just replaced all the wires. I know it's more expense, and if I could afford to I'd send you the funds, but I think this is your next step.  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

r4pinto

Quote from: blupinto on June 28, 2009, 12:07:58 PM
The misfiring reminded me of a couple weeks ago. I took Avi (the Flying Avocado) to my best friend's place and when I tried to start her up to go home she actually backfired through the carb. It sounded like a gunshot. My friend looked out the window and her neighbor came out of his house and asked me about the noise. She hasn't done that since. I blame Fred! (just kidding Fred.  :lol:)

So do I lol.. It's gotta be a plug wire. They were way too long so I shortened them. I think I may have damaged them when I removed them to replace the plugs. Bad thing is I dunno how I can time the engine with it missing as bad as it is.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

blupinto

The misfiring reminded me of a couple weeks ago. I took Avi (the Flying Avocado) to my best friend's place and when I tried to start her up to go home she actually backfired through the carb. It sounded like a gunshot. My friend looked out the window and her neighbor came out of his house and asked me about the noise. She hasn't done that since. I blame Fred! (just kidding Fred.  :lol:)
One can never have too many Pintos!

r4pinto

Just drove her around the block... Yes, you heard right. I changed the plugs and distributor & she fired right up. She has a heavy misfire but she still drives. Gonna work on fixing that, as well as the oil leak.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

blupinto

Don't be like me and, uh, overtorque the pan bolts. I still haven't forgiven myself.  :'(
One can never have too many Pintos!

r4pinto

Glad to hear that! I did go ahead & replace the external seals before putting it in the car so hopefully that will take care of that.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

hellfirejim

Good to see the progress.  On the tranny, if it has sat for at least 3 years you might have some small leak issues untill the seals get well lubricated just fom sitting.  My c3 is working very well and i am happy.
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r4pinto

Forgot to update on the car...

Today I bolted on the exhaust & installed the alternator belt & tried to start the car. No go so I advanced the timing & she ran, but very fast idle. I disconnected the idle solenoid & it dropped back down. I got the solenoid on a carb I got from a buddy of mine but I will be taking it back off. Oh well, I tried anyways..

After fooling around with it I was able to get her going & set the timing. When I did that the car would not run with the vacuum advance hooked up. I am thinking the cam gear is off a few teeth or so. When I have the crank at TDC the distributor is at number one, but not sure of the cam. Gonna pull the timing cover to see. If the belt is off I'll reindex the cam & go from there.

I did get 5 quarts of tranny fluid in the car so once the car is running more consistently I will run through the gears & fill the tranny the rest of the way. I am a bit nervous since I don't know the condition of the tranny at all. I bought it off Pintony in 2006 but took him for his work it is good. We will see when I finish installing the fluid.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

I remembered something about when I replaced the crank & all the related parts.. I didn't replace the rear oil pan seal. I bought a gasket set & did replace the front but the rear looked good so I left it alone. I am thinking I may have knocked it off when I reinstalled the oil pan. Least of my problems at the moment. Gotta get the car running first.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

It was coming from the back of the engine. As quick as it started it stopped, so not too sure. Prolly will go over the bolts again just to make sure.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

75bobcatv6

where was the leak? was the leak at the top of the pan? or somewhere else? if its the pan go over the bolts again and make sure they are torqued correctly and check it again.

r4pinto

I got the exhaust on the car & man does it sound awfull. I dunno if the patch job is making it sound like crap or if maybe the muffler was more junk than either Phil or I thought. I dunno but hopefully I can get her running right so I can find out. I did notice that when I had the right side in the air & tried to start the car she was leaking oil. It stopped as soon as I lowered the right side back down so I dunno what to make of it. One thing at a time.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Thanks Becky, Yeah I rebuilt the carb just a day before I started her up. We'll see what happens today.

Thanks Phil, Back in the 80's my mom got pulled over for a loud exhaust. She knew the state trooper that pulled her over & he told her "Anita, the muffler is supposed to be on the car. Not in the car".
I thought of her last nite since the muffler is sitting in the back. Got to shorten the pipe some more, then the muffler will fit. Thank goodness for sawzalls lol.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

phils toys

good   job getting life back in her.  now  if only  you had a muffler ...hummmm...............
:lol:
good thing we cut that one off.
keep up  the good work.
phils toys
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

blupinto

Sure wish I could go over there and help or hinder you! lol. I'm proud of you Matty! Harold II will be rarin' to go before you know it. I'm already suffering from Old Timer's Disease because I don't remember if you did any carb work, but maybe that's why she stalls when you press the accelerator. See? Wish I was there... ;)
One can never have too many Pintos!

r4pinto

Thanks Kim. At this moment she is sitting at the top of the driveway so I can work on her first thing in the morning. I have 4 quarts of tranny fluid in her & will put in 4 more after the car will run under her own power. I'm gonna see what I can find out about why the car will not run when I give her gas. It's almost as if she is suffering from fuel starvation, but I'm not too sure. I can't run her too long with no muffler on. That will be the first thing to get fixed tomorrow  ;D
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintogirl

Wooo Hoooo!!! Glad she finally ran!!! You are almost ready for the open road!!!! Can't wait to see some pics of Harrold II and some Ohio backgrounds!!  ;D

Congrats!!!!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

r4pinto

Thanks!

I know it isn't the accelerator pump because when I  took the carb off the car I disassembled it to clean out any and all the rust that was in any crevis of the carb. One thing I did look at was the accelerator pump & it was very flexible. I'm gonna try to advance the timing a little to see if maybe that will help. One difference is on the car I installed the idle solenoid thing off of a carb I bought off a buddy of mine. Might try and disconnect that & see what happens.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dholvrsn

Congrats on Harold II!

That may or may not be a dried out accelerator pump in the carb.

I'm amused that Harold II is a she.

In Sci-Fi Guy!, a webcomic that I'm working up, there are a cat-girl named Tom, a calico named Rover, and a tabby named Melvin. Melvin's clueless owner says things like "He had kittens."

Also there 's Pursia in my InterStellar OverDrive comic. Pursia is a female Junior on the planet she's from. So she's technically a Leonina Jr.
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r4pinto

The time is 9:00pm in Ohio. At Approximately 8:58 Harold II was awakened from her 3 year long coma. While she is quite groggy and does not respond too well to the accelerator I am quite confident that come tomorrow she will have the get up and go of a newborn Pinto.

It came into my mind to make it sound like a patient in a hospital, especially since that is how I view my Harold II. She is not only my car, but my baby. Hopefully she likes her transplant, as well as the "open heart surgery" performed on her old, worn out engine. More to come tomorrow   ;D ;D :D

:fastcar: :tgif: Today, not only does TGIF stand for Thank God It's Friday, but also Thank God It's Fixed!!!
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

New Goal!!!

Get the car to fire up tomorrow or Thursday. Why the bump in the goal you ask? Because today I got the carb all cleaned out & adjusted. There isn't much to do to get her running, so I figure why not shoot for tomorrow or Thursday?.

Now, I did test my battery, and it is starting to show some age. The battery was replaced about a year before I bought the car and it wasn't that good of a battery to begin with. It just stands to reason that it is gonna go sooner, rather than later. Tomorrow I am gonna get some gas for her, as well as reinstall the driveshaft, tranny lines, and hopefully the starter. If that happens there is no reason why she won't start. As to how well she will run, I don't know. The goal is just to get her started.. Nothing more, nothing less.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Thanx Jim, I agree. I am just counting down the days till the weekend, when I can get the starter on the car. Once I do that nothing can stop me from firing her up!  :fastcar:
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress