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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Window Belts & Window Runs

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Scott Hamilton

Here's a look at the window runs I completed today. They look like new! I used a NOS run (on the right) for a pattern. The NOS window run cost me $85 from Green Sales & it is hard from being in its package for so many years you cannot install it.
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

WVBobcat77

I'm in for 2 sets, 1 for my 77 Bobcat project and 1 for my brother's 78 Pinto.
Bill in WV

1977 Bobcat
1978 Pinto - V6 Sedan

Scott Hamilton

I will be calling repops this Monday & giving the OK that these belts work great, even though I cannot test them on a 79-80 Wagon.

I will let everyone know soon on how to get yours.
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Scott Hamilton

The inner belt is a little smaller than the orignal but Jim & I believe they look great and fit well.

The outer is almost identical to the one FORD put on,

Check Jim's car out, look for more pictures I took in the 'Your Pintos' Section,
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Scott Hamilton

OK, we have tried them on a 76 sedan, Jim's car, & my 72 Runabout & they fit great.

Here is Jim bending the clips down so we can remove them after installation.
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Scott Hamilton

Quote from: 79panel on March 23, 2004, 06:28:51 PM
I'll buy a set and try them on my '80 Squire for you.

We will need to try this 'first run' set before they will mass manufacture them. Are you intrested in trying them on your wagon WITHOUT installing them? This might mean having you car in the garage until we can lock down the template & order some for you...  No guarentees, ...
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

turbopinto72

Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

wagonmaster

I'll buy a set and try them on my '80 Squire for you.
Brien - wagonmaster
'85 LTD LX
'85 LTD Squire wagon

dyceman

Gimme, gimmee, gimme. I am tired of hearing that whistle when I drive down the road. :)

John
73 Pinto - "Land Rocket"

crazyhorse

Nope, the 'StangII has frameless windows & longer doors. (I studied putting M-II body panels on a pinto wagon ... once)
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78pinto

cool, can't wait to get a set of those! Any word on prices? Nother question, will they fit a mustang II? That would be a money maker also!
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Scott Hamilton

Another short of the inner, as you can see they are NOT exactly as factory but VERY close & it looks like they will snap in!
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Scott Hamilton

Outer Belts
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Scott Hamilton

Here are a few pictures of the belts, the NOS Orginials are on the right,
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Scott Hamilton

OK, the box with the first set of window belts arived today,

I'm going to a friends house this weekend to test fit them to his 77 sedan & then to test fit them on my 72 runabout. I would like to send them out to someone that has a 79-80 wagon to test fit them on it as well, any takers?  You will need to have your old belt weatherstripping removed & place this new set close to the holes & see if it will fit without actually installing them. They are on loan from RePOPS factory.
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Scott Hamilton

OK,

I sent the company a set of 77 window belts from a friend here localy that is restoring his ride.

I have 2 outer & 1 inner NOS belts for a 72 I compared them to & they were the same.

I might need to ship the one's that are coming to someone with a latter year to compair. I will check them out with a 72 wagon(mine) & a 72 runabout at the body shop (mine) & then I'm going to drive to Jim's house (friend that gave up the old belts) & test fit them on his 77.

Do I need to test them on another year, if so what year?

Thanks for your effort here, I REALLY appreciate you looking into this!
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

wagonmaster


Scott,
The Ford Parts books (73/79) I have are a bit confusing regarding the belt w/strips. The inside belt is listed as the same for all years, all models. The outside belt numbers shown above are listed with a note that they are for single arm regulators only, but yet the applicable years shown are for 73 and later so these should probably be checked closely. In the Ford Illustration Catalog, the look of the outer belts is different in the illustration of the dual-arm and single-arm regulators, but these are drawings and may not mean much. On the runs, they do show different part numbers for the dual-arm and single-arm regulators with the production date break being 8/2/76. I have copies of the Ford Illus Catalog pages for the doors with the weatherstrips and regulator components, if you would like copies of them to share.
Brien - wagonmaster
'85 LTD LX
'85 LTD Squire wagon

turbopinto72

Scott, I would like to ( show off ) a pair of these on the Red Pangra at the Fabulous Fords Forever car Show Next Month. I think I could stirr up a bunch of sales ( and I need some badly) to get the car at Its 99% complete restored condition.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Scott Hamilton

I'm sending them a complete set of used window belts today as they requested.

I should have their  'sample' set by Friday I hope.


Thanks for the part numbers, I'm forwarding that to them as well..
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

wagonmaster

I will check my Ford parts books and see if there is any notes as to what the difference may be and let you know.
Brien - wagonmaster
'85 LTD LX
'85 LTD Squire wagon

wagonmaster

I believe it was in '77 they went to a single arm regulator that has a nylon guide at the end of a single arm. The earlier regulators used two arms, commonly referred to as scissor type regulator and used two channels on the bottom of the glass. I hope this helps.
Brien - wagonmaster
'85 LTD LX
'85 LTD Squire wagon

Scott Hamilton

Forgive me if I seem dumb on this, I'm very savvy on the 71-73 models, what is the difference with the window regulators?
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

wagonmaster

The difference in the runs may have to do with the difference in the regulators. The regulators changed from a dual arm to a single arm just about the timeframe noted for the runs.
Brien - wagonmaster
'85 LTD LX
'85 LTD Squire wagon

79Minto

I definately need a set of 79's

turbopinto72

 I have a good set of old 72's I can send and one 79 I can send.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

TIGGER

Well I was wrong.....  According to my Mitchel manual here are the p/n's

Pass side inside Belt - D1FZ6221456B
Pass side outside Belt- D6FZ6221452A

Driver side inside Belt - D1FZ6221457B
Driver side outside Belt- D6FZ6221453A


These are the same for all body styles 71-80.

Glass run 71-76 - D1FZ6221596C  

Same for both sides and all body styles.

Glass run 77-80 - D7FZ6221596B

Same for both sides and all body styles.

I am not sure what the difference is in the glass runs between the years?  The book is a little misleading so I hope I interpreted it correctly.
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

Scott Hamilton

Yea, let me know the part numbers if you can
So, there all the same though 80?


I will be test fitting a set next week at a friends house who is building his sweet Pinto.

Once we have a green light, they watn us to send in a complete set of old ones to verify again everything is good. When all that is done, we'll see when we can order some.

I will put up all the information shortly, stay tuned!
Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

dyceman

How much, and who do I send my money to for a couple of sets? I could probably use two sets of each now, maybe more in the future. As I am recently "single again" the price would have to be right, so let us all know, Scott.

John
73 Pinto - "Land Rocket"

TIGGER

That is great news!  I have collected some very nice originals but have not had time to install them.  Of course, new ones would be better!

According to my Mitchell book, the beltline and glass run weatherstripping are the same for wagon's, sedan's, and hatchback's.  All years use the same p/n's.  Let me know if you want me to list the Ford P/N's.
79 4cyl Wagon
73 Turbo HB
78 Cruising Wagon (sold 8/6/11)

Scott Hamilton

Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)