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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Restoring my 78 Sedan

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TIGGER

79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

discolives78

your car is looking very good!

Chuck


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

dave1987

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

As time passes, this is becoming a restoration/customization project. Honestly, I think it's coming along quite well!

One of my goals this year was to add a center console to the car. I could not find a Mustang II console that didn't cost a fortune, however I did find a Merkur in the salvage yard that I frequent, and it fits quite well!

I had to paint the bottom section of the console black from the existing gray, but that was easy to do with the aid of some friends at KC Auto Paint & Supply, who hooked me up with some SEM brand adhesion promoter and a satin black paint.

For mounting the console, I only need to use the rear bracket, since the Pinto's center hub sits lower in the back than it does in the front. For keeping the console straight and level, this left a 1.5" gap between the floor and the console base. To correct this, I used a section of extra carpet that 1A Auto included with my new carpet and cut a section to fit around the base of the console downward to the center hub, giving the finished assembly a stock appearance!

For the shift boot, I am currently using a generic replacement leather boot cover that my younger brother used in his Mercury Tracer a year ago. I cut the spring around the base of the boot out, then used hot glue to secure the boot to the inner lip of the console.

The greatest thing about this console is that I can still use stock center cubby that sits under the stereo! I did have to cut the console short about 1 1/4" from the front so it did not run into the dash bracket though.

And now some glory shots!

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

I put the new wheels on the car today and wow do they look good! I will take some pictures tomorrow as I've had a busy day today. I did come home to a nice letter from Ford though! I inquired about a "build sheet" of the car about a month and a half ago and they told me it would take 4-6 weeks to research the vehicle's past and get the info for me and sure enough, pretty much right on time!

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

I will be having the pair of wheels which has paint on the tires swapped with the tires I have on the rear of my car right now, and then have them all balanced. About $60 of work at les schwab. So that's $30 for the wheels and tires, $60 for dismount, mount and balancing all four, and about $18 in paint. $118 for new wheels and two new tires...Not bad!

There was SOME smearing on the "spokes" of one of the wheels, but I have ways of correcting that. Here's what they'll look like!

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

August 25th - Dad buys a set of steel styled wheels off a 78 Bobcat from the salvage yard as a b-day present for me.

August 28th - Polishing of rings and center caps is done.

September 6th - Painting of wheels beings, starting with removal of old paint.

September 9th - Painting of wheels is completed and drying process has begun.

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Here is a picture I recently had developed from a roll of film I was experimenting with in my 35mm Canon AE-1 Program.

I think the angle and the natural lighting shows off the car quite well, and masks quite a bit of the paint defects. It looks more like a classic photo than anything. (the white specs on the photo are dust from my dad's flatbed scanner).

I hope to have some time to post some new pictures I took of the car yesterday for my 2008 records.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

How often do we get to share pictures of interior lighting? Not to often I thinks...

The oil pressure gauge and ammeter lamps are very dim and I can't figure out why. I am going to see if I can get them wired up in parallel tomorrow.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

And here is some photos of the damage to the cowl area. My dad said that the hood came up once while while driving and snagged the cowl which caused it. I believe it has had damage done to it while my oldest brother owned the car and the hood was not aligned properly when he removed the head off the engine.

Just recently, I was out along the border of Boise helpping a friend with her stranded car and we were jump starting it. There was a lot of wind that day which caught the hood and pulled it backwards, misaligning it. When I closed the hood it rubbed a bit against the cowl but no catching against metal.

I have no clue as far as how to fix this. The fold which lines up with the centerfold on the hood is collapsed, and as you can see, the cowl isn't even mesh with the hood anymore.

I am planning to have it fixed when I have the car repainted, along with my passenger's side lower quarter panel where it is rusted through (not bad though).

Any ideas as far as how to fix this temporarily?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Thanks Chris! Glad to hear you are just into the restoration as me and others here are! I hope you will be posting lots of pictures too! :D

I snapped a few pictures today of the car. I just washed, quick waxed and detailed the car and finally got around to snatching the digital camera out of it's hiding place to share some photos with everyone.

