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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Car is Overheating! HELP!

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Trigger01

LIke I said above I forgot to get more coolant while I was at the auto parts store, so I picked it up Friday on the way home, but it was still raining. I put it in on Saturday morning  think I would be able to drive it out to my parents house. that didn't happen. The guy at AutoZone gave me the wrong gasket. I ordered a new one(hopefully the correct) on Saturday and picked it up today. I won't have a chance to tear into it until Thursday. I am hopeing this will fix, I really wanna drive my Pinto!
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Trigger01

Alrighty, sorry i haven't gotten back with ya'll I've had Finals and papers this past week.

Tonight I replaced the thermostat, that was messy! lotsa greese! I forgot to get more coolant at AutoZone the 2x I was there today. I am gonna get it tomorrow and teat it out this weekend, Thanks for the help and I'll let yall know how it works out.
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High_Horse

CookieBoy,
     Rule of thumb. Install the overflow tank...make sure the tube goes to within a 1/4 inch of the bottom...fill the tank to 1/3 rd...mark that level with magic marker...fill the radiator to top put cap on...drive car for 1/2 hour and let cool over night...check level the next day( the fluid should be gone or lower because of compensation to cooling system for air comming out)...fill again to level if needed or leave alone if at level.
The overflow tank also enables you to run distilled water in your cooling system without buying more all the time...those minerals in tap water do collect around the openings of the rad. channel and render a radiator useless in from three to five years.
Also, the overflow tank will let you know if you have a pressure leak because the level will go down due to the replenishment of coolant to the cooling system.
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Cookieboystoys

Quote from: 77turbopinto on September 11, 2007, 09:15:53 PM
I plan to put them on my cars (soon) to CATCH coolant; leave it empty, but have the can there to catch the occasional burp so it it does not harm the environment or motorcyclists.

Bill

I hadn't thought of that... worth considering and I like your reasoning...

High Horse, you have some good points there...

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

High_Horse

CookieBoy, The radiator will drip to a certain extent because it is supposed to if the pressure in the cooling system is exceeding your 13 pound radiator cap. The reason that they started putting tanks on cars it to keep the anti-freeze drip off from killing the earth. When you shut the car off and the cooling systen cools down then the collected coolant is sucked back into the engine because of contraction. Just because your car did not come with a coolant bottle does not mean it would not be good to put one on. It would save you dough on coolant and rid your ride of that unwanted air in thesystem. which does nothing to cool the engine.
Tigger01, If your car overheated then your themostat is junk and should be replaced. Thermostats will retemper to whatever higher cooling system fluid temp. that they are forced to be exposed to....for whatever reason. People often fix the problem and then assume the therm stat is still ok....well it is not.

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77turbopinto

Cookieboy,

I agree that they are not "needed" for proper operation of the car.  I plan to put them on my cars (soon) to CATCH coolant; leave it empty, but have the can there to catch the occasional burp so it it does not harm the environment or motorcyclists.

Bill
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Cookieboystoys

Hey Douglass, I did add an overflow tank but removed it shortly after installing it.... let's see if I can explain why I found it to cause a new problem that I didn't like, provided no benefit and was a waste of time...

Let's start here.... I got the overflow tank from the 1980 Pinto I scrapped, I had never personally recalled seeing an overflow on any of my previous Pinto's so I was puzzled and decided to keep and try it out. Got it installed and worked as expected... kind of...

Next... my understanding of an overflow tank is that when extra antifreeze needs to escape from the radiator due to normal heat caused by running the car it then has someplace to go instead of the ground... Once the car cooled down the tube going into the overflow would allow the extra antifreeze to be sucked back into the radiator and I would always have a full radiator... sounds good right???

Now here's the problem I didn't like... the Pinto always smelled like hot antifreeze whenever I would drive it to full operating temp. The steaming hot antifreeze would escape from the radiator and go into the overflow as expected and I could smell it while driving or just standing next to the car. I didn't like that. That's why I removed it and have no desire to install one again.

Also to consider... none of my current or past Pinto's had overflow tanks that I recall, fluid in the radiator was always the same... just a bit above the coils and nothing would leak out and the cars never had overheating issues. Worse case scenario I had with my car and potential overheating was... I was in the local parade with the 73 on a hot sunny day with it doing nothing more than idle for almost 30 minutes without it overheating. I did vapor lock in the carburetor but my temp stayed at acceptable levels and I firmly believe I didn't overheat. I was able to get the car started again by removing the fuel lines, tapping on the carb and working the throttle back and forth... car was still hot when I got it running again... and it started right up and ran well.

I may be wrong but I would suggest Ford knew what they were doing when they didn't put overflow tanks on most Pinto's as they really aren't required. I only say most because I have seen 1 that did, but who's to say someone didn't add it somewhere along the line.

