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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Project Shur'tug'al [AKA 75 Pinto street toy]

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dga57

Quote from: hellfirejim on July 28, 2010, 08:45:27 PM
just a note, i had the first of two procedures today.  it went very well.  In about 2 weeks when the radiaition gets here we will do the other part. 
peace
jim

Hang in there, Jim!  We're all pulling for you!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

popbumper

Awesome Jim, thanks for the updates, you know we are all pulling for you!!!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

r4pinto

Jim,

Here's hoping things go well with the 2nd part. Glad to hear the 1st part went so well for ya. I will keep you in my thoughts & prayers.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

hellfirejim

just a note, i had the first of two procedures today.  it went very well.  In about 2 weeks when the radiaition gets here we will do the other part. 
peace
jim
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dga57

Quote from: hellfirejim on July 26, 2010, 05:44:45 AM
I have what sounds like bad news but is really good news. :o

I have to back off the Pinto work for a while as I am going to try a new procedure.  I know tha sounds like a bad thing but in reality it is not because if this procedure works as advertised then it will have a very positive affect on the outcome of the my war.

Not getting excited as i have been down that road before.  We shall see but there is hope after over 5 years of this stuff.

We shall see.

peace
jim

Jim,

Here's wishing you the very best!  As they say, "Nothing ventured, nothing gained!"  Keep us posted.  We care.

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

I have what sounds like bad news but is really good news. :o

I have to back off the Pinto work for a while as I am going to try a new procedure.  I know tha sounds like a bad thing but in reality it is not because if this procedure works as advertised then it will have a very positive affect on the outcome of the my war.

Not getting excited as i have been down that road before.  We shall see but there is hope after over 5 years of this stuff.

We shall see.

peace
jim
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Srt

The 1st year I owned my Pinto in '71 my girlfriend & I put on almost 45000 miles....Just Driving!  No where in particular...just driving.  Great times!

Quote from: dga57 on July 18, 2010, 10:50:44 PM
Sounds like good advice to me, Jim.  I think sometimes people get so caught up in the work, that they forget the goal of actually driving and enjoying the car!
Thanks for sharing!

Dwayne :smile:
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

russosborne

Drive the car?!
We are supposed to be able to drive these things?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That's a good one guys. You really had me going there for a minute.

yes, it has been one of those days.

Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

dga57

Sounds like good advice to me, Jim.  I think sometimes people get so caught up in the work, that they forget the goal of actually driving and enjoying the car!
Thanks for sharing!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

today's post is going to be a little different.  Not your normal i did this stuff but perhaps some insight I can share with those just starting on this journey of Pintodom....i won't be offended if you just move on.

To those of you still left the best way to explain this is a line from a kenny rogers song, "You got to know when to fold them".  No I am not done with the Pinto but one of the projects.  i replaced my front bumper with a 77 aluminum bumper and it was a piece of cake.  the rear is proving to be awhole different matter.  The first thing I did wrong was pull off the rear bumper before i had the next bumper ready to go.  this is a good lesson to remember.

I have been trying to make pieces to fit but it is a hard deal particularly with the heat we have been experiencing.  Yesterday I decided enough was enough and I was going to put the stock bumper back on.  i got everything ready and this am early 7:30.  I was out back trying to juggle the 40lb bumper into place with a floor jack.  I wasn't doing too good of a job.  I noticed across the street that a couple of guys were setting up to trim some trees behind the store so i walked over and asked if they would mind helping me to jocky it into place.  No problem.  I got the bolts started in a couple of minutes and then finished installing the bumper. 

The next thing I did was probably the most important, i took it out for a drive to nowhere.  yes i just took it out and enjoyed the car.  There is something special about driving our little cars.  good for the head.

So what did we learn?  first before you tear it apart be sure that the new piece is ready to go if possible.  Unless it is a saftety issue do what will give the most bang for the effort.  A lot of small things will sometimes give you more satisfaction than one major.  I know this is not always possible but when you can it is a good policy to follow.  probably the best advice is not to keep them torn down for too long as driving them is still the best part even though they are not finished.

So hang in there and do what you can but remember we are doing this so we can enjoy the pleasure of driving them.

