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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Project Shur'tug'al [AKA 75 Pinto street toy]

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hellfirejim

I know a flurry of posts but here is the latest update.  I also ordered my 2" dropped spindles for the front plus some longer stainless front brake lines from speedway.  They are good people there and a good place to look for parts. 

Anyway the story goes that this dropped spindle setup was originally designed for the 11" brake conversion but was found to work just fine if you want to keep the 9" brakes.  I do because they are new.  It will require some clearencing on the brake caliper but nothing special.  What is a little clearencing when the rest of car has all custom parts anyway??????

peace
jim
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hellfirejim

Ahhh the excitement of buying parts.  I just ordered the fuel cell and mounting kit.  I have made arraignments to have the new 8" center section put together and made arraignments to have my cylinder head done.  Of course this is tempered by the fact there i still snow on the ground and i have an "outdoor" garage but i will be getting warmer soon enough and i will be ready to go.
peace
jim

PS: I have decided to mount the fuel cell in the hatch but will have a steel cage around it with aluminum sheeting to seal it off and protect it from that pass area.  The actual fuel and return lines will be out the bottom and protected from hitting anything underneath.  Only the venting and the actual fill will be above the floor and of course the sending unit.
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hellfirejim

Well I think i should start with the good news, I just went through a new type of chemo and that went well but we did have a bit of a problem with a reaction to the Pre-meds that put put me into intensive care.  But i am home and all is cool.

Now even better news I just got my tax refund back so I am ordering some more parts and buying a 77 Rallye.  I will be taking most of the interior but it drives good with a 4 spd and has the rallye wheels.  Anybody wants the rest of the deal when i am done I would like to get $300. for the car and i will through in the rallye wheels too.  Word of caution it does have front floor rot and maybe some into the front frame rails but a good drive train.

Anyway i am excited about starting the new year and getting this car mechanically done.
peace
jim
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hellfirejim

thank you i will talk with her and see what she wants to do.  i will pass on the congrates of her birthday and pinto ownership. 

BTW: here name is Kris.....
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popbumper

Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

75bobcatv6

yes jim its 20 dollars for teh charter membership and congrats to the granddaughter on the pinto ownership and being 16

hellfirejim

is that what it costs to join??  Been so long i forgot.
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popbumper

Jim:

  Tell you what - you have been an inspiration out here despite your health issues, and I have enjoyed speaking with you on a few occasions. Mention joining the group to your granddaughter, and if she wants to, I'd be willing to pony up the $20 so she can join. LMK what you think!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

hellfirejim

that is an excellent idea.  I hadn't thought of that....

jim
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dga57

Jim,
Another thought... why don't you ivite her to join us here at the PCCA?  You know she'd be welcome!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dga57

Best of luck with that new treatment, Jim.  And tell you granddaughter  :happy_bday:  for all of us!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

popbumper

AWesome Jim! Rocky Horror Picture Show - what a hoot! Congrats, I think that's great. This is a good time of the year for birthdays, hers was yesterday, mine is TODAY!

Always wishing you well in your struggle. You're gonna be just fine. We'll chat again once my pinball stuff slows down. Cheers!

Chris
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hellfirejim

Yesterday was one of those special days.  I was at my grandaugher's 16th birthday party.  I got her a t-shirt from the rocky horror picture show.  She was so happy she did a happy dance. 

I then pulled out a plain envelope and gave it to her.  It had a chicago bears key fob [her team] but on the key fob was a brand new key to pinto. yes it was her key for HERR pinto.  After it sunk in what it was, she was so happy she vibrated.  Just to see such pure joy made my heart smile.

i also found out that her and here father had already made plans for them to come out and work on the car this year.  Beyond a father and daughter deal it will allow them to get to know the the car.

i just couldn't be happier.  As if that wasn't enough I got the final ok to start my new aggresive chemo treatment starting thursday coming up.....