Please keep in mind this is just my opinion based on my experience... Not! rule of law according to cookieboy  ;)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

douglasskemp

Tip for Cookieboy:  Get an overflow tank.  To keep that from happening again, plus giving your coolant system more capacity making it essentially larger.  On my 79, we got a universal unit from Checker (same as Schucks and Kragen) Auto Parts.  You could even be sneaky and put it under the fender behind the headlight.

For Trigger01:  All the suggestions so far are good, I dont suppose that when the timing belt was replaced that you replaced the water pump and thermostat as well?  Just a thought.  I know it's a bit late now, but I recommend doing so to anyone I know.  I mean if you're going to have the front of the motor torn down that far anyway, might as well.

Another thing, try getting the car hot when it is setting there and see where it is leaking.  An easy way to do this is to cover the grille opening with a towel or blanket to keep air from passing over the radiator fins.  BE VERY CAREFUL NOT TO GET IT INTO THE ENGINE BAY.  This will make it heat up fairly quickly, helping you locate the source of the offending steam source.  We want you to be safe and enjoy your car.  Also, make sure you don't make a bad situation worse.  If it really is overheating, obviously you don't want to hurt your Pinto.
Good luck to you!
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Cookieboystoys

Bill and Crazyhorse both offer good suggestions... but here is something that happened to me w/my 1980 pinto....

first off car overheated and blew the headgastet so I fixed the head gasket and the leaking radiator that caused the problem was swapped out. Radiator fluid was filled up "to the top" and lots of little trips to see if all was good... and all seemed fine until...

I took that first long drive... and steam kept coming out from under the hood... the answer was simple... I filled the radiator "to full" and the extra would come out the overflow and leak down the side of the radiator, fan would "suckup" the anti-freeze and spray it all over the hot engine and cause the steam effect...

I find w/my pinto's anyhow that just enough anti-freeze to cover the tops of the coils (for lack of a better/correct word) as you look down into the radiator is normal. If you fill the radiator to just below the fill hole... the extra leaks out and could cause the steam...

I had forgotten about overfilling Pinto radiators since I hadn't had one in 10 years or so but that experience reminded me quick.

Might also want to check hoses and clamps... since you didn't mention the engine light coming on to indicate over heating (I know they're idiot lights and shouldn't be trusted but...) might also be as simple as a clamp not tight enough and leaking once it gets hot and leaking on say... the exhaust... right below the heater core lines... since you did do timing belt, fuel pump and oil leak fixed before the problem started it might be worth checking anything you disconnected to get at the parts replaced or fixed...

not sure if any of that would help but might be worth checking... doesn't cost anything but time to look.
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crazyhorse

12mi is about how long it'd take for a stuck thermostat to overheat a car. Unfortunately it's also how long a bad waterpump takes.
Personally I'd start with the T-stat. You know simple/cheap things first.
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Trigger01

First off; What EXACTLY is it doing?

Steam coming out of the engine bay.
Is it literally boiling over, or does the light come on or the gauge read high?

It did on Saturday, and I let it cool down and added a little water to refill.

Have you done any maintenance to the car lately?

Car hasn't had any maint. in the last 2 1/2 weeks. Before that Timing belt replace fuel pump and oil leak fixed
Have you made ANY changes to the car?

New Radiator cap.
Have you checked the coolant level?

Yes, it's ok.

Do you have coolant in the oil?

haven't checkedIs there steam coming out the exhaust?

Not that I noticed
Is there a "milkshake" looking goop in the valvecover?

Don't think so.

How does the fanbelt look?

Good. I think it's new too.

Has this been a problem that has been going on for a while, or more acute in nature?

Since Saturday. Only noticed it 2x, on trips over 12 miles.
Have you tried to fix this issue, and if so, what did you do ans what was the result?
New radiator cap and didn't fix it, thought it might have something to do with the pressure...

-Mike
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77turbopinto

Quote from: Trigger01 on September 10, 2007, 08:04:38 PM
My car is over heating. What do I need to check and any ideas how I can fix it? I don't reall have the money to take it to a repair shop.

Thanks,
      ~Mike

First off; What EXACTLY is it doing?

Is it literally boiling over, or does the light come on or the gauge read high?

Have you done any maintenance to the car lately?

Have you made ANY changes to the car?

Have you checked the coolant level?

Do you have coolant in the oil?

Is there steam coming out the exhaust?

Is there a "milkshake" looking goop in the valvecover?

How does the fanbelt look?

Has this been a problem that has been going on for a while, or more acute in nature?

Have you tried to fix this issue, and if so, what did you do and what was the result?

Bill
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Trigger01

My car is over heating. What do I need to check and any ideas how I can fix it? I don't reall have the money to take it to a repair shop.

Thanks,
      ~Mike
-Mike
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1978 Pinto Runabout
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4-speed manual trans.

Daily Driver:
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