Ok enough for now, i promise the next time i will have something else done....
Peace
jim
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dga57

Quote from: hellfirejim on July 16, 2010, 05:38:43 AM
As some of you know I have some health issues.  I am happy to report we had a small victory yesterday.  The war is not over but we kicked them in the butt..... :lol:

peace
jim

Jim,

The war may not be over, but it sounds like you won the battle.  Give 'em Hell!  Glad things are looking up!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

As some of you know I have some health issues.  I am happy to report we had a small victory yesterday.  The war is not over but we kicked them in the butt..... :lol:

peace
jim
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popbumper

Jim:

  Glad to see you chugging along and keeping up. I >TITALLY< relate to "not even wanting to look at it", good grief, some days I am SO overwhelmed, and with Summer temperatures at 100+, I could care less. This Fall promises to be active.

  Stay well Jim, thanks for keeping us on top of your progress.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

hellfirejim

matt,
I understand how you feel as there are times i don't even want to look at it.  What i have done is make a list of what i want to do and when I go out there I pick something off the list [big or small] and just work on it till i am tired.  some days it may only be a half an hour.  other days it could be most of the day, just depends.  If you follow that, then sooner or later you start accomplishing things and that motivates you to keep going.

Anyway it works for me.  Good luck with your car.

peace
jim
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r4pinto

Jim,

the car is really coming along! I have been following along on your updates on the car & I am impressed. I wish I had your motivation to get working on my car, so it would be done, but I don't
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

hellfirejim

Thanks russ,

This car has been a god send.  Whenever it gets bad I just go out and work on the car as there is always something to do.  it takes my head to another place if only for a few hours.

Life isn't always easy but it most definately is what you make of it.  keep at it.
peace
jim
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russosborne

Jim,
Just wanted to say you are doing an awesome job! Took me two days to read all this (at work between working).
You are a real inspiration. I have a niece who is now coming up on 6 years since they found a tumor in the back of her head(medulla blastoma or something, I don't remember) and she is 5 years cancer free and starting high school. So I have some clue how hard it must be for you at times.
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

hellfirejim

Here is the last installment on the great carb swap.  I painted the accel cable bracket and made a new copper vacuum line for the trans with 2 adel clamps to hold it.  i contacted Vee Dub Parts Unlimited [vwparts.net] and ordered an EMPI air cleaner 1 3/4 inches tall.  It is not an exact fit but really close  I had to use longer bolts and nylocks.  It also has a hole and fitting [included] for the pcv hose which I am not using as I use another system.

Anyway it is on, clears the hood and looks great. 
jim

PS: they have taller air filters also.



here is a link for two more pictures.  One more thing done.

http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/hellfirejim/Pinto%20Carb/
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hellfirejim

When i put it back together it would barely idle and ran rough.  I did the trick of spraying around the base of the carb and sure enough it changed so i had a vacuum leak.  Took it back apart, resealed it and put it back together.  Much better but still had the bog when I hit the accel.  I replace the accel pump diaphram and that helped a little but it still wasn't right. 

The main deal was I couldn't see the accel pump shot.  So I pulled the carb back off and tore into it.  Now keep in mind I am working with a holley 2brl built for Ford and is progressive.   I am not the smartest guy when it comes to carbs and I had never seen the inside of this one.  So I pulled the top off and I finally got the air to blow through the feed holes to the accel pump.  I had a feeling that it was not as simple as that so I pulled off the sqirters and tried to blow throw them and couldn't.  As fate would have it I still had the carb from my 75 and the squirters worked well.  Anyway I put it all back together and it started and ran like it should except is was rough.  Number one header pipe was not as hot as the rest so I pulled number one plug and it had not been firing.  I had another old set of spark plug wires and I grabbed one and check for resistance.  Put it on and it smoothed out.  Now it is responsive, idles clean and in gear it idles at 800rpm.

Most of this was just basic mechanics and a little bit on knowledge of carbs along with a whole lot of luck.  :amazed:  BUT I got it done and it works.  Now i have to order the air cleaner for it.  it will cost $16 plus shipping.