Life is good!!!!
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hellfirejim

Good pinto news.  I go get my taxes done tonight.  when the refund comes in I get to start collecting parts for this year.  Can't wait....
jim
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hellfirejim

Quote from: Mike Modified on January 31, 2010, 05:21:05 PM
No, you didn't.   :amazed:

You know, of course, that it won't work on the 5.0.   :o

It would work really nicely on my 2.3T though.   :evil:

Mike

yeah it is one of those twin scoll deals without an internal waste gate.   A 23T was where it was going.  I know of course it won't work on a 302 but maybe it might work on a 331??? :surprised:

Do you have a T3/T4 combo unit?   

jim
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Mike Modified

Quote from: hellfirejim on January 31, 2010, 04:54:25 PM
did I mention I still have my Holset 35>>>>  8)

No, you didn't.   :amazed:

You know, of course, that it won't work on the 5.0.   :o

It would work really nicely on my 2.3T though.   :evil:

Mike

hellfirejim

Quote from: Mike Modified on January 28, 2010, 11:12:45 AM
Trade that V8 for a 2.3T  ;D

Mike

I knew somebody would put that in there... :smile: It really is a matter of cost and time.  I have the major pieces and part of the swap kit. Besides I have been down the 2.3 path but I have to be honest I miss the rumble of 500+ horsepower........................... :lol:

did I mention I still have my Holset 35>>>>  8)
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Mike Modified

Quote from: hellfirejim on January 27, 2010, 06:16:31 AM
This is not about my pinto but something i picked up because it was just too good to not get.  it is a 94 ranger and it came with a 5.0 V8 and a C4 transmission for $800.  it is not perfect, actually it is what we call a 20 footer.  looks good at 2o feet.  Body is good just needs some TLC.  glas and interior are good so no complaints.
 
just sharing.. ;)

http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/hellfirejim/94%20ranger/

peace
jim
PS:  Pinto stuff... i justt got a rear window gasket from Frank and i had a rear hatch rubber from Bill so i pull yhr hatch off and clean it down to bare metal and attach my spoiler for real with panel bonding epoxy.  I need the rear window pulled to both of these.  the list just keeps getting longer.... :read:

Trade that V8 for a 2.3T  ;D

Mike

hellfirejim

Dwayne, I have really noticed how much cheaper it is for parts and stuff than my Pinto.  In some cases at 50% less.  Unfortunately it has to sit until the Pinto reaches the next stage so i can pass it on to my grand daughter.

jiim
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dga57

Jim,
Nice looking truck for the money.  My best friend recently bought a '94 Ranger XLT extended cab 2WD with 2.8L/5 spd.  The body on it looks like new and the seats were intact but dirty - cleaned up great.  It had to have a new headliner but that was only $142 installed.  Truck is amazingly smooth and tight in spite of the fact it has 141,000 miles.  He paid $1500 for it and considers it a bargain.  Runs a lot cheaper than his Hummer H2, and that was his point in buying it.  Has probably already paid for itself in gasoline savings!
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

This is not about my pinto but something i picked up because it was just too good to not get.  it is a 94 ranger and it came with a 5.0 V8 and a C4 transmission for $800.  it is not perfect, actually it is what we call a 20 footer.  looks good at 2o feet.  Body is good just needs some TLC.  glas and interior are good so no complaints.
 
just sharing.. ;)

http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/hellfirejim/94%20ranger/

peace
jim
PS:  Pinto stuff... i justt got a rear window gasket from Frank and i had a rear hatch rubber from Bill so i pull yhr hatch off and clean it down to bare metal and attach my spoiler for real with panel bonding epoxy.  I need the rear window pulled to both of these.  the list just keeps getting longer.... :read:

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hellfirejim

I am getting old :sleep:, I forgot to mention that I will be putting 2" dropped spindles on the front, Opening up the rear wheel wheels slightly to accomadate bigger tiers and upgrading the alt.

Ok way to medicine :lost:, I also forgot that I will be having the cyl head done with a clean up Port & Polish with a mill job to get the compression up to 9 to 1 and a bigger street cam.

one more time.....
peace
jim
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hellfirejim

Well it is almost christmas as i write this.  Been one hell of a year for me and my pinto.  We both have come a long way.  Between engines and transmissions and such blowing up I still managed to get it to the car show in the fall in the town just north of here.  All things considered pretty cool.  but I have to say the best thing that happened was getting it straight that my granddaughter absolutely loves the Pinto and I am going to leave it to here to carry on. I just couldn't be happier.

As for me I would say the most important part is that i am still here.  Can't bitch about that.  I also got to meeet a lot of new Pinto people and that was real important also.  One final point is that for the first time in 5 years I was not in the hospital recovering from some sort of surgury... :lol:


But most of all I am looking forward to next year.   I am going to finish the car off mechanically so I can start on the rest of the car to make it better.  My goals are , fuel cell, fuel injection, new ignition, and hopefully a C4 trans to complete the drive train.  At that point it will be a sweet reliable daily driver type car that was built to have fun.  Oh yeah I almost forgot my posi 4:10 rear center section...