Finally, here is a good shot of the interior!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

popbumper

Dave:

  This is SUCH a great documentary on your effort. My '76 wagon interior restoration is already two weeks deep, I am pulling the rest of the carpet tonite, and a good part of the dash is apart. Can't wait until mine looks like yours inside. REALLY nice job!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

dave1987

Replaced the cable with a Mustang II cable and it's working great. I'll try to take pictures tomorrow. I'll leave my camera on the counter to remind me!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Well the clutch cable on the car went out today. It was an NAPA one, identical to the motormite one sold by parts america distribution centers (namely schucks). This is the second one it has gone through in the past two years. This one didn't even last a year!

Does anyone know if the Beck/Arnley cable is any better?

The NAPA/motormite one pulled through the "arms/retainers" that hold the cable body outside of the firewall and the pedal sunk to the floor. I had to drive the car to my dad's house without using the clutch, which I felt very bad about putting the car though, but my insurance company canceled my towing package because I had the car towed three times in a seven year period.


Not only that buch I found another transmission leak, Now it's coming from where the extension body couples to the gearbox. Anyone know where I can get a gasket for this?


For now I am out of a vehicle since I don't get paid until the 20th. At least it isn't to far away from now and where I work is literally right down the road from my apartment complex!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

r4pinto

Interesting piece of history of your car. That'll be cool to see the first pics taken of your car to go with the current pics. Good to hear your transmission problem has been solved.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dave1987

Today I dropped the tranny for inspection. There isn't anything unusual as far as the gears and innards go, just very low on oil!

I believe I have found the source of the "oil drip" from my bell housing. Once I pulled the tranny down, the first thing I noticed was a gel like film coating the inside of the bell housing. I believe the tranny was low on oil due to the input shaft seal. I got it changed out today so we will see how it goes from there.

Since I had the tranny off I did a clutch inspection and ended up installing a new clutch assembly and pilot bearing while I was in there. The flywheel didn't seem to bad so I didn't have it turned.

12 hours of work and $112 in parts later, the car shifts nicer and it has a lot more get up and go now!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

ADaughen

Quote from: dave1987 on June 09, 2008, 03:16:38 AM

She won't give me the pictures yet, as she is saving them for my 21st birthday present in August, so you all will have to wait another 2 months for pictures of a Pinto, still under the original owner since 1978, straight from the dealership. Sorry guys. :P



you might be able to have her get a copy made of them... Even blow it up to a larger size...   ;) ;D
'78 Cruisin' Wagon

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: dave1987 on June 09, 2008, 03:16:38 AM
So yesterday mom pulled out her graduation photo album from 1978, when she got the car as a graduation present from her parents (my grandparents). There are photos of her with the car, my grandparents with the car, and even the salesman with the car! No plates on it, just brand spankin' new!

Mirror perfect aluminum bumpers, gutter trim, clear turn signal lenses and everything. Even the "PONY" decals on the fenders, forward of the doors!

She won't give me the pictures yet, as she is saving them for my 21st birthday present in August, so you all will have to wait another 2 months for pictures of a Pinto, still under the original owner since 1978, straight from the dealership. Sorry guys. :P

WOW! a very nice piece of history to go with the car.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

dave1987

So yesterday mom pulled out her graduation photo album from 1978, when she got the car as a graduation present from her parents (my grandparents). There are photos of her with the car, my grandparents with the car, and even the salesman with the car! No plates on it, just brand spankin' new!

Mirror perfect aluminum bumpers, gutter trim, clear turn signal lenses and everything. Even the "PONY" decals on the fenders, forward of the doors!

She won't give me the pictures yet, as she is saving them for my 21st birthday present in August, so you all will have to wait another 2 months for pictures of a Pinto, still under the original owner since 1978, straight from the dealership. Sorry guys. :P


As for restoration, the sport mirrors came out to dark to put on the car. They look like the color of the car when it's in the shade, but with the sun out it just looks goofy. I won't be putting them on the car until I have it repainted with new doors on the car, that way everything is the same shade.


Tomorrow I plan to drop the transmission and see if I can track down the source of my rough shifting and light clunking (which may be from the rear end). I will update when I find out though.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Today I went out to the salvage yard and pulled the sport mirrors off the Mustang II I pulled my steering wheel from a few months back.

I sanded them down and primered them today, hopefully the weather will permit me to paint them tomorrow.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

I promised pictures so here they are! It was dark out but I will take better pictures later.

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

I couldn't get ahold of a bypass regulator for the fuel system anywhere in town so I am putting the electric pump conversion on hold and I am currently back to the mechanical pump setup.

