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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Throwing a belt

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77turbopinto

I had a 78 Pinto with a cam that would not budge. I welded the correct sized bolt to a home made adapter to my slide hammer. The third bearing pulled out with the cam. Once I got it loose I removed the bearing off the cam, removed the cam and polished it, installed a new bearing, and put it all back together.

I don't know how the 2.0 aux. shaft goes in, but maybe a similar idea could work?


Bill
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Pintony

Hey Brad,
I like your idea!
Be sure to put plenty of padding on the body so you don't ding your Beautiful Pangra!!!

From Pintony

turbopinto72

Tony, I was using the bolt to try and turn the shaft. The only way to turn the shaft with the bolt is in the clock ways rotation i.e. tightening the bolt. However that did not turn the shaft. I might try and weld a 4 ft bar on a junk pulley and install the pulley over the shaft so I can utilize the key way and the bolt.
Brad F
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1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Pintony

Quote from: turbopinto72 on April 08, 2008, 09:59:52 PM
So, I put a 1/2 breaker bar on the Aux shaft and couldn't budge it. I thought I was going to snap the bolt off in the Aux shaft. Any good ideas I can try next ?????

Were you turning the bolt the correct direction?
The bolt should be loosened in a upward motion from the inner fender towards the engine block if turning from the top, under the hood.
The tightness of the bolt does not make sence??
I wonder if the 2 retaining screws to the retaining plate got loose and are all knarled up under the cover???
From pintony

crazyhorse

PB Blaster? Seafoam DeepCreep?

Find a way to turn it the opposite direction, maybe by the sprocket?
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turbopinto72

So, I put a 1/2 breaker bar on the Aux shaft and couldn't budge it. I thought I was going to snap the bolt off in the Aux shaft. Any good ideas I can try next ?????
Brad F
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1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

71pintoracer

OOOPS! The Pangra is a 2.0 isn't it!! OK, never mind the second part of that post because I've never had problems with the 2.0 dist gear. Go back to the first part-galled bearing.         
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If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Pintony

Quote from: 71 pintoracer on April 08, 2008, 03:30:30 AM
Sounds like the bearings have galled and siezed the shaft. I thinkl I remember you posting problems with oil pressure when you first got it running. It is possible that you hurt the cam bearings as well.  :(  There are two bearings that look just like cam bearings for the shaft. I never had an aux shaft seize,

There is only 1 bearing for the Aux. shaft on the 2.0 engine.
The rear of the aux. shaft rides in the block.
From Pintony

71pintoracer

Sounds like the bearings have galled and siezed the shaft. I thinkl I remember you posting problems with oil pressure when you first got it running. It is possible that you hurt the cam bearings as well.  :(  There are two bearings that look just like cam bearings for the shaft. I never had an aux shaft seize, when I raced 2.3's, the main problem was stripping the dist gear at high RPM. Esslinger and Walsh make a bronze gear and billit shaft but they are pricey. I just used the bronze gear and made shims to eliminate the up and down movement of the dist shaft. That is the main cause of the gear failure. They will tell you that the bronze gear will wear quickly on a stock shaft but I ran mine six years w/o a problem, turned that engine 8200. Anyway, look closely at the bearings, if they are damaged you may want to pop the cam out and check those too.  :hypno:
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

turbopinto72

He, he , he...... ;D I gots the big ole breaker bars..............
Brad F
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1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

crazyhorse

Are those roller bearings, or slip bearings like the cam?

I've never had the aux shaft out. I had an oil pump sieze & strip the disty gear though.

You may need a 1/2" socket & a big ole breaker bar. You're gonna hafta "unstick" it to get it out!
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turbopinto72

Well, I think I figured it out. I think H H was the winner. It would seem that if your Aux shaft is frozen it causes all kinds of problems .  >:(  >:(
After replacing the ( first belt) and hearing the tel tale sound of the teeth being striped off at the crank, I set out to replace the belt again. You ask, didn't you have to align the distributor. The ironic thing is, it failed exactally on the # 1 cly mark on the dist so, I thought ( don't do this at home) cool, I don't have to mess with that.  >:( >:( >:(.
Any way, after the second belt shredded. I figured sum thing was up.  >:( >:( >:( >:(
pulled off the belt and tried to turn the aux pulley ( no turny ), pulled the dist and hand turned the dist drive to see if the oil pump had failed ( nope ). however the aux shaft is like welded in and not turning.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(. So, Boys and Girls, how much fun do I have now......... >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(. Oh and its only 12 more days until  the Knotts show..........   :mad:  :mad:......................................... :'(
Brad F
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1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

High_Horse

TurboPinto72,
    Well..........Hmmmm....Have you checked your auxilary shaft???