So to all of you working on your cars keep the faith as it has taken 2 years to get to this point with many more to come I am sure.  The best part about this is the journey.  Meeting all the Pinto people, looking for parts and such is just a lot of fun and helps keep me sane or as close as I get.

So Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.  Old school I know but don't forget the reason for the season. 

I hope you get all the goodies you have asked for from Santa.

peace,
jim

PS Here is a picture of my baby patentienly waiting till spring to bring the sun, warmth and new parts.

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hellfirejim

Thanks, I do visit at least once a day to see what is up....  Got to get my daily Pinto fix. :lol:

jim
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smallfryefarm

Jim seems seasons go by quick any more youll be back on her before you no it. you still need to hand around here with us though. looking forward to seeing her back on the ground soon.
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hellfirejim

Well this is my annual fall post.  it is that time of the year when i have to put my little pony up on jack stands with a car cover for the winter as i do not have a garage.  This year it is interesting as we have gone through a lot of mechanical difficulties and issues but came out with a running car.  this also brings me to the point where i am happy and sad at the same time.  Sad because i can no longer work or run the car and i will miss her.   On the other hand i know that in  about 4 months or so i will be able to start collecting all the parts for next year using my income tax refund check.

The goal for next year is simple and that is to complete the mechanical part of this ride. one i want to make it a good driver and two i want to get started on the rest of the car as the mechanical part has taken waaaay too long.

This is the plan:

Engine:
1. I plan to have the head gone over by JD Larramme with a basic port and cleanup, possible bigger valves and a little bit better street cam.
2. I will modify the intake manifold to better work with the EFI that is going on.
3. I will be adding a complete throttle body EFI kit that is complete with custom burned Prom.
4. Along with the EFI I am taking down the stock fuel tank anf it's issues and replacing it with a 12 gal fuel cell complete with sending unit and fittings.  Some people would say that is small but the stock tank is only 13 gals so no loss.

Rear:
1. I have all the parts in hand for a 4:10 gear with a new posi in my high srength center section for my 8" rear.

Trans:
1. If that goes well, the I will put in a V8 C-4 with the new bellhousing.

That basically is the end of the mechanicals except that i will be adding 2" dropped spindles with new steel braided brake lines to drop the front a bit.

So if all that works out I am then going to open up the front of the rear wheel well openings so i can put on 29" tires.  How wide i don't know just yet, hopefuly about 10"s.

I know it is a lot and that is why i am looking forward to it.  here are a couple of pictures of the Pinto ready for the winter's nap.





I also owe you the pictures from the turbo ford meet.
http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/hellfirejim/TurboFord%2009/

Sorry for the length of post but unless somehting comes up You probably won't see another till feb or march.

take care
jim
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hellfirejim

Yeah it is a shift light but the neat part is it is movable so you can swing it down and to the right so it does show.  It is not the big as the face of the tach is i believe 3 5/8 or something close so the blue light is fairly small and will move so it is hidden.  Just better fits the theme of the car and i saw it for $95 i think at summit or jegs.
jim

PS: Just got back from vacation and i have some picturers of the fordmeet i went to.  Everything was turboed...great fun anf great people.  Might be a bit on the pictures but they are coming.
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discolives78

cool tach, Jim! Is that big blue thing a shift light?

:afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

hellfirejim

Morning, this post is more of a heads up.  I am just about to go on vacation for a couple of weeks and part of the trip is to go to my buddy's place in South Carolina where we are going to assyemble a 8" rear.  it has a High rib case with a 4:10 gear and new posi traction.  Instead of just getting a 5 gallon pail i decided to do it right and get a carrying case to bring the rear center section home.  I first ordered a horizontal case from Summit.  What a POS.  poorly made and didn't fit.  I then ordered a vertical case (JAZ) and it is exactly what i need.  So save your time and money and order the vertical case.

oh and yes i am really looking forward to my trip...... :lol:
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PCCA Pinto Number #385


hellfirejim

sorry been a little late on posting this but this is what my dash looked like when i was trying to re-install my instrument cluster.  Why????  Because i didn't stop and think. it started with a speedo cable so i just kept taking things apart to get better access until I stopped and thought.  I opened the hood and looked at the speedo cable.  Since I had changed things around in the engine compartment the speedo cable was rubbinmg so I CLAMPED it to hold it out of the way.  Noticed the capitalized word.  After I unclamped it was a piece of cake... you would think that after 45 years of this stuff..... :rolleye:  Oh well humble pie never hurt anyone.  here are the pictures.





this is what it looks like now.



This is the tach i found that better fits my theme of the car.

It's a good day to be alive!
PCCA Pinto Number #385