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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Modify your PCV System!

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earthquake

Hey Mike
   The boat is using an Evac system.This works the opposite of yours.The Evac only works at high RPM,above 3500.Not a streetable system.
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mikerich1972

 FYI: I checked out a mini hydroplane racer this past August. Guess what!! It's powered by a 2.3 L Pinto engine. AND, the engine is completely air (and water) tight! They are running the PCV system to the exhaust header, which provides adequate vacuum in the application!!
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dave1987

I love having the sealed cap on my motor, it really does make a difference in low end power (most noticeable on take off), at least on the 2.3. If you don't  believe me, try running your motor like this for about a month, then go back to using the stock cap and you will feel the change.

I noticed a DROP in gas mileage, so I don't regularly use it. However, I keep a sealed cap in my trunk with all of my emergency supplies so I can throw it on if I want to do some cookies in a parking lot this winter (and it does help :)).
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Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

mikerich1972

 Anyone else do this mod and have stories to share?
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mikerich1972

 Exactly as DAVE1987 said, on our Pintos, it is simply an oil filler cap conversion...

The long story is, however, that you should do all you can to seal up the engine in addition to changing the cap. For example, the oil mist eliminator, on the side of the block, may require removal and sealing. The rubber seals tend to be a bit sloppy after years of thermal cycles.

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Reed

I am still unfamiliar with my 200cc.  I need to investigate further I guess.
Looking for:  Rear and side window louvers for a 71 sedan, 15 inch aluminum slotted mags and tires (Ansen sprint style), and an Offenhauser dual-port intake for a 2000cc motor.

Srt

should be under the intake manifold plugged into the vapor canistor (?) that is stuck into the block
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Reed

Uh,I just looked and my 71 200cc motor doesn't even have a PCV valve.  No dice for me on this one....
Looking for:  Rear and side window louvers for a 71 sedan, 15 inch aluminum slotted mags and tires (Ansen sprint style), and an Offenhauser dual-port intake for a 2000cc motor.

dave1987

Basicly it's just an oil cap conversion.

Instead of using the "vented" one that leads back to the air cleaning through a hose, you are using a sealed cap.

I pulled the cap I was using off an old Chevy 350 motor in the salvage yard (which had a good seal). It is the cap on the valve cover.
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I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Reed

I am very interested in trying this, but still unclear as to how it is done.  How about a step-by-step walkthrough (with pictures?) of how you do this.  I have read the instructions several times, but I still don't get exactly what needs to be done.   ??? 
Looking for:  Rear and side window louvers for a 71 sedan, 15 inch aluminum slotted mags and tires (Ansen sprint style), and an Offenhauser dual-port intake for a 2000cc motor.

mikerich1972

 Any more news from other Pinto drivers on this?
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mikerich1972

 Anyone else besides Earthquake willing to try this?

Just curious since I haven't seen any more comments/complaints for a while!!!
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earthquake

My air filter wont allow this so I'm using a small breather filter that slips over the end of the hose.All this is temp till I get everything figured out anyways. 
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mikerich1972

  One way to reduce the dirt infiltration into the vacuum system would be to run the "bleed" hose end into the filtered air. In the case of an older Pinto, this could be done rather easily by running a longer tube into the air filter can, inside of the filter.

  Just a thought...

Mike
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1972 Harley Davidson FLH 1200
1972 Pontiac Firebird 350/350
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earthquake

Well it's been about a month now and heres what I have found out about this little trick and the results I've gotten so far. with all the tuning changes my fuel mileage has gone from about 16 to 17 in town to about 23,for a 6 to 7 mpg increase,very nice.And I think there is more to be had but tuning with this system can be a challenge.My next step will be a jet change,leaner and a power valve change,it seems to be running a little rich at this time.As for what I found out about this little trick,this is nothing new.Dirt trackers around here have been doing this for years free HP.But if you live in a dusty area unless you allow a small amount of air into the block it WILL draw air in past the seals,with the air comes DIRT.At idle my engine starts to make a sound like a belt slipping or a water pump bearing going out.As it turns out what I'm hearing is the air being drawn in through the aux shaft seal.Now for the fix,And Mike this should fix the prob with your Chevy.Pills are the answer.With my set up I have a bolt threaded into the hose on the cap to block it off,Tacky I know but it was an experiment.Next I got a couple more bolts and cut them into .75 in sections,then using wire drill bits drilled holes through the sections giving me the pills I needed.From there i just start with the smallest pill and work up till the problem stops.From there you just install a filter on the line you have the pill on to stop dirt from entering.The drawback to this is the air entering the block through the pill makes a little noise,very little but the filter seems to muffle it.More on this later as we are looking at installing an crankcase evac system for hi rpm as the other does nothing there.
     Doc.
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earthquake