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Srt

Quote from: Pintony on April 06, 2008, 08:30:44 AM

The 2.0 has a fixed tensioner it is not spring loaded after the 13mm bolt is tightened..
From Pintony
You're right.  I had forgotten about that bolt back in there.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

77turbopinto

Same with the 2.3: once the bolts are tight the spring does nothing.

I did research on timing belts a long time ago (when I got my first GoldWing in 1985) and all the documentation I found (wish I still had) stated that belts don't stretch that would ever make any difference in timing or adjustment. I have changed belts that had up to 100K on them and have never found a 'loose' one other than on a Honda GoldWing. The Clymer book has incorrect information on how to set the left belt; this is something I noticed the first time I did belts on one of mine and never did it wrong. Sense then, I have changed belts on a BUNCH of them for friends of mine, as well as on cars, and I always check the tension before removal of the old one and I have never found a 'loose' belt that was properly installed. I have never had to 're-adjust' a new belt on anything nor have I ever seen maintenance instructions that indicated the need for it on fixed adustment belts, but I have never worked on a 2.0 either.


Bill
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Pintony

Quote from: srt on April 06, 2008, 03:36:41 AM
i think that the tensioner should have taken care of that.  But, anyhting is possible.



The 2.0 has a fixed tensioner it is not spring loaded after the 13mm bolt is tightened..
From Pintony

Srt

Quote from: Pintony on April 06, 2008, 01:59:18 AM
Hey Bill,
Maybe NEW timing belts do not stretch but they need to be re-tightened after about 50-100 miles.
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i think that the tensioner should have taken care of that.  But, anything is possible.

I had one come off a friends '71 a couple of times while running at a SCCA Solo event. I thought,at first, that perhaps he had forgoten to install the (can't think of the proper name for this part) retainer(?) to the outside of the crank gear.  It was in place though.  It came off both times under hard deceleration into a turn (all the way out of the throttle) and they are very difficult to reinstall without removing the pulley.

Anyway, we got it back on and turned out another 15 or 20 laps that day with no other problems than a few spins at the last turn (a 180 degree hairpin out of a 45 degree left hander decelerating from about 60 mph to about 15 mph before entering a the long front straight)

I think the guys are right.  It probably was the sudden release of 'pull' on the belt that simulated a 'stretched' condition that allowed enough of a release of tension that it 'walked' itself off the pulley.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Pintony

Quote from: 77turbopinto on April 06, 2008, 01:36:43 AM
Timing belts don't stretch.

If you were able to "SEE" the belt I assume that there was no cover over it. I would look for evidence of forigen object damage. It could have been damaged for a while.


Bill
Hey Bill,
Maybe NEW timing belts do not stretch but they need to be re-tightened after about 50-100 miles.
From Pintony

77turbopinto

Timing belts don't stretch.

If you were able to "SEE" the belt I assume that there was no cover over it. I would look for evidence of forigen object damage. It could have been damaged for a while.


Bill
Thanks to all U.S. Military members past & present.

Pintony

Hey turbopinto72,

As long as everything is corrret as far as your pullys being in the right place and the corredt dirtection???
I agree with HH

High_Horse

TurboPinto72,
     50 miles is enough for a belt to stretch out from being in the box. You did not say what your decelation rpm was when you put your foot to the gas.  Assuming you know what you are doing and I think you do I suggest your belt went airborn. Considering the g forces plus the tug stretch the belt experienced a pulse that took it airborn for just a fraction of a milli-sec. The belt thought that was a good time to escape this badass turbo engine....but it couldn't pull it's bottom off of the crank pulley cause there is no room. If you look closely you might see some chaffing on some teeth close by the chunck absence. the chunk was probably where it caught back into mesh but was to far out of it's grip range...and...goodbye. I think it needed tightened a tad or more.

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crazyhorse

I've never actually had a motor throw a good T-belt. My guess would be to look VERY closely at your idler pulley. If it's not square it will run the belt off. Actually any non square pulley would do it, but considering the other 3 are bolted to shafts, this is the most likely.
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turbopinto72

OK, so I got the Wide band O2 sencer hooked up today and took the Pangra for a spin. Got it warmed up and then got on the freeway. Did some good boosted pulls on the freeway ( about 10-15 lbs boost). I had just got done with a little on the boost run and was decelerating back down to 65 mph when I put my foot back on the gas and there was nothing, no power no motor ?????. Got it down an off ramp , opened the hood and saw the timing belt was off the cam pulley??? weird, I've never thrown a timing belt before. The belt had about 50 miles on it and other than a chunk where it tore slipping off there was no other signs of a problem. Any one have this happen to them and if so, what was the cause?
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto