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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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krazi

what I do is list off a few other "dangerous" cars. chevy trucks and their saddle tank problem, the trunk floor in an old mustang is the top of the gas tank, and older pickups- doesn't matter what company- had the gas tank behind the seats. people are nuts!

krazi
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CHEAPRACER

I think you need a full size truck with a trailor hitch and leave the ball holder in. After 2 rear enders and I rear ended one, trust me, you'll be the one driving away.
Cheapracer is my personality but you can call me Jim '74 Pinto, stock 2.3 turbo, LA3, T-5, 8" 3:55 posi, Former (hot) cars: '71 383 Cuda, 67 440 Cuda, '73 340 Dart, '72 396 Vega, '72 327 El Camino, '84 SVO, '88 LX 5.0

Lost Coz

I guess the fire myth was about the hatchback models or so I was told. Since I drive a 73 wagon,  I think my chances of a fireball on the highway are rather slim then :lol:   Taking chances are what life is all about.  I heard that life causes death, does that mean that because I drive a Pinto when I'm not riding my Harley means my odds of dying have increased?  Man, I've owned a Pinto for over 30 years now and a Harley for over 40,  I guess my time must be getting short.  Oh Well!, I think I'll go for a cruise and think about it. ;D  I'll ride the bike so I won't have to worry about the fireball.
"Pintos are cool!"

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Smeed

Quote from: Tercin on November 25, 2007, 11:40:19 AM
  Having a Pinto is kind of like the Harley guys always say "If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand."
  When I told my wife I bought a Pinto she said "why a Pinto" She has never said anything pro or con since. My mother's first comment was "Don't they blow up?" My reply: Aw Ma.

Tercin

My mom grew up in the 70s and when I told her I planned on buying one she said she would never been seen in it :P Now that its actually in the yard she actually likes it. I got the same first reply too, except it was more like "No, Im not letting you drive something that dangerous!"

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Tercin

  Having a Pinto is kind of like the Harley guys always say "If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand."
  When I told my wife I bought a Pinto she said "why a Pinto" She has never said anything pro or con since. My mother's first comment was "Don't they blow up?" My reply: Aw Ma.

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apintonut

Quote from: maverick on November 24, 2007, 06:51:22 PM
you shoulda got a pic just so you could write OWNED at the bottom
i wish i could just find a pic of my old 75. yellow with black int, black hood
that car will be the lost love of my life.  all my life.   
i was about 18 when that hampend. there was no camera phones. shizod it was just a 40$ car that had 32,xxx what the f*** ill just get another.  lol, i wish!!! but that was my mentality at the time. my pinto 8 track racer. a 76 with 60,xxx was a free be. they were just cheap car's to me that i got teased for driving to school. 
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.

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popbumper

My wife named my Pinto.  Stupinto.  She does'nt get it either.
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popbumper

I don't fight the "myth". What I fight, with my wife, is that I owned a nice panel wagon back in 1993 - and dumped HER money into it at the time for a restoration (I was going to school, she was working), and when we moved to Texas, I had to leave it behind. She HATES the thought of me getting another one!! She just believes it's a waste of time, a piece of junk, etc. I used to have a 1957 Chevy that I did a frame off resto on, and got it to primer before selling it. She says "get another one of those". YAH RIGHT, completely rust eaten ripped up examples command $5K - just to get one to start with!! $5K would build an AWESOME Pinto...and it gets good gas mileage...and I know where a beautiful panel wagon is for $3200 complete, new paint, etc.....

>sigh< :(

Chris

PS - I don't want to give a bad impression of my wife, she's awesome. This is just one of those things I am REALLY trying to get her through....
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maverick

you shoulda got a pic just so you could write OWNED at the bottom

apintonut

i have driven a pinto for 10 year now. i have been rear ended about 6 time's. most very minor.
but one really good one buy a bran new ( at that time) just off the lot, not a day old, 2001 impala. i seen the lady stop way  back. then she went to pull up closer and never touched the brakes hit me at about 25-30 mph.  i think.    Bent my exhaust and cracked a tail light. her car was TOTALED could dent Bellevue it. the hood was buckled, the windshield was busted the bumper was on the ground. she was balling.  she had just got the car and hadn't put insurance on it and her husband had told her. "dont drive the car." 

well was i happy about crumple zones!!

i felt so bad for the lady i told her i wouldn't report it.   to just go put insurance on it and wait a few days the call in that she hit some one and they took off. dont know if it worked for her or not.

that accident has rid any fear's that i had driving the BBQ that seat four.

now i just use the excuse of fear of being rear ended and blown up to get out of speeding tickets.   (it works)
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
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wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.

77turbopinto

When someone asks or mentions it, Sometimes I just pretend like I never heard anything about it, and offer to give them the car because I am afraid to drive it. Strange how they will reach out to when I attempt to give them the keys. Sometimes I tell them the truth: it is just an 'urban legend'.

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Pintony

Quote from: High_Horse on November 21, 2007, 08:31:15 PM

I could only wish that I would have a different color Pinto to drive for each day of the week. ;)

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What R U trying to say MIKE? :P

High_Horse

Non-Pinto owners are usualy the ones who bring up the fire thing........Pinto owners usualy say things like....I miss my Pinto, I loved that car...I wish I had never gotten rid of it. 
Furthermore, In the last couple of years that I've had my Pinto back on the road I have gotten numerous thumbs up....Never a thumbs down.
I could only wish that I would have a different color Pinto to drive for each day of the week. ;)

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Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

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I know whenever someone asks me why I would want a car that would blow up when rear ended, I just mention the fact that my car was not one of the ones that blew up, and that the main bit of bac publisity came from the one that was rear ended by a full size van when the Pinto was stuck on the freeway with other issues causing it to stop running. Lets face it, if it weren't for that major accident when those people were killed in the Pinto it probably wouldn't get the bad press it did. I mean, look at the Crown Vic. It got all the bad press a few years ago, because cop cars were getting rear ended, exploding & killing cops.

Lastly, an important fact. Wherever you have gasoline vapors, metal & high rate of speed there is always a chance of explosion. EVERY gasoline car can blow up or catch fire & kill people. Pinto or not.

I'd say that's the only fact that wasn't mentioned back then, or was it?
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
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Smeed

You dont keep a hammer in your car to smash the window when the doors buckle shut? :P

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Pintony

I remember my parents saying that it would blow up because it did not have a flat trunk lid.
I TOTALLY agree with it being MYTH.
When I am at the shows I just point to my fire extuinguisher and say "I'm Covered"

From Pintony

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Cookieboystoys

here's a couple "legal" type documents you might find interesting...

Point of Law.com - The Myth of the Ford Pinto Case
http://www.pointoflaw.com/articles/The_Myth_of_the_Ford_Pinto_Case.pdf

and

THE FORD PINTO CASE:
THE VALUATION OF LIFE AS IT APPLIES
TO THE NEGLIGENCE-EFFICIENCY ARGUMENT
http://www.wfu.edu/~palmitar/Law&Valuation/Papers/1999/Leggett-pinto.html
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

maverick

i was just wondering out of curosity, but what defence do you guys usually have when people seem to only know the pinto as that car that would explode with the lightest touch?

dont get me wrong, thats not an opinion I have. but when ever i bring up pintos and tell people that i think there a cool car people jump right in and try to tell me what a fiery POS they are...

from what i understand only like 20 people ever dies in a pinto fire which doesnt seem like that many considering how many were on the road. im sure just as many if not more people have been burned up in other cars that were never as infamous.

anyway, i was hoping some of the gurus here could shead some light on this little misconception for me, from one blue oval fan to another.

thanks