I have been using denatured alcohol for years as a fuel system cleaner and octane booster,about 6 to 8 oz to the tank.As for fuel blends,If I'm seeing improvements with winter blends It should get better with the less volital burning summer blends.
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dave1987

So far so good. Engine is still running smooth and I'm actually seeing the MPG increase now. I filled my tank to the brim two days ago. With my regular driving around town, errands and work, it usually drops slightly below the full line. So far it hasn't budged! I will post again when I hit 3/4 tank.


Now while on the topic of improving gas mileage, does this trick actually work?

http://www.mdwholesale.com/Improving_gas_mileage.html
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

77turbopinto

You also need to consider that the gas formulas change for the summer right about now; this alone might have an effect on your milage.


Bill
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earthquake

Well at this point I have noticed an mpg increase..Yesterday I had to make a trip to Fall city was running late and did not have time to gas up.I knew I had enough to get to where I was going but would have to re fuel before going home.I was shocked to see that my fuel gauge had moved very little after getting to my destination.Well I figured I'd take a chance and just head home.I could not believe I still had fuel after getting back,and still was able to do some running around town after that.I figure I went 40 miles on 15 to 20 miles worth of fuel,I'm one happy camper.My speedo is off by 10 mph so I cant get exact,Anyone know a formula for calculating with speedo error.By the way,Thanks for the idea Mike,I'll keep you posted.
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dave1987

It seems, so far, that my MPG has dropped a bit. I do not know why or if it has anything to do with the tuning of the car. Vacuum pressure has not decreased or increased on my gauge (still getting 17-19) and I have not yet adjusted idle mixture or curb idle.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

mikerich1972

Sounds like you are definitely on the right track, Dave!

At idle, you probably won't be able to remove the cap. That's a good thing, and why this actually helps you out!

Now, keep a close eye on the MPG's, I would love to see your results posted here.

Mike
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1972 Harley Davidson FLH 1200
1972 Pontiac Firebird 350/350
2003 Ford Motorhome
2018 Ford Focus

dave1987

I went out to the pick-n-pull today and pulled some caps off some engines. I found one with a good seal and put it on. So far everything is okay.

Before with the stock cap I could pull the cap off without a problem, now I can't even get a good grip on it from so much vacuum. Good or bad?

I have noticed an increase in driveability though. I shift into third at 30mph instead of 25 and the engine definitely runs at a lower RPM when driving in town at 35.

I cannot tell if it has increase my MPG though, since I still need to readjust the idle mixture and the curb idle. I will update in a week to let you all know though.




This is on my 78 Sedan without the EGR valve and tube, running off a 4spd tranny and the 2.3l engine
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

earthquake

My over all low end seems to have improved a little.I can now use 5th gear at 35 instead of 40 to 45,and at that speed it seems to pull harder at 35 when you mash it than it did at 40 before.Most would call my car cantankerous on the street as it acts like a 2 stroke,No pull than tire rubber.This seems to have smoothed that out.It is not nearly as sudden as before.
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dave1987

what do you mean by a little more low end?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

earthquake

I set it up on my car today,Noticed a marked improvement in overall drivability,and it seems to have a little more low end as well.We will see how it goes from here.
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dave1987

I still plan to try it out, even if I do not understand it. I just need to get to a pick-n-pull to get a sealed cap. :)
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

mikerich1972

Quote from: dave1987 on April 01, 2008, 02:21:02 AM
So are you saying that by just capping off the vented oil cap with a sealing one will improve horsepower and MPG??

I do not see any logic in this.

Okay, so simply don't do it! Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

No loss for me.

Mike
1976 Pinto Wagon 2.3L
1972 Harley Davidson FLH 1200
1972 Pontiac Firebird 350/350
2003 Ford Motorhome
2018 Ford Focus

dave1987

So are you saying that by just capping off the vented oil cap with a sealing one will improve horsepower and MPG??

I do not see any logic in this.
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Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

apintonut

how about a diagram to explain this better?
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mikerich1972

Quote from: dave1987 on March 31, 2008, 08:17:07 PM
How about the hose where the PCV valve connects to to the block?

Definitely leave that in place! That is your vacuum source from the intake manifold to the block (crankcase).


Mike
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1972 Harley Davidson FLH 1200
1972 Pontiac Firebird 350/350
2003 Ford Motorhome
2018 Ford Focus