I am glad I didn't have to pay somebody to do this.  :lol:

peace
jim
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hellfirejim

Ok here is the more as it happened this weekend.  I adapted the adapter to fit and mounted the carb.  I had to make a new linkage mount.  it is made but not made 'pretty' yet.  You can see a copper tube and that is to extend the vacuum hose for the mod valve.  everything is temp mount.  it starts fine but it has a leaking accel pump diaphram from sitting.  As soon as i get that fixed it should be fine.



here is the link to all the pictures.

http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/hellfirejim/Pinto%20Carb/

PS: I know they made aftermaket air cleaner for the 5200 carb, anybody got a line on one?????
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hellfirejim

As long term projects go this one has stayed pretty close to what i started with the exception of the final turn of events with my grand daughter.  Because of that I have made some mid-course adjustments to get the car ready for her.   It now appears that I need to make another adjustment and that is in the carb.  It looks like i am switching to a 2barrel carb sometime soon.  a lot of reasons but basically to improve the drivability of the car for her.

more when it happens.

peace
jim
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hellfirejim

first i want to acknowledge that the views for this little thread are now over 20,ooo.  amazing, simply amazing.

Well it has been an interesting weekend.  I put the pony back down on all fours to drive it before my granddaughter came out.  it wouldn't start.  no fuel pressure.  The first thing I did was add some gas.  Fuel gauge not working.  Then I starting goin back through the fuel system to see where there was fuel and when I got to the rubber line between the metal tank fuel line and the fuel pump I discovered that all the rubber hoses had been changed before, this was the only one not changed.   :hypno: yeah I don' have answer for that either.  anyway I fixed it and it started but just didn't run right. It wouldn't clear itself out.  I first checked the plug and the coil but no change.  I then went to my 77 parts car and stole the spark plug wires and that fixed it.  this is of course dodging rain drops and 90% humitity.  Runs better now.

peace
jim
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hellfirejim

Dueto a family emergency my son-in-law is spending this month with me so i put him to work.  We went up to the 77 parts car and stripped it of interior parts and bumpers.  Now I just have to get it installed.  i will take pictures of what is happening but I can tell you that i got the good sporty steering column complete.  going to be a major change in appearance.

more to come shortly.

peace
jim
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hellfirejim

not a whole lot to report as it has been raining continiously.  I did get the piece of metal I needed to mount the fuel cell.  I just have to get it fitted and welded in.  I am also going to try and get the rear bumper mounted also but more rain is scheduled.  Damn i wish i had a garage...... :mad:

On the good news My grand daughter is coming out this weekend and the first thing out of her mouth was can she drive the Pinto.  She just got her learners permit.  I figure why not, it is her car.

peace
jim
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hellfirejim

yeah i like it.  Now i have to do the back.  the part i like is it gets rid of close to 75-80 lbs of weight at the extreme end of the car.
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dga57

Looks like a good fit to me!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

hellfirejim

Ok a little more serious now.  I was going to put the old front bumper back on the Pinto today.  When I started to do it I just couldn't....So i went back into the shed and pulled out a 1977 aluminum front bumper.  I know that everybody says they don't fit but being a hard head I figured I would try it myself.  Guess what?  they fit!!!   

I took off the big steel beam from the car and bolted the aluminum bumper to the front mounts with 4 5/16th bolts.  It is not going anywhere as the factory only used 6 bolts for a package easily weighing 40lbs.  I am not worried. 



This picture shows the only thing i added was a thick washer.



I just trimmed the fil panel and it was done.  I used the stock mounting points for the bumper and the flat pads for the bumper shocks.



This is the results.  The good thing is I have a 77 parts car that has very good bumpers.   :lol:Here is a link to the rest of the pictures.

http://s93.photobucket.com/albums/l66/hellfirejim/Front%20Bumper/

Peace
jim
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hellfirejim

Everybody stand back, presenting my new garage with the blue roof  :hypno:

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PCCA Pinto Number #385


hellfirejim

No that belongs to my chassis guy.  the engine if you noticed is a BOSS 429 style engine.  However it is 600 cu in and makes well over 1100 hp.  This is normally an 8 second car.  The last time it was at the track it tripped the 1/8 th mile timing lights with the BACK tires.  Yes it was skying.  it normally carries the front wheels but this new motor has a lot more torque......

But he is a Pinto guy and has been through many years.  It start as the usual 302 swap and then went through many variations of small blocks [some turbo] to the present big block ford.  The motor is a work of art.

So what do you know the last post was Pinto related...... :lol:

peace
jim
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PCCA Pinto Number #385


dga57

Looks like a nice cruise-in!  Does that Pinto belong to anyone from here?  I especially like the Rambler convertible and the Edsel.

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.