Today I installed a SunPro Black Face Tach II on the steering column. I haven't secured it with anything but a large hose clam for now, but tomorrow I plan to finish that.

I purchased a left motor mount today since the mustang II one I have in there is really worn and making an irritating knocking sound (no, it's not the motor itself). Hopefully I can get that in tomorrow.

I will really try to get some pictures of the car up tomorrow. I have yet to get a nice picture of the interior with the new MII steering wheel in, but now that I have a tach in I will be a little more motivated to get one up.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Today I started work on my electric fuel pump conversion. Why am I changing to an electric pump? Because I've gone through three different mechanical pumps in the past 12 months and this is my only vehicle. I need something reliable for when I drive down to Tremonton Utah this summer!

I wired the relay into the electrical system and mounted+wired in the inertia switch. I also installed a rocker switch to manually cut power to the pump while the key is in the forward accessory position.

The pump was mounted to a small plate made of 1/4" thick aluminum sheet metal, by means of a 1 1/2" conduit/pipe strap.

The plate was mounted to the undercarriage by means of the rear shock absorber bracket bolts, closest to the center of the car.


I have not connected the pump to the tank or carburetor quite yet though. I am going to drive around town for the next 4-5 days (until my next day off), to see if the location of the pump as it is will cause any issues with the suspension system of the car. I do not want to be driving around and hit a bump or dip in the road and have the pump crushed due to the rear axle. It should all clear just fine, but it's always a good idea to play it safe!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

It is possible. I do no know if the V6 tray batteries were larger or not though. We gave the vehicle specific information to Sears Auto Center when my dad and I got a new battery for the car after the engine rebuild and the new battery fits perfectly.

Judging by the appearance and condition of the original tray, I would say it was in there for at least 4-5 years before it was swapped out. That would be 1981 - 1982. I  also do not know if battery measurements were ever changed for the 78 2.3L 4cyl engine. And if they were, when.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

TIGGER

Maybe it is a V6 tray?  Just a guess......
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

dave1987

After taking it all down to bare metal with the aid of my dad's air compressor and pneumatic 90 degree die grinder with a wire wheel on it, I was able to remove all the surface rust. Thankfully that is all it was, and I was able to stop the degradation of the tray before it got worse!

I bent the tabs on the sides back up, which are used to keep the battery in place.

After removing all the paint and rust so it was nice and shinny raw steel, I used some automotive "rust repellent" primer, following up with some rust-oleum indoor/outdoor textured grey paint. Why textured? From my personal experience, textured paint is rougher and stands up to much more of a beating. I will later paint it black, but for now the grey will do, just for protection.

Almost as good as new!

One question though, has anyone else seen this larger battery tray in other Pintos? I found it kind of cool that I have a battery tray with identical punch outs, folds and size, aside from the length!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Today I did work on the battery tray. Turns out I didn't even end up using the original battery tray I found in my dad's attic!

Actually, the battery tray that is in the car is a replacement. I'm guessing that when my mom took the car in to have the battery replaced, at some point in time, that they changed the physical size of the battery to a longer one. The original battery tray is about 1/2" shorter than the one I have in the car at the moment.

Since the battery I use actually fits perfectly in the existing tray, I am going to leave it as it.

I, instead, removed the tray from the engine compartment and cleaned it up. But not without before and after pictures!

As you can see from the pictures below, the larger tray has seen better days. However, it is very salvageable!

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

I am very pleased with the new rear dash as it no longer bows up on the ends, and I can listen to my bass beat techno without hearing an annoying vibration the whole time! Instead I feel the vibrations. :P

EDIT: I found this picture of the bondo'd edge which was beveled to wedge into the rear window groove.

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dave1987

Cutting holes for the speakers was the easy part. I cut them with the Rotozip, 1/8" away from the template line, then used a drum sander to remove material down to the line. I continued to sand down the speaker holes until the speakers rested in their positions without any friction, test fitting after 1/16 of the material was sanded off around each hole.

After that it was time to paint it and put a layer of clear coat on it. The clear coat is matte, which is all I had available at the time, however I plan to use a gloss lacquer on it soon.

The dash is held down by the lip of the rear seat and the groove under the rear window. The screws which pass through the speaker grills and the speaker mounting holes go straight through under the back panel and are secured with bolts which help to hold the board down tight and reduce vibration from music with a lot of bass